Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 18:40:37 GMT
Why are you advertising tobacco products on a sports-orientated forum? Oh dear
|
|
|
Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 30, 2020 19:12:59 GMT
Why are you advertising tobacco products on a sports-orientated forum? To 'own' the libs, probably.
|
|
|
Post by oldgas on Sept 30, 2020 19:43:04 GMT
Why are you advertising tobacco products on a sports-orientated forum? Oh dear Sense of humour failure.
|
|
|
Post by Gastafari on Sept 30, 2020 20:41:45 GMT
If he gets in again, it will be because the American system voted him in, and because of the truely awful opposition. Nothing else.
As i've said before I am balanced, Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency of the USA, but he is.
Because i'm balanced, I will call out bullsh*t, fake news, false narratives and sheer propaganda from both sides.
Yesterday's debate wasn't great, in fact it was pretty bad, from both Trump & Biden, but at least Trump answered his questions, Joe Biden straight out refused to answer a lot of his.
The bit at the very end about "White Supremacy" which has been pounced upon by all the MSM outlets, is nonsense really, Yeah Trump could of nipped it in the bud, but he has already denounced and condemned it on multiple occasions, it was a cheap shot right at the end of the debate, that was only aimed at him. The same wasn't done for Biden, regarding Antifa, BLM and people from those and other groups on the opposite side who have caused violence and deaths across the country. Even Antifa's website redirects straight to Joe Bidens. But of course, that's not brought up. Imagine it was the other way round? Anyway this is how it went.......
Wallace: "Are you willing to condemn White supremacists and Militia Groups?
Trump: "Sure"
Wallace: "And they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we've seen in Portland?"
Trump: "Sure, i'm prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the Left Wing, not from the Right Wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace"
Wallace: "Then do it, Sir"
Biden: "Do it, Say it"
Trump: "What do you want me to call them? Give me a name"
Wallace: "White supremacists and Right Wing Militia's"
Biden: "Proud Boys"
Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But i'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the Left"
So of course the Media are running with this narrative as it fits their agenda, "DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS". Utter, utter garbage.
|
|
|
Post by stuartcampbell on Sept 30, 2020 20:54:50 GMT
😂😂😂😂 You are so blinkered as to be blind. For example Wallace to Trump "Will you condemn White Supremacist violence?" Trump "Sure" Wallace "Go on then" Trump "I say to the Proud Boys, Stand Down & Stand By" Now if that is not a dog whistle to the loonies, I don't know what is. And please, don't give a line of Whataboutery. Trump is a disgusting, tax dodging, lying clown. How anyone with a mere modicum of intelligence can defend him is beyond most decent people. I'm Blinkered? You just wrote loads of stuff that didn't happen, you even admitted you didn't watch it. I am not defending him, I said it wasn't a great debate. I am all about balance, which you clearly haven't got. Biden is a liar as well, he lied all the way through it. Yet again, i'm just calling out your propaganda, Oldie, that's all Biden is a liar? When did he lie? Any fact-checking website has the claims that are predominantly false to be coming from Trump...
|
|
|
Post by stuartcampbell on Sept 30, 2020 20:56:18 GMT
I watched all of it. It wasn't great, but it was the complete opposite of what you describe. The moderator, Chris Wallace turned it into a farce. Whichever side you're on, these debates need to be impartial, Wallace was the one who stopped any kind of discussion, let alone debate. Even though Wallace was a joke, Trump didn't need to do a lot, as Biden failed to answer the majority of the key questions Wallace asked, even though he was given the chance to without any interuptions, unlike Trump. Biden also just got personal, because he was unable to answer the majority of the key questions. From the telegraph, which is what is regarded as a Tory rag Farage said it too, Farage even said the debate was an even-draw. If even Trump's friends aren't claiming Trump won...
