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Post by Jomo on Oct 8, 2020 20:40:18 GMT
It's not a personal or individual thing though. He could go on to do well but the team struggle. No one had heard of David Tutonda and we have to trust our recruitment team, just everyone is quick to criticise without having seen the lad. Next close season will be interesting when we have released some more high earners . Let s stay open minded when we signed JCH some were going bansai on here For me its no reflection on the player himself, I don't have anything against him and I hope he does well. What I am unconvinced by is simply the fact that we've brought in another midfielder when we already have more than enough in the squad. So many of them are going to be left out on a match day that it makes me a little confused when we're getting another one in.
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 8, 2020 20:45:54 GMT
No one had heard of David Tutonda and we have to trust our recruitment team, just everyone is quick to criticise without having seen the lad. Next close season will be interesting when we have released some more high earners . Let s stay open minded when we signed JCH some were going bansai on here For me its no reflection on the player himself, I don't have anything against him and I hope he does well. What I am unconvinced by is simply the fact that we've brought in another midfielder when we already have more than enough in the squad. So many of them are going to be left out on a match day that it makes me a little confused when we're getting another one in. That's fair enough, was hoping for a striker myself, he does seem to be stacking midfielders like the toilet roll hoarders , perhaps there is a shortage 😂😂
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 8, 2020 20:49:00 GMT
Don’t know much about him but he has a good pedigree, Middlesbrough produce a fair few players. It’s good that the lad has taken the choice to move away and prove himself in the lower leagues at the other end of the country by signing a contract with us. He hasn’t got the safety blanket of being able to go back. He’s here for the duration.
Whatever the opinions are on what we need and the worries about being short up front I know that that’s not his fault, so a big welcome to him and hope he can build a great career with us. UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 20:54:09 GMT
It's not a personal or individual thing though. He could go on to do well but the team struggle. No one had heard of David Tutonda and we have to trust our recruitment team, just everyone is quick to criticise without having seen the lad. Next close season will be interesting when we have released some more high earners . Let s stay open minded when we signed JCH some were going bansai on here You haven't understood what I am trying to say.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 8, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
only 5 pages ! ? Don't small midfielders count ??
Welcome Ben Liddle - Rovers' Otzumer !
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 8, 2020 20:55:09 GMT
No one had heard of David Tutonda and we have to trust our recruitment team, just everyone is quick to criticise without having seen the lad. Next close season will be interesting when we have released some more high earners . Let s stay open minded when we signed JCH some were going bansai on here For me its no reflection on the player himself, I don't have anything against him and I hope he does well. What I am unconvinced by is simply the fact that we've brought in another midfielder when we already have more than enough in the squad. So many of them are going to be left out on a match day that it makes me a little confused when we're getting another one in. This is what I am getting at, and the fact we blatantly need more experience yet go for another young player.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 8, 2020 20:55:44 GMT
Another young, lightweight central midfielder. As others have said it appears an odd transfer. What did you make of the win on Saturday ?
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 8, 2020 21:00:39 GMT
For me its no reflection on the player himself, I don't have anything against him and I hope he does well. What I am unconvinced by is simply the fact that we've brought in another midfielder when we already have more than enough in the squad. So many of them are going to be left out on a match day that it makes me a little confused when we're getting another one in. This is what I am getting at, and the fact we blatantly need more experience yet go for another young player. We are going the Cov model get young players develop then sell , there will be no journeymen incomings.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 8, 2020 21:03:17 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong but I make that 11 Defenders 10 Midfielders 3 Stikers Thats not including Mehew and a few others that have made appearances We also have 3 other pro centre forwards, won't bother listing them. Leave that as a bit of homework for you teach
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 8, 2020 21:09:11 GMT
We still need two strikers to balance the squad a bit-maybe one loan and one permanent but please Ben give us some experience. You don't win anything if you don't have goalscorers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 21:14:30 GMT
I’ve no idea, I’m not a scout. We seem to find it a piece of cake to find youngsters with no goals or experience so I was hoping we could be just as good at finding players who can score and do have some experience. We could always do nothing and struggle to score goals of course. I think if it was equally as easy to sign a proven 20 goal a season as it is to sign an untried youngster then everyone would be doing it! Crucially I don’t think we want to do it, we seem to be determined to sign untried youngsters and turn them into world class players at the expense of common sense too much it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 21:16:55 GMT
We still need two strikers to balance the squad a bit-maybe one loan and one permanent but please Ben give us some experience. You don't win anything if you don't have goalscorers. Steve - any thoughts on which experienced goal scorers are realistically available?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 21:22:07 GMT
