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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 12:39:47 GMT
Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:09:30 GMT
No, Unless he is indebted to foreign governments, and proof could be found of a treasonous act as a result. Which bears the death penalty btw. The best we can hope for is that he gets absolutely caned in the upcoming election. |
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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 13:23:54 GMT
No, Unless he is indebted to foreign governments, and proof could be found of a treasonous act as a result. Which bears the death penalty btw. The best we can hope for is that he gets absolutely caned in the upcoming election. He won't. Far too many good old gun slinging white middle lower class for that. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 13:40:53 GMT
No, Unless he is indebted to foreign governments, and proof could be found of a treasonous act as a result. Which bears the death penalty btw. The best we can hope for is that he gets absolutely caned in the upcoming election. He won't. Far too many good old gun slinging white middle lower class for that. What's that got to do with anything? Those "Good old gun slinging White middle lower class" voted for Barack Obama 11 years ago. He won't get absolutely caned in the upcoming election, for the simple fact that Joe Biden is the opposition. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:43:24 GMT
No, Unless he is indebted to foreign governments, and proof could be found of a treasonous act as a result. Which bears the death penalty btw. The best we can hope for is that he gets absolutely caned in the upcoming election. He won't. Far too many good old gun slinging white middle lower class for that. Remember though he lost the popular vote by 2,000,000 last time and there was a large decline in voter participation by minority groups. If the vote comes out and the Trump vote in 2016 swings by 5% then under the electoral college he might get caned and the GOP loses control of the Senate. Then they will go for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:45:08 GMT
He won't. Far too many good old gun slinging white middle lower class for that. What's that got to do with anything? Those "Good old gun slinging White middle lower class" voted for Barack Obama 11 years ago. He won't get absolutely caned in the upcoming election, for the simple fact that Joe Biden is the opposition. Did they? I haven't looked at the vote breakdown for 2008, do you have it? |
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Post by baggins on Sept 29, 2020 14:02:18 GMT
He won't. Far too many good old gun slinging white middle lower class for that. What's that got to do with anything? Those "Good old gun slinging White middle lower class" voted for Barack Obama 11 years ago. He won't get absolutely caned in the upcoming election, for the simple fact that Joe Biden is the opposition. Did they? And you know that do you? Nevermind, just jump bang in to what was supposed to have been a fun thread and debate. Christ alive, wish I'd never bothered. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 14:10:05 GMT
What's that got to do with anything? Those "Good old gun slinging White middle lower class" voted for Barack Obama 11 years ago. He won't get absolutely caned in the upcoming election, for the simple fact that Joe Biden is the opposition. Did they? I haven't looked at the vote breakdown for 2008, do you have it? Yes. It's pretty obvious. Obama won both the Electoral and popular vote by massive margins, also in states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana which hadn't voted Democrat for 40 odd years. Obama's total count of nearly 70,000,000 is the largest tally ever won by any Presidential candidate. That tells you all you need to know. This current election will only go one way, a huge landslide for Trump. Joe 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' Biden does not stand a chance. It looks likely that Baltimore will have a Black Republican in congress too, something that would of seemed unimaginable not so long ago. Kimberly Klacik is fantastic. A breath of fresh air. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 14:25:26 GMT
Did they? I haven't looked at the vote breakdown for 2008, do you have it? Yes. It's pretty obvious. Obama won both the Electoral and popular vote by massive margins, also in states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana which hadn't voted Democrat for 40 odd years. Obama's total count of nearly 70,000,000 is the largest tally ever won by any Presidential candidate. That tells you all you need to know. This current election will only go one way, a huge landslide for Trump. Joe 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' Biden does not stand a chance. It looks likely that Baltimore will have a Black Republican in congress too, something that would of seemed unimaginable not so long ago. Kimberly Klacik is fantastic. A breath of fresh air. So you don't have the breakdown. It's ok, I will try and look it up, the stats must be out there, given all the relative comparisons being made. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 14:34:07 GMT
200,000 covid deaths, massive tax evasion, loads of sexual misconduct accusations...
Trump won't go to jail as he is part of an establishment that is far more corrupt.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 14:35:22 GMT
Yes. It's pretty obvious. Obama won both the Electoral and popular vote by massive margins, also in states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana which hadn't voted Democrat for 40 odd years. Obama's total count of nearly 70,000,000 is the largest tally ever won by any Presidential candidate. That tells you all you need to know. This current election will only go one way, a huge landslide for Trump. Joe 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' Biden does not stand a chance. It looks likely that Baltimore will have a Black Republican in congress too, something that would of seemed unimaginable not so long ago. Kimberly Klacik is fantastic. A breath of fresh air. So you don't have the breakdown. It's ok, I will try and look it up, the stats must be out there, given all the relative comparisons being made. You don't need the breakdown. Obama had the biggest tally ever from a Presidential candidate in US history. The majority of the US population who voted, voted for him, White, Black, Hispanic or Asian "White middle lower class" people voted for him, they also voted for John McCain too, as did Black, Hispanics and Asians. He was also voted in for a 2nd term too!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 14:45:56 GMT
So, 2008
131M Votes
Of which
76.3% were white
12.1% Black
7.4% Hispanic
2.5% Asian
Of the total votes cast that was the lowest share for white voters ever.