|
|
|
Post by Gastafari on Sept 30, 2020 21:21:24 GMT
I'm Blinkered? You just wrote loads of stuff that didn't happen, you even admitted you didn't watch it. I am not defending him, I said it wasn't a great debate. I am all about balance, which you clearly haven't got. Biden is a liar as well, he lied all the way through it. Yet again, i'm just calling out your propaganda, Oldie, that's all Biden is a liar? When did he lie? Any fact-checking website has the claims that are predominantly false to be coming from Trump... Yes. Biden lied about Manifestos, he lied about Health care plans, he lied about Coronavirus(Including American officials entering China), he lied about what he and Kamala Harris said about not trusting Scientists, he lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville i.e "fine people on both sides”, He lied about crime rates and violent Cities being "Republican", when 17 out of the top 20 are Democrat cities. Etc, etc, etc. Whether they were outright lies, or he just got confused, I don't know, but they are certainly untrue. I haven't said that Donald Trump hasn't lied. Again a bit of balance.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 21:40:09 GMT
If he gets in again, it will be because the American system voted him in, and because of the truely awful opposition. Nothing else. As i've said before I am balanced, Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency of the USA, but he is. Because i'm balanced, I will call out bullsh*t, fake news, false narratives and sheer propaganda from both sides. Yesterday's debate wasn't great, in fact it was pretty bad, from both Trump & Biden, but at least Trump answered his questions, Joe Biden straight out refused to answer a lot of his. The bit at the very end about "White Supremacy" which has been pounced upon by all the MSM outlets, is nonsense really, Yeah Trump could of nipped it in the bud, but he has already denounced and condemned it on multiple occasions, it was a cheap shot right at the end of the debate, that was only aimed at him. The same wasn't done for Biden, regarding Antifa, BLM and people from those and other groups on the opposite side who have caused violence and deaths across the country. Even Antifa's website redirects straight to Joe Bidens. But of course, that's not brought up. Imagine it was the other way round? Anyway this is how it went....... Wallace: "Are you willing to condemn White supremacists and Militia Groups? Trump: "Sure" Wallace: "And they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we've seen in Portland?" Trump: "Sure, i'm prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the Left Wing, not from the Right Wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace" Wallace: "Then do it, Sir" Biden: "Do it, Say it" Trump: "What do you want me to call them? Give me a name" Wallace: "White supremacists and Right Wing Militia's" Biden: "Proud Boys" Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But i'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the Left" So of course the Media are running with this narrative as it fits their agenda, "DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS". Utter, utter garbage. The BBC reported that they both refused to condemn the violent acts committed by their “side” which sounds highly believable to me. I don’t think Trump’s reaction can be said to have condemned white supremacists, but I would also be very surprised if Biden gave Antifa a bollocking. And that’s the sad thing about the pair of them: neither of them can be the adult in the room because they are both complicit in a race to the bottom and producing a pathetic spectacle of modern statesmanship. Is this really the best America has to offer?
|
|
|
Post by Icegas on Sept 30, 2020 23:45:39 GMT
We will see in a month my friend. Don't call me that. Ok.
|
|
|
Post by Icegas on Sept 30, 2020 23:53:11 GMT
It's the same as being called and labelled as some kind of " is't " just because you have different views to the Libtards of today. I've got no problem with liberation's or someone thinking left wing, I'm nationally that way myself.My only problem is how the modern day lefties way of reacting to someone that doesn't agree with them. And that's why people like me drop the Libtard bomb in from time to time.👍 👎👎👎 I didn't expect any other response apart from that from " certain posters" to be honest.👍
|
|
|
Post by stuartcampbell on Oct 1, 2020 0:32:15 GMT
If he gets in again, it will be because the American system voted him in, and because of the truely awful opposition. Nothing else. As i've said before I am balanced, Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency of the USA, but he is. Because i'm balanced, I will call out bullsh*t, fake news, false narratives and sheer propaganda from both sides. Yesterday's debate wasn't great, in fact it was pretty bad, from both Trump & Biden, but at least Trump answered his questions, Joe Biden straight out refused to answer a lot of his. The bit at the very end about "White Supremacy" which has been pounced upon by all the MSM outlets, is nonsense really, Yeah Trump could of nipped it in the bud, but he has already denounced and condemned it on multiple occasions, it was a cheap shot right at the end of the debate, that was only aimed at him. The same wasn't done for Biden, regarding Antifa, BLM and people from those and other groups on the opposite side who have caused violence and deaths across the country. Even Antifa's website redirects straight to Joe Bidens. But