I think if it was equally as easy to sign a proven 20 goal a season as it is to sign an untried youngster then everyone would be doing it! Crucially I don’t think we want to do it, we seem to be determined to sign untried youngsters and turn them into world class players at the expense of common sense too much it seems. Developing young players is what is being preached as our philosophy, it’s not just BG but what Wael wants too. Also, tried and tested don’t come cheap. I’m genuinely interested in what the forum members think in terms of who we could realistically recruit that fits what many want which is an experienced and proven 20 goal a season striker
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 8, 2020 21:24:33 GMT
I reckon Mehew might go on loan to conference or league 2 after the Chelsea game based on his post match comments against Oxford. Not sure how I feel about it but as long as he gets experience playing the Garner way so he can slot in next season I’ll take a positive
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 8, 2020 21:25:57 GMT
Crucially I don’t think we want to do it, we seem to be determined to sign untried youngsters and turn them into world class players at the expense of common sense too much it seems. Developing young players is what is being preached as our philosophy, it’s not just BG but what Wael wants too. Also, tried and tested don’t come cheap. I’m genuinely interested in what the forum members think in terms of who we could realistically recruit that fits what many want which is an experienced and proven 20 goal a season striker I would say that we couldn’t get such a player for a few reasons, they wouldnt fit the style of play (energy and strength) and would demand more wages than we would be willing to pay
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 21:27:47 GMT
No one had heard of David Tutonda and we have to trust our recruitment team, just everyone is quick to criticise without having seen the lad. Next close season will be interesting when we have released some more high earners . Let s stay open minded when we signed JCH some were going bansai on here For me its no reflection on the player himself, I don't have anything against him and I hope he does well. What I am unconvinced by is simply the fact that we've brought in another midfielder when we already have more than enough in the squad. So many of them are going to be left out on a match day that it makes me a little confused when we're getting another one in. It’s so easy to be critical of Garner because he makes it so easy- like, what is our transfer policy? What does it all mean by signing so many defenders and midfielders whilst neglecting the concept of scoring goals? I really don’t have a clue what we are trying to achieve by continually signing players for positions where we already seem well stocked when there are others that are crying out for attention. It’s yet more evidence, for me, that he doesn’t have a clue what he’s doing. Completely baffled.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2020 21:29:56 GMT
Crucially I don’t think we want to do it, we seem to be determined to sign untried youngsters and turn them into world class players at the expense of common sense too much it seems. Developing young players is what is being preached as our philosophy, it’s not just BG but what Wael wants too. Also, tried and tested don’t come cheap. I’m genuinely interested in what the forum members think in terms of who we could realistically recruit that fits what many want which is an experienced and proven 20 goal a season striker Fair enough, who has had success with that model before? What sort of transfer fees did they get? We’re they able to sustain their league position? What was their ratio of experience to youth? I mean, I assume we haven’t just decided to do this without investigating whether it was viable at league one level first right? ......right?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 8, 2020 21:34:25 GMT
Developing young players is what is being preached as our philosophy, it’s not just BG but what Wael wants too. Also, tried and tested don’t come cheap. I’m genuinely interested in what the forum members think in terms of who we could realistically recruit that fits what many want which is an experienced and proven 20 goal a season striker Fair enough, who has had success with that model before? What sort of transfer fees did they get? We’re they able to sustain their league position? What was their ratio of experience to youth? I mean, I assume we haven’t just decided to do this without investigating whether it was viable at league one level first right? ......right? It’s a new thing mate, we are the originators and so far it’s working fine. We are 15th so in line with approximately where we have finished for the last 4 seasons. Pretty much all these signings are free, just need some More decent Performances to get the prices of them up and we start the money ball - simples
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 8, 2020 21:35:42 GMT
Crucially I don’t think we want to do it, we seem to be determined to sign untried youngsters and turn them into world class players at the expense of common sense too much it seems. Developing young players is what is being preached as our philosophy, it’s not just BG but what Wael wants too. Also, tried and tested don’t come cheap. I’m genuinely interested in what the forum members think in terms of who we could realistically recruit that fits what many want which is an experienced and proven 20 goal a season striker Not sure we're expecting 20 goals a season, 15 would do, there's plenty of L1 clubs signing that type of striker, Taylor and Pitman etc, having sold JCH for £1M+ it's not like we can't afford a striker. Personally I think BG & Weal are deluded if they think they can turn a bit of kids into a competitive L1 side, before they then start selling them for a £1M+ each, every successful team as some experienced players.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Oct 8, 2020 21:37:26 GMT
The way some go on you would think the window has been slammed shut, with no chance of making further additions.
God help any of our new lads. They don’t have a prayer with some of our fanbase.
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