Part of that was driven by black voters registered up by 5% over 2004.
This equated to 65% of the black population, equal in % terms to white registration.
In effect 2 million more black voters turned out in 2008 over 2004.
Of the white votes, 55% voted for McCain and 43% for Obama.
95% blacks voted for Obama.
In 2016, the black registration and participation fell by nearly 20% (C4 last night)
So it's clear, if Biden holds the plus 2,000,000 over Trump from 2016, and gets the black vote out....bingo.
I don't think Biden has done enough for Black and other minority groups in reality, but he has a month to right that.
But, conversely Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters) and disgusted white voters who are capable of using words of more than one syllable.
We shall see.
References:Pew Research Centre, Hispanic Trends, April 30 2009.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 15:07:24 GMT
But, conversely Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters) and disgusted white voters who are capable of using words of more than one syllable. What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 29, 2020 16:04:01 GMT
Did they? I haven't looked at the vote breakdown for 2008, do you have it? Yes. It's pretty obvious. Obama won both the Electoral and popular vote by massive margins, also in states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana which hadn't voted Democrat for 40 odd years. Obama's total count of nearly 70,000,000 is the largest tally ever won by any Presidential candidate. That tells you all you need to know. This current election will only go one way, a huge landslide for Trump. Joe 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' Biden does not stand a chance. It looks likely that Baltimore will have a Black Republican in congress too, something that would of seemed unimaginable not so long ago. Kimberly Klacik is fantastic. A breath of fresh air. Out of interest, and I have nothing to go on except the press coverage, why do you think Trump will get a landslide? Polls suggest a large Biden preference and Trump's approval rating is lower than Bush Sr and Carter. Is his campaigning really that good? Genuine question. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 16:09:01 GMT
But, conversely Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters) and disgusted white voters who are capable of using words of more than one syllable. What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 16:24:33 GMT
But, conversely Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters) and disgusted white voters who are capable of using words of more than one syllable. What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. Curious as to what you think of - Viktor Orban, Bolsonaro, Erdogan, Netanyahu, Duerte, Modi, Bin Salman, Putin etc.. Do you look up to these people? Do you see any opposition to them as weaklings? |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 16:47:34 GMT
What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. What the hell are you on about? You just refuse to listen to anybody or anything that doesn't share your warped view of the World. You've also contradicted yourself on many occasions. I only asked you why you think " Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters)"? And how you know that? I've already stated that I have no leaning either way in American politics, I am balanced. I do however call out fake narratives, which is what you spout constantly. |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 16:53:37 GMT
Yes. It's pretty obvious. Obama won both the Electoral and popular vote by massive margins, also in states like Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana which hadn't voted Democrat for 40 odd years. Obama's total count of nearly 70,000,000 is the largest tally ever won by any Presidential candidate. That tells you all you need to know. This current election will only go one way, a huge landslide for Trump. Joe 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' Biden does not stand a chance. It looks likely that Baltimore will have a Black Republican in congress too, something that would of seemed unimaginable not so long ago. Kimberly Klacik is fantastic. A breath of fresh air. Out of interest, and I have nothing to go on except the press coverage, why do you think Trump will get a landslide? Polls suggest a large Biden preference and Trump's approval rating is lower than Bush Sr and Carter. Is his campaigning really that good? Genuine question. I'm just going on what I see and hear. I know and speak to many Americans, of course the media coverage will make it look a certain way. Remember those polls suggested a Hilary Clinton preference 4 years ago too. I have followed certain Republican campaigns, I've already mentioned Kimberly Klaciks, and yes it is pretty good. Trump is a , but Biden is even more of a . |
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 29, 2020 17:03:04 GMT
What makes you say that? Any proof of that? From what I can see, Trump has got a lot of Black support, and as I said previously it looks as though Black Republicans are going to be successful in running for congress too. Kimberly Klacik in Baltimore especially, her running for congress would of been unheard of in years gone by. She has provided some of the best campaign video's I have seen for a very long time, full of facts which you simply cannot argue with. Joe Bidens, 'If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black' quote, was a deal breaker. he ain't got a chance in hell. Curious as to what you think of - Viktor Orban, Bolsonaro, Erdogan, Netanyahu, Duerte, Modi, Bin Salman, Putin etc.. Do you look up to these people? Do you see any opposition to them as weaklings? What the hell have they got to do with anything? Why would you be curious about what I think of them? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 17:06:21 GMT
To date Gastafari you have not provided a shred of evidence for your opinions. Instead you sound like a star struck kid, just like the one's in an adult body waving placards at Trump rallies whilst spreading Covid 19. The result of course is not guaranteed for either side, but a lot of us just hope the Americans consign this awful period, led by a , to history. What the hell are you on about? You just refuse to listen to anybody or anything that doesn't share your warped view of the World. You've also contradicted yourself on many occasions. I only asked you why you think " Trump has managed to royally water them off (black voters)"? And how you know that? I've already stated that I have no leaning either way in American politics, I am balanced. I do however call out fake narratives, which is what you spout constantly. Evidence Gastafari, Empirical and Referenced. I gave you an example. Now try it. Go on. |
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