of course, that's not brought up. Imagine it was the other way round? Anyway this is how it went....... Wallace: "Are you willing to condemn White supremacists and Militia Groups? Trump: "Sure" Wallace: "And they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we've seen in Portland?" Trump: "Sure, i'm prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the Left Wing, not from the Right Wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace" Wallace: "Then do it, Sir" Biden: "Do it, Say it" Trump: "What do you want me to call them? Give me a name" Wallace: "White supremacists and Right Wing Militia's" Biden: "Proud Boys" Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But i'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the Left" So of course the Media are running with this narrative as it fits their agenda, "DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS". Utter, utter garbage. I truly find this point of view astounding. He's already done it multiple times? Didn't our country openly criticise Jeremy Corbyn for years for supposedly refusing to condemn Hamas and the IRA, among others, when he has condemned the violent actions they've taken on multiple occasions. How is this any different? Biden, on the other hand, doesn't criticise peaceful protesting, but has openly criticised violence and riots. As Biden explained, Antifa is not "a domestic terrorist organisation," it's an idea (which has been linked to far less deaths i.e. 0 or 1 in the past few years than far-right extremists), this isn't some random claim made by Biden; it's a claim literally put forward by the FBI director...Trump's FBI Director might I add. Found here: www.independent.co.uk/wires/us/fbi-director-says-antifa-ideology-not-organization-b471484.htmlThe website comment is also laughable. Look up "Iamarussianspy.com" and look who it redirects to. Trump will blatantly barely criticise any neo-fascist group, like the Proud Boys, and will simply try and redirect the criticism towards the far-left. I wonder what people would say you were if you were an anti-anti-fascist?...
|
|
|
Post by stuartcampbell on Oct 1, 2020 0:33:24 GMT
Biden is a liar? When did he lie? Any fact-checking website has the claims that are predominantly false to be coming from Trump... Yes. Biden lied about Manifestos, he lied about Health care plans, he lied about Coronavirus(Including American officials entering China), he lied about what he and Kamala Harris said about not trusting Scientists, he lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville i.e "fine people on both sides”, He lied about crime rates and violent Cities being "Republican", when 17 out of the top 20 are Democrat cities. Etc, etc, etc. Whether they were outright lies, or he just got confused, I don't know, but they are certainly untrue. I haven't said that Donald Trump hasn't lied. Again a bit of balance. You've just ranted about how Biden is a liar, and to all extents and purposes Trump has lied more. It's quite a strange position to take. Also, sources? Specific examples? I'll need a bit more than "he lied about crime rates."
|
|
|
Post by stuartcampbell on Oct 1, 2020 0:45:24 GMT
It's an extreme right-wing word designed to 'trigger the libs'... if you say that you find it repulsive, then 'It's political correctness gone mad'. It's the same as being called and labelled as some kind of " is't " just because you have different views to the Libtards of today. I've got no problem with liberation's or someone thinking left wing, I'm nationally that way myself.My only problem is how the modern day lefties way of reacting to someone that doesn't agree with them. And that's why people like me drop the Libtard bomb in from time to time.👍 "Libtard"? Icegas, ignoring obvious points made by Stuart, how old are you again? The type of lefties you're describing are likely juxtaposed to liberalism. Many "leftists" (as they are known) despise liberals just as much as those on the right, they see liberals as capable of acknowledging that social issues like systemic racism exist; but refusing to do anything about it. Many despise Barack Obama, not only for many of the abhorrent policies he conducted, but because he campaigned on the premise of "White House needs to change" and almost nothing did. This also isn't an issue that's limited to the left. Many political commentators on the right thrive off of this stuff, yes of course there are the likes of Owen Jones on the left who could certainly be more understanding of opposing views; however the right, or at least those that are young in the right, champion the likes of Ben Shapiro who has said "you cannot be both Jewish and left-wing" and has also said "the only reason you should be friends with someone on the left is that you can eventually exploit them and humiliate them in a political debate," I may be paraphrasing to an extent, but these were not intended for comedic purposes. He meant these sincerely. I would recommend the video of his interview with Andrew Neil as a clear indicator: in response to Neil's usual devil's advocate interviewing style, which I personally am and have always been a massive fan of; Shapiro accuses Neil of being on the left, saying "...is a way to make a quick buck on BBC off the fact that I'm popular and no one's ever heard of you." I could also point to the likes of Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins...and you know...most who call people "libtards" aren't on track for much civil discourse at the best of times.
