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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 0:18:40 GMT
Let's take it one by one. Do you believe Trump has, through his policies, been good for the American economy? Has he done good things for the American Economy? Sure. Has he been a perfect president? No. For example, Under Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average and Nasdaq composite have reached historical highs while at the same time unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics have hit historical lows. He expanded spending on historical Black colleges, He want's to do something about unskilled people in inner Cities, too. Things that I feel are certainly good. Interesting, to be fair to Trump the good stuff that he has achieved isn’t talked about at all. Is it a positive that he was the first sitting president to meet with the head of North Korea to try and broker peace? The media paints the narrative as completely one sided, your examples suggest there is more nuance and complexity that warrants highlighting |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 1:30:00 GMT
Has he done good things for the American Economy? Sure. Has he been a perfect president? No. For example, Under Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average and Nasdaq composite have reached historical highs while at the same time unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics have hit historical lows. He expanded spending on historical Black colleges, He want's to do something about unskilled people in inner Cities, too. Things that I feel are certainly good. Interesting, to be fair to Trump the good stuff that he has achieved isn’t talked about at all. Is it a positive that he was the first sitting president to meet with the head of North Korea to try and broker peace? The media paints the narrative as completely one sided, your examples suggest there is more nuance and complexity that warrants highlighting You said you were interested in the economics previously. Then, to repeat As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 7:13:15 GMT
Interesting, to be fair to Trump the good stuff that he has achieved isn’t talked about at all. Is it a positive that he was the first sitting president to meet with the head of North Korea to try and broker peace? The media paints the narrative as completely one sided, your examples suggest there is more nuance and complexity that warrants highlighting You said you were interested in the economics previously. Then, to repeat As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? Careful with this one oldie, he was trying to use per capita income to claim black people were well off in America. Not sure he's heard of median income, which is much more relevant. The stats in the article below are shocking. The US middle & lower classes are worse off compared to most other OECD counties. www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 8:03:48 GMT
You said you were interested in the economics previously. Then, to repeat As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? Careful with this one oldie, he was trying to use per capita income to claim black people were well off in America. Not sure he's heard of median income, which is much more relevant. The stats in the article below are shocking. The US middle & lower classes are worse off compared to most other OECD counties. www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/Yes I know, but I have already broken that down for him on the other thread. What I am really interested in is if these guys believe that taking on huge amounts of national is economically advisable in an already growing economy. |
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Post by snuffzler on Oct 3, 2020 10:44:35 GMT
Prison? What for? Lol.
I like Trump and wish him all the best.
He’s not perfect mind you. I’d prefer something a little more radical and less controlled by his buddies in “the beacon of hope in Middle East”, but I need to keep realistic and be thankful that he isn’t Hilary or worse.
Trump might just drag the US out from the fires of hell tbh.
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Post by baggins on Oct 3, 2020 10:52:52 GMT
Prison? What for? Lol. I like Trump and wish him all the best. He’s not perfect mind you. I’d prefer something a little more radical and less controlled by his buddies in “the beacon of hope in Middle East”, but I need to keep realistic and be thankful that he isn’t Hilary or worse. Trump might just drag the US out from the fires of hell tbh. Fires of hell? |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 3, 2020 11:05:38 GMT
Has he done good things for the American Economy? Sure. Has he been a perfect president? No. For example, Under Trump, the Dow Jones Industrial Average and Nasdaq composite have reached historical highs while at the same time unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics have hit historical lows. He expanded spending on historical Black colleges, He want's to do something about unskilled people in inner Cities, too. Things that I feel are certainly good. As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? On paper, then no it isn't wise economics, but people seem to forget about a pandemic that has effected the majority of people in one way or another. The main reason why the US was an already growing economy is because it was coming out of a Great Recession, naturally it was going to grow, it couldn't really get any worse. It's like comparing Apples with Oranges As i've already said Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency. He's a Billionaire businessman, not a politician, although he clearly has done some good things for the economy while president. |
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Post by snuffzler on Oct 3, 2020 11:08:42 GMT
Yeah, the current state of things, especially in the US. |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 3, 2020 11:10:41 GMT
