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Post by Gassy on Oct 6, 2020 21:47:06 GMT
Strange because the `bbc website said Oxford won on penalties. So they won, but we never lost how strange. It's the stupid rules of the competition and you don't seem to get it. The match finished as a draw. Ergo, we didn't lose. Oxford won the penalty shootout and thus won a bonus point. They did not win the match. If we lost in 90 minutes its a loss and Ben out. If we lost on penalties then its a loss. If we won on penalties then it's a draw. If we won in 90 minutes then it doesn't count as it's the EFL cup. |
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Post by Gasshole on Oct 6, 2020 22:03:33 GMT
Are we unbeaten in 2 ? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:04:10 GMT
So historically many of you have said it would not be so bad having BG if you could see progress on the pitch / performances. Based on that, can we take the positives from Saturday and tonight that we are now starting to move in the right direction in finding our identity or are you still of the opinion that we are still poor? I have had mixed opinions during the start of this season, I wanted BG to be given more time and I also came to a point where I wanted us to make a change. While I argued it wasn’t completely fair to judge BG after 3 poor games I also have to be of the opinion that we can’t say all is well after 2 good performances. We have to show some consistency now and really take the positives from the last 2 games and keep showing signs of progress before we can say wether it will work out or not A solitary win in what, 7 games? Yeah, we’re an unstoppable juggernaut now |
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Post by justin blue on Oct 6, 2020 22:07:08 GMT
Are we unbeaten in 2 ? Asking for a friend. Do you mean in this competition or the last two games? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:08:56 GMT
It's the stupid rules of the competition and you don't seem to get it. The match finished as a draw. Ergo, we didn't lose. Oxford won the penalty shootout and thus won a bonus point. They did not win the match. If we lost in 90 minutes its a loss and Ben out. If we lost on penalties then its a loss. If we won on penalties then it's a draw. If we won in 90 minutes then it doesn't count as it's the EFL cup. To be fair it’s the same on both sides isn’t it? Mental gymnastics being done as to why we should be sh** scared of Sunderland and why Garner should get the boot if we lose to Oxford in the LDV. As I said earlier, he must have been told his job is safe whatever because if it wasn’t wouldnt he have played most of Saturday’s line up to build on the Northampton result? If he’s going to be here for a while then winning some games consistently would be nice. He’ll struggle to rack up 4 wins from his first ten imo and I personally would be showing him the door if he fails to. |
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Post by rosssgb on Oct 6, 2020 22:22:37 GMT
Garnish OUT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:25:20 GMT
The real positive about tonight is that some young players got experience and played very well.
For me wael and garner are backing youth and that's no bad thing.
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Post by torontogaz on Oct 6, 2020 22:28:31 GMT
I thought we were the better team until the penalty miss and/or the stoppage for the assistant. Should have won. UTG
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Post by gasandelectricity on Oct 6, 2020 22:30:07 GMT
So historically many of you have said it would not be so bad having BG if you could see progress on the pitch / performances. Based on that, can we take the positives from Saturday and tonight that we are now starting to move in the right direction in finding our identity or are you still of the opinion that we are still poor? Yes and no. I didn’t think we looked that good Saturday given strength of the opposition and context of the match. Northampton are a side we’d expect to be able to beat else we’d be in big trouble. Tonight, I was much more pleased with our performance given we were fielding a weaker team on paper. That said, it’s not a game I’m too fussed about really. Looking at the first ten games of the season I’d be happy to have accepted playing well and not returning much against Donnie, Sunderland and Ipswich. However, I was extremely disappointed with the manner of play in all three matches. From Northampton on it is about business here on in and I expect results now. One league win against Northampton and an EFL Trophy draw against Oxford isn’t going to change my opinion on BG. But at least my girlfriends ears will be getting a rest from my thoughts on BG being in charge of Rovers for a little while. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 6, 2020 23:41:14 GMT
So historically many of you have said it would not be so bad having BG if you could see progress on the pitch / performances. Based on that, can we take the positives from Saturday and tonight that we are now starting to move in the right direction in finding our identity or are you still of the opinion that we are still poor? Yes and no. I didn’t think we looked that good Saturday given strength of the opposition and context of the match. Northampton are a side we’d expect to be able to beat else we’d be in big trouble. Tonight, I was much more pleased with our performance given we were fielding a weaker team on paper. That said, it’s not a game I’m too fussed about really. Looking at the first ten games of the season I’d be happy to have accepted playing well and not returning much against Donnie, Sunderland and Ipswich. However, I was extremely disappointed with the manner of play in all three matches. From Northampton on it is about business here on in and I expect results now. One league win against Northampton and an EFL Trophy draw against Oxford isn’t going to change my opinion on BG. But at least my girlfriends ears will be getting a rest from my thoughts on BG being in charge of Rovers for a little while. Expect Northampton to be down there. But before Saturday they had won 1, drew 1 and lost 1 (against Hull, who have won every game). So yes you would expect us to beat them, which we did, but to say it's an easy game is a bit harsh. It wasn't easy for the other teams that played them. On paper clubs thought Wycombe would be an easy game early on. Said all along to judge him after 6-8 league games, with his squad. Overall we still need to do better. But atleast we are competing in games now, which is a start. |
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Post by biggles on Oct 6, 2020 23:58:21 GMT
id love to wear the captain gas outfit if i could
but with this covid virus it wouldn't do me any good
id walk around the pitch and get involved with all the fans
i like to chat with all of them and even shake their hands
but we have to keep our distance to make everybody safe
so what has to be just has to be its true
but when we get back to normal you can take it all from me
we'll all be living in a land thats blue and white mates we'll all be in a land thats full of blue
up the gas
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 7, 2020 4:54:20 GMT
There were a lot more positives to take from this game than the last one against Walsall.