|
|
|
Post by baggins on Oct 1, 2020 5:12:24 GMT
Why are you advertising tobacco products on a sports-orientated forum? It's the artwork I'm interested in, not so much the product itself.
|
|
|
Post by William Wilson on Oct 1, 2020 6:47:02 GMT
If he gets in again, it will be because the American system voted him in, and because of the truely awful opposition. Nothing else. As i've said before I am balanced, Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency of the USA, but he is. Because i'm balanced, I will call out bullsh*t, fake news, false narratives and sheer propaganda from both sides. Yesterday's debate wasn't great, in fact it was pretty bad, from both Trump & Biden, but at least Trump answered his questions, Joe Biden straight out refused to answer a lot of his. The bit at the very end about "White Supremacy" which has been pounced upon by all the MSM outlets, is nonsense really, Yeah Trump could of nipped it in the bud, but he has already denounced and condemned it on multiple occasions, it was a cheap shot right at the end of the debate, that was only aimed at him. The same wasn't done for Biden, regarding Antifa, BLM and people from those and other groups on the opposite side who have caused violence and deaths across the country. Even Antifa's website redirects straight to Joe Bidens. But of course, that's not brought up. Imagine it was the other way round? Anyway this is how it went....... Wallace: "Are you willing to condemn White supremacists and Militia Groups? Trump: "Sure" Wallace: "And they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we've seen in Portland?" Trump: "Sure, i'm prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the Left Wing, not from the Right Wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace" Wallace: "Then do it, Sir" Biden: "Do it, Say it" Trump: "What do you want me to call them? Give me a name" Wallace: "White supremacists and Right Wing Militia's" Biden: "Proud Boys" Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But i'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the Left" So of course the Media are running with this narrative as it fits their agenda, "DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS". Utter, utter garbage. The BBC reported that they both refused to condemn the violent acts committed by their “side” which sounds highly believable to me. I don’t think Trump’s reaction can be said to have condemned white supremacists, but I would also be very surprised if Biden gave Antifa a bollocking. And that’s the sad thing about the pair of them: neither of them can be the adult in the room because they are both complicit in a race to the bottom and producing a pathetic spectacle of modern statesmanship. Is this really the best America has to offer? I thought, Trump v Clinton was bad enough. But is it so very much worse than our own House of Commons at times? Like animals baying at the moon.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 8:21:26 GMT
Yes. Biden lied about Manifestos, he lied about Health care plans, he lied about Coronavirus(Including American officials entering China), he lied about what he and Kamala Harris said about not trusting Scientists, he lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville i.e "fine people on both sides”, He lied about crime rates and violent Cities being "Republican", when 17 out of the top 20 are Democrat cities. Etc, etc, etc. Whether they were outright lies, or he just got confused, I don't know, but they are certainly untrue. I haven't said that Donald Trump hasn't lied. Again a bit of balance. You've just ranted about how Biden is a liar, and to all extents and purposes Trump has lied more. It's quite a strange position to take. Also, sources? Specific examples? I'll need a bit more than "he lied about crime rates." That's the thing with Gastafari, he says it, so it must be true. But, never ever,links to any specific evidence that would substantiate his remarks.
