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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2020 18:13:56 GMT
What a great result and better away day performance, arguably our best away performance under BG. Notable performances (for me) of Daly, Tutonga, McCormick, Grant, Hanlan and Hare.. Lincoln tried playing the bully boy tactics of tough 3rd division football, mostly our response was to fall down (I'm not saying we were play acting)! We drew many free kicks from this.....Hanlan drawing fouls and at times having three opponents to take him on. He still stayed on his feet through it, so sometimes could only stop him via foul. A better high tempo match where we pressed more than they did. Loved the Tutonga showboating shimmy. I thought the better team won. Noticeable..... BG after match interview didn't mention a journey? Even though Lincoln (and Sunderland) are further than Ipswich? BG after match interview didn't mention ref decisions? Having seen the Lincoln penalty appeal in first half, I thought it looked a foul (or else why not book for a dive?). Ref gave us a penalty, but not them. Happy to be proved wrong as only seen it once.. I have to put these points in because it'll get lost in future matches where such excuses may re-emerge. To me it looked like the Lincoln player got in front of our player and stuck his ass out just enough for a bit of contact and fell like a dead duck on contact. The ref was wise to it In a packed atmospheric, boisterously chanting of the Thatcher's End, if exactly the same situation was reversed....... would you not scream PENNNNNNNNALTY? |
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Oct 10, 2020 18:16:09 GMT
I didn't watch today but great result and sounds like we deserved it! On the point about penalties, while we can't rely on getting them, there does seem to be one in every game I watch at the moment! I know that's partly VAR but Rovers too. I went to watch Larkhall v Mangotsfield today and there was another penalty!
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Post by kampucheagas on Oct 10, 2020 18:19:00 GMT
I didn't watch today but great result and sounds like we deserved it! On the point about penalties, while we can't rely on getting them, there does seem to be one in every game I watch at the moment! I know that's partly VAR but Rovers too. I went to watch Larkhall v Mangotsfield today and there was another penalty! Did they score it? |
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 10, 2020 18:22:50 GMT
Ffs ifollow had no problem last two occasions, today a bit cocky put it on at 245 after waiting 30 mins finally get a connection, but then witnessed a great performance Daly looking very strong.
Hanlan was very strong and impressive, a good performance from all.
Wish we could play the defensive line a bit higher, second half much better, their commentary so biased it was a joke.
We are progressing week by week and think the players have bought into Garnerball, wish Zains delivery was a bit better at times from free kicks, but at corners we look strong.
Tutonda wont be here long, great skill and exuberance.
Can we forget last season and just enjoy what is evolving. UTG.
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Post by cj on Oct 10, 2020 18:24:33 GMT
It’s not moaning it’s statistics, if we average 2 goals a game, 1 of which is a penalty, what happens when we get denied a blatant pen? Where is the second goal coming from? I’m happy to change my opinion if you can show me a league one side that got penalties in over 50% of their games in any season. Lincoln, penalties in 66% is their games this season Don't forget us mind. 5 league games, 3 penalties. 60% so far this season. Probably best not count the cup games seeing that we have had 2 penalty shoot outs  |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Oct 10, 2020 18:34:57 GMT
Tutonda is everything we hoped we would see from a fit Holmes-Dennis and from his current run of performances I can see the lad go all the way to the prem! People might think I'm mad saying this but there's certain times when you can see a real talent and I believe we are seeing one now! I hope we can tie this lad down to a longer contract and demand a substantial fee in the clause of that contract because this lad has it all.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2020 18:36:54 GMT
Tutonda is everything we hoped we would see from a fit Holmes-Dennis and from his current run of performances I can see the lad go all the way to the prem! People might think I'm mad saying this but there's certain times when you can see a real talent and I believe we are seeing one now! I hope we can tie this lad down to a longer contract and demand a substantial fee in the clause of that contract because this lad has it all. Great post! Same thing was mentioned in polite company today. |
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Post by rambo on Oct 10, 2020 18:51:49 GMT
Yes, but you seem to expect Ben to say ‘great performance by the lads today, but we only won because the ref got that Lincoln penalty appeal wrong’. Nope. If you read my whole post, I give credit to the performance and result. I expect BG to not be disingenuous with his post match excuses. Partly because we don't have the media to say BG you're talking 'tripe' (which is not seen around anymore, one can only wish this was same as BG!). And partly because we couldn't see any tangible change from previous matches. Journey is not an excuse after a month planning for an away match. Ref decisions aren't an excuse either because it happens to every club. What a load of rubbish. Every manager up and down the country in every league will moan if refs are poor and their team loses but will not bother mentioning it if it's the other way round. Every single one bar none. Managers are under such extreme pressure and scrutiny these days they're not gonna add to their burden by admitting they got lucky with decisions and that's why their team won! |
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Post by wertongas on Oct 10, 2020 18:54:50 GMT
Well done BG, we played well against Northampton and kept the same team today, BG appears to have got his team selection right we look so much better with 2 upfront and players in their natural positions. Thought we worked hard today and looked well organised at the back when Lincoln put us under a bit of pressure.