You said you were interested in the economics previously. Then, to repeat As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? Careful with this one oldie, he was trying to use per capita income to claim black people were well off in America. Not sure he's heard of median income, which is much more relevant. The stats in the article below are shocking. The US middle & lower classes are worse off compared to most other OECD counties. www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/02/27/examining-the-black-white-wealth-gap/I didn't say that at all. Just like Oldie, you seem to be getting confused and completely making stuff up. I didn't say that Black people were well off in America, I said that the majority actually fall into the "Middle Class" bracket, which I also said was incredibly vague as to what the "Middle Class" is. I also know and stated that Blacks are lowest in terms of Median income, White's are not top of the Median income table either. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 3, 2020 11:14:08 GMT
As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? On paper, then no it isn't wise economics, but people seem to forget about a pandemic that has effected the majority of people in one way or another. The main reason why the US was an already growing economy is because it was coming out of a Great Recession, naturally it was going to grow, it couldn't really get any worse. It's like comparing Apples with Oranges As i've already said Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency. He's a Billionaire businessman, not a politician, although he clearly has done some good things for the economy while president. Isn't there some doubt over his wealth at the moment? |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 3, 2020 11:15:11 GMT
As I said previously, is it wise Economics to inflate the economy by pumping $1trillion of debt into an already growing economy? On paper, then no it isn't wise economics, but people seem to forget about a pandemic that has effected the majority of people in one way or another. The main reason why the US was an already growing economy is because it was coming out of a Great Recession, naturally it was going to grow, it couldn't really get any worse. It's like comparing Apples with Oranges As i've already said Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency. He's a Billionaire businessman, not a politician, although he clearly has done some good things for the economy while president. Whilst he may have done some good things internally his impact externally has been abysmal . His Leadership of Western democracies, ratcheting up of world tensions, trashing old alliances and abdicating any leadership on climate change has been appalling, he has set the World back 25 years. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 3, 2020 11:16:14 GMT
Prison? What for? Lol. I like Trump and wish him all the best. He’s not perfect mind you. I’d prefer something a little more radical and less controlled by his buddies in “the beacon of hope in Middle East”, but I need to keep realistic and be thankful that he isn’t Hilary or worse. Trump might just drag the US out from the fires of hell tbh. More radical than tearing immigrant kids from their families and keeping them in those god awful detention centres? What more radical steps would you like to see taken? This ought to be interesting. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 3, 2020 11:17:14 GMT
On paper, then no it isn't wise economics, but people seem to forget about a pandemic that has effected the majority of people in one way or another. The main reason why the US was an already growing economy is because it was coming out of a Great Recession, naturally it was going to grow, it couldn't really get any worse. It's like comparing Apples with Oranges As i've already said Trump shouldn't be anywhere near the presidency. He's a Billionaire businessman, not a politician, although he clearly has done some good things for the economy while president. Whilst he may have done some good things internally his impact externally has been abysmal . His Leadership of Western democracies, ratcheting up of world tensions, trashing old alliances and abdicating any leadership on climate change has been appalling, he has set the World back 25 years. Don't think he's handled their immigration particularly well either. |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 3, 2020 11:23:46 GMT
Prison? What for? Lol. I like Trump and wish him all the best. He’s not perfect mind you. I’d prefer something a little more radical and less controlled by his buddies in “the beacon of hope in Middle East”, but I need to keep realistic and be thankful that he isn’t Hilary or worse. Trump might just drag the US out from the fires of hell tbh. More radical than tearing immigrant kids from their families and keeping them in those god awful detention centres? What more radical steps would you like to see taken? This ought to be interesting. Barack Obama's administration built them. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 3, 2020 11:31:20 GMT
More radical than tearing immigrant kids from their families and keeping them in those god awful detention centres? What more radical steps would you like to see taken? This ought to be interesting. Barack Obama's administration built them. So what? |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 3, 2020 11:39:19 GMT
Barack Obama's administration built them. So what? So don't use it as a stick to beat Trump with. Barack Obama built them, Joe Biden was also VP. |
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Post by baggins on Oct 3, 2020 11:40:29 GMT
More radical than tearing immigrant kids from their families and keeping them in those god awful detention centres? What more radical steps would you like to see taken? This ought to be interesting. Barack Obama's administration built them. Did he use them? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 3, 2020 11:42:08 GMT
So don't use it as a stick to beat Trump with. Barack Obama built them, Joe Biden was also VP. His administration is doing it are they not? You can't be suggesting that Obama has the power to shut them down or change the abhorrent things that are happening there TODAY? If not, do enlighten us, who DOES have that power? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 3, 2020 11:46:47 GMT
Did the wall get built and did Mexico pay for it?
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 3, 2020 11:48:28 GMT
Barack Obama's administration built them. Did he use them? Yes |
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