We defended well. I really like the look of Mehew, think he has a bright future.
I didn't think it was a penalty anyway and who knows, if it wasn't given, then we may have held out for the win!
We are very lightweight upfront. Daly puts a lot of effort it, but in terms of end product, he doesn't look anywhere near a league one quality player yet.
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Post by phillistine on Oct 7, 2020 5:10:22 GMT
We are very lightweight upfront. Daly puts a lot of effort it, but in terms of end product, he doesn't look anywhere near a league one quality player yet. I ageee that Daly doesn’t look near the quality yet but I do think that ultimately he will be a great signing. He gets in the positions to score in the way that Tom Nichols never did and yes he is fluffing them at the moment and that is because he lacks the confidence which comes with getting off the mark. I remember that it took Marcus Stewart and even the snake time to get up to speed - it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 5:41:23 GMT
We are very lightweight upfront. Daly puts a lot of effort it, but in terms of end product, he doesn't look anywhere near a league one quality player yet. I ageee that Daly doesn’t look near the quality yet but I do think that ultimately he will be a great signing. He gets in the positions to score in the way that Tom Nichols never did and yes he is fluffing them at the moment and that is because he lacks the confidence which comes with getting off the mark. I remember that it took Marcus Stewart and even the snake time to get up to speed - it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later Totally disagree about Marcus Stewart. He was a star immediately. Didn’t he score on his debut v Ipswich in the championship? |
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Post by phillistine on Oct 7, 2020 5:53:51 GMT
Looking at the first ten games of the season I’d be happy to have accepted playing well and not returning much against Donnie, Sunderland and Ipswich. However, I was extremely disappointed with the manner of play in all three matches. From Northampton on it is about business here on in and I expect results now. One league win against Northampton and an EFL Trophy draw against Oxford isn’t going to change my opinion on BG. But at least my girlfriends ears will be getting a rest from my thoughts on BG being in charge of Rovers for a little while. I think that we have to accept that the team at the end of last season just did not really adapt to B G ‘s style of play for whatever reason and maybe he was naive in expecting too much too soon from them. This season has been different in that our first team has played 4 games now and the second string 2. The first team were disjointed in the first few games and in my opinion that was due to a number of factors. Firstly the defence had no understanding between them with a reserve goalkeeper and a back 3 who never played together in any preseason friendlies. They were still learning how to play out from the back in a competitive environment and were a disaster waiting to happen. The midfield lacked cohesion and we had no attacking threat. on Saturday the defence looked solid and we now seem to be learning when to play the ball out and when to just hit it forward. The midfield looked better with McCormack as a runner and there was an outlet up front who held the ball. The wing backs looked better. The opposition helped but all in all it looks better and the team is beginning to gel. Last night proved that bit by bit the younger players are maturing into proper footballers able to hold their own in the rigours of a proper game. Walker, Hargreaves and Mehew looked at home but the heads went down for some reason after Luke’s misses and that was down to a lack of maturity and leadership. Tone would not have let that happen. We also lacked a physical presence up front. So all in all I think that we are moving forward. I believe that BG has made mistakes but he is new to management and hopefully smart enough to learn. Personally I feel more encouraged by the last 2 games . I actually enjoy passages of play now and see players who are still developing whereas under GC I loved the team spirit and endeavour but I didn’t see style and enjoyable play. I can’t say much more other than UTG |
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Post by phillistine on Oct 7, 2020 6:18:09 GMT
I ageee that Daly doesn’t look near the quality yet but I do think that ultimately he will be a great signing. He gets in the positions to score in the way that Tom Nichols never did and yes he is fluffing them at the moment and that is because he lacks the confidence which comes with getting off the mark. I remember that it took Marcus Stewart and even the snake time to get up to speed - it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later Totally disagree about Marcus Stewart. He was a star immediately. Didn’t he score on his debut v Ipswich in the championship? You may be right to suggest that Marcus scored on his debut - I genuinely don’t know - but that didn’t make him a star player immediately. I remember watching this young player on the fringe behind Saunders and Devon white turn into a regular prolific striker who in his 5 th season got the big ticket move . Daly has played what 4 games - that is my point . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 6:27:43 GMT