|
|
|
Post by Gastafari on Oct 1, 2020 9:04:23 GMT
Yes. Biden lied about Manifestos, he lied about Health care plans, he lied about Coronavirus(Including American officials entering China), he lied about what he and Kamala Harris said about not trusting Scientists, he lied about what Trump said regarding Charlottesville i.e "fine people on both sides”, He lied about crime rates and violent Cities being "Republican", when 17 out of the top 20 are Democrat cities. Etc, etc, etc. Whether they were outright lies, or he just got confused, I don't know, but they are certainly untrue. I haven't said that Donald Trump hasn't lied. Again a bit of balance. You've just ranted about how Biden is a liar, and to all extents and purposes Trump has lied more. It's quite a strange position to take. Also, sources? Specific examples? I'll need a bit more than "he lied about crime rates." I haven't ranted at all. It isn't a strange position to take either. It's a perfectly normal one to take, all the vitriol is towards Donald Trump, as usual their hatred for the man overtakes them so much, that they completely ignore everything they apparently stand for in their warped view of the World, all for their hatred of him. Why is that? It really is bizarre. They completely ignore and have nothing to say about Joe Bidens quotes about "Racial Jungles", "Predators", "Indian Americans", "Poor Kids are just as bright as White Kids", "If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black" and the best one of all, Joe Biden read a eulogy at Robert Byrd's funeral, do you know who Robert Byrd was? He was a Democrat Ku Klux Klan member who recruited 100's of members in West Virginia. The Media don't tell you this, not many people know about it, you have to do a bit of research to find out these things. Imagine it was Donald Trump? My source is I actually watched the debate, one of the only ones commenting on this thread who actually did. Biden lied more than once about "Crime rates", he stated that crime had gone up in Republican Cities, which is not true, he also stated that there was less violent crime during his time as Vice President as there is today, which again is a complete lie. C'mon, I shouldn't have to do this for you, all the information is readily available. Once again it's all about balance, I do find it extremely strange, how peoples supposed morals completely go out the window, just because they hate Donald Trump. Donald Trump bad, Joe Biden good. C'mon
|
|
|
Post by Gastafari on Oct 1, 2020 9:38:56 GMT
You've just ranted about how Biden is a liar, and to all extents and purposes Trump has lied more. It's quite a strange position to take. Also, sources? Specific examples? I'll need a bit more than "he lied about crime rates." That's the thing with Gastafari, he says it, so it must be true. But, never ever,links to any specific evidence that would substantiate his remarks. That's extremely rich coming from you. As I keep saying, let's have some balance. I have said that Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency, I have said that it was a poor debate from him, I've also called him a too. It doesn't work the other way though, yourself Oldie and others will only criticise one side and not the other regardless. Just like you calling people in combat uniforms with automatic weapons "Trump Thugs", yet refuse to call the NFAC "thugs" for doing the exact same thing. You keep coming out with nonsense, I've come back with evidence and data from sources whether it be academic scholars, the NAACP, Pew Research etc, but you just don't want to acknowledge it. Also, when I stated that the Welfare state was a major factor and source you tried to poo poo it, yet in a lengthy paragraph later on, you actually completely agreed with me. You have proven to be contradictory on more than a few occasions. It really is strange, considering your warped view on issues, why you seem to completely disregard them and throw them out the window, i.e this thread.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 10:04:09 GMT
You've just ranted about how Biden is a liar, and to all extents and purposes Trump has lied more. It's quite a strange position to take. Also, sources? Specific examples? I'll need a bit more than "he lied about crime rates." I haven't ranted at all. It isn't a strange position to take either. It's a perfectly normal one to take, all the vitriol is towards Donald Trump, as usual their hatred for the man overtakes them so much, that they completely ignore everything they apparently stand for in their warped view of the World, all for their hatred of him. Why is that? It really is bizarre. They completely ignore and have nothing to say about Joe Bidens quotes about "Racial Jungles", "Predators", "Indian Americans", "Poor Kids are just as bright as White Kids", "If you don't vote for me, you ain't Black" and the best one of all, Joe Biden read a eulogy at Robert Byrd's funeral, do you know who Robert Byrd was? He was a Democrat Ku Klux Klan member who recruited 100's of members in West Virginia. The Media don't tell you this, not many people know about it, you have to do a bit of research to find out these things. Imagine it was Donald Trump? My source is I actually watched the debate, one of the only ones commenting on this thread who actually did. Biden lied more than once about "Crime rates", he stated that crime had gone up in Republican Cities, which is not true, he also stated that there was less violent crime during his time as Vice President as there is today, which again is a complete lie. C'mon, I shouldn't have to do this for you, all the information is readily available. Once again it's all about balance, I do find it extremely strange, how peoples supposed morals completely go out the window, just because they hate Donald Trump. Donald Trump bad, Joe Biden good. C'mon You keep attacking people and also have the vain opinion that only what you say is factually correct & anything else is fake news. Everyone is a bit guilty of it, thinking their opinion is the correct, but most have a bit of nuance in their arguments. But to say you watched the whole debate so only your opinion is valid is bizarre and makes it impossible for people to take you seriously. Total arrogance.
|
|
|
Post by Gastafari on Oct 1, 2020 10:07:27 GMT
If he gets in again, it will be because the American system voted him in, and because of the truely awful opposition. Nothing else. As i've said before I am balanced, Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency of the USA, but he is. Because i'm balanced, I will call out bullsh*t, fake news, false narratives and sheer propaganda from both sides. Yesterday's debate wasn't great, in fact it was pretty bad, from both Trump & Biden, but at least Trump answered his questions, Joe Biden straight out refused to answer a lot of his. The bit at the very end about "White Supremacy" which has been pounced upon by all the MSM outlets, is nonsense really, Yeah Trump could of nipped it in the bud, but he has already denounced and condemned it on multiple occasions, it was a cheap shot right at the end of the debate, that was only aimed at him. The same wasn't done for Biden, regarding Antifa, BLM and people from those and other groups on the opposite side who have caused violence and deaths across the country. Even Antifa's website redirects straight to Joe Bidens. But of course, that's not brought up. Imagine it was the other way round? Anyway this is how it went....... Wallace: "Are you willing to condemn White supremacists and Militia Groups? Trump: "Sure" Wallace: "And they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we've seen in Portland?" Trump: "Sure, i'm prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the Left Wing, not from the Right Wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace" Wallace: "Then do it, Sir" Biden: "Do it, Say it" Trump: "What do you want me to call them? Give me a name" Wallace: "White supremacists and Right Wing Militia's" Biden: "Proud Boys" Trump: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But i'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about Antifa and the Left" So of course the Media are running with this narrative as it fits their agenda, "DONALD TRUMP REFUSES TO CONDEMN WHITE SUPREMACISTS". Utter, utter garbage. I truly find this point of view astounding. He's already done it multiple times? Didn't our country openly criticise Jeremy Corbyn for years for supposedly refusing to condemn Hamas and the IRA, among others, when he has condemned the violent actions they've taken on multiple occasions. How is this any different? Biden, on the other hand, doesn't criticise peaceful protesting, but has openly criticised violence and riots. As Biden explained, Antifa is not "a domestic terrorist organisation," it's an idea (which has been linked to far less deaths i.e. 0 or 1 in the past few years than far-right extremists), this isn't some random claim made by Biden; it's a claim literally put forward by the FBI director...Trump's FBI Director might I add. Found here: www.independent.co.uk/wires/us/fbi-director-says-antifa-ideology-not-organization-b471484.htmlThe website comment is also laughable. Look up "Iamarussianspy.com" and look who it redirects to. Trump will blatantly barely criticise any neo-fascist group, like the Proud Boys, and will simply try and redirect the criticism towards the far-left. I wonder what people would say you were if you were an anti-anti-fascist?... What was it Oldie was saying, yesterday about "Whataboutery" ringing loud? It's ok to do it as long as it's your way Trump has denounced it many times, again all readily available, i'll post one example just in case What's Jeremy Corbyn got to do with anything? That said I thought the treatment towards Corbyn was disgraceful, so not much difference at all. Violence and chaos in the Cities and Towns across the US have been caused by Antifa and BLM activists, you cannot get away from those facts. To just say that Antifa is an idea, ideology or movement so they should get away with it is nonsense. Once again, for the umpteenth time. Let's have some balance.
|
|