I ageee that Daly doesn’t look near the quality yet but I do think that ultimately he will be a great signing. He gets in the positions to score in the way that Tom Nichols never did and yes he is fluffing them at the moment and that is because he lacks the confidence which comes with getting off the mark. I remember that it took Marcus Stewart and even the snake time to get up to speed - it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later Totally disagree about Marcus Stewart. He was a star immediately. Didn’t he score on his debut v Ipswich in the championship? Yes, I remember it well. First game of the season with Martin Dobson in charge, we were 3-0 down and Marcus scored the first goal with Devon pitching in with 2 to secure a draw. |
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Post by turbo8818 on Oct 7, 2020 6:40:54 GMT
Looking at the first ten games of the season I’d be happy to have accepted playing well and not returning much against Donnie, Sunderland and Ipswich. However, I was extremely disappointed with the manner of play in all three matches. From Northampton on it is about business here on in and I expect results now. One league win against Northampton and an EFL Trophy draw against Oxford isn’t going to change my opinion on BG. But at least my girlfriends ears will be getting a rest from my thoughts on BG being in charge of Rovers for a little while. I think that we have to accept that the team at the end of last season just did not really adapt to B G ‘s style of play for whatever reason and maybe he was naive in expecting too much too soon from them. This season has been different in that our first team has played 4 games now and the second string 2. The first team were disjointed in the first few games and in my opinion that was due to a number of factors. Firstly the defence had no understanding between them with a reserve goalkeeper and a back 3 who never played together in any preseason friendlies. They were still learning how to play out from the back in a competitive environment and were a disaster waiting to happen. The midfield lacked cohesion and we had no attacking threat. on Saturday the defence looked solid and we now seem to be learning when to play the ball out and when to just hit it forward. The midfield looked better with McCormack as a runner and there was an outlet up front who held the ball. The wing backs looked better. The opposition helped but all in all it looks better and the team is beginning to gel. Last night proved that bit by bit the younger players are maturing into proper footballers able to hold their own in the rigours of a proper game. Walker, Hargreaves and Mehew looked at home but the heads went down for some reason after Luke’s misses and that was down to a lack of maturity and leadership. Tone would not have let that happen. We also lacked a physical presence up front. So all in all I think that we are moving forward. I believe that BG has made mistakes but he is new to management and hopefully smart enough to learn. Personally I feel more encouraged by the last 2 games . I actually enjoy passages of play now and see players who are still developing whereas under GC I loved the team spirit and endeavour but I didn’t see style and enjoyable play. I can’t say much more other than UTG [br 100% agree, sometimes on this forum you really need to shift through the sh** to get the gold good stuff. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 7, 2020 8:10:48 GMT
Too many clowns in the team tonight. Leahy dreadful penalty and even worse follow up. Keeper is useless and Kelly and Kilgour not up to9 it. Daley unfortunately doesn't have a goal in him . Despite all this it was a decent performance that should have seen us win 2-0 but instead go out of the competition. What it did show tonight is that we are dreadfully short up front and need a goalscorer. Probably not a bad thing to be out of this cup buyt di8sappointing after being the better team for most of the game. Thank you Brian Clough for your comments........... |
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Post by Gastafari on Oct 7, 2020 8:12:50 GMT
I ageee that Daly doesn’t look near the quality yet but I do think that ultimately he will be a great signing. He gets in the positions to score in the way that Tom Nichols never did and yes he is fluffing them at the moment and that is because he lacks the confidence which comes with getting off the mark. I remember that it took Marcus Stewart and even the snake time to get up to speed - it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later Totally disagree about Marcus Stewart. He was a star immediately. Didn’t he score on his debut v Ipswich in the championship? Scored 3 goals in his first 2 games as an 18 year old. |
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