Tutonda looked quality as does Hanlan, my only concern is the lack of a fourth striker, but i think BG plans to play attacking midfielders upfront if we are short of a striker.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2020 18:55:03 GMT
Nope. If you read my whole post, I give credit to the performance and result. I expect BG to not be disingenuous with his post match excuses. Partly because we don't have the media to say BG you're talking 'tripe' (which is not seen around anymore, one can only wish this was same as BG!). And partly because we couldn't see any tangible change from previous matches. Journey is not an excuse after a month planning for an away match. Ref decisions aren't an excuse either because it happens to every club. What a load of rubbish. Every manager up and down the country in every league will moan if refs are poor and their team loses but will not bother mentioning it if it's the other way round. Every single one bar none. Did you post this after Doncaster match? |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 10, 2020 18:56:19 GMT
an away win is a further step forward, no doubt, against a team that is in form and the commentary was full of praise for the defensive work compared to Doncaster so it seems like there has been change. But while there is evidence of defensive improvements I’m still not convinced there are enough goals in this team. Everyone mocks the “Garner needs penalties to win” stat but there is a serious point there- forgive me if I’m wrong but no team has ever had a penalty in every league game of their season. The odd penalty here and there is great but we have to be able to score two goals a game on our own merits from open play yet we’ve had to rely on those penalties more than our own scoring ability.
So overall some humble pie for this particular result in isolation, but I’m still very sceptical that the last three games are going to have a positive snow ball effect long term. Are you feeling ok ? |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 10, 2020 18:57:47 GMT
Funny how the hate and vitriol when we have had a bad result is never matched by the praise and credit for a good one. Yes awful long way to go but w2 d1 l2 given our opening 5 fixtures is not too bad. Let's just enjoy the moment, BG may yet surprise his critics. I think there is a lot of praise and credit. I've certainly praised Garner and the team. you are a different specimen |
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Post by rambo on Oct 10, 2020 18:58:53 GMT
I've loved what I've seen of Tutonda so far and happy to admit I was wrong that he'd be a liability defensively when I first saw him in pre season.
But let's not get too hasty. He made two huge errors today (the only errors he made all game to be fair). One nearly led to a goal and the other gave Lincoln a dangerous free kick in the last minute. Thankfully nothing came from them but I do think he'll make mistakes which will lead to goals this season. But he'll do way more good things than bad so it's not a criticism per se. I think the chat of him being a championship or prem player is way off the mark as I'm not sure defensively he'd stand up to it.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 10, 2020 19:01:06 GMT
Yes, but you seem to expect Ben to say ‘great performance by the lads today, but we only won because the ref got that Lincoln penalty appeal wrong’. Nope. If you read my whole post, I give credit to the performance and result. I expect BG to not be disingenuous with his post match excuses. Partly because we don't have the media to say BG you're talking 'tripe' (which is not seen around anymore, one can only wish this was same as BG!). And partly because we couldn't see any tangible change from previous matches. Journey is not an excuse after a month planning for an away match. Ref decisions aren't an excuse either because it happens to every club. Why can't you just enjoy a decent Rovers performance and an away win, given that we haven't had many of those in the last 3 seasons instead of posting tripe. If you'd had your way BG wouldn't even be our manager let alone giving post match interviews. |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 10, 2020 19:01:44 GMT
I think BG and the team still have lots to prove. Hopefully they can build on last 2 league results. . Apparently we need to give ten before judging so let's not get too carried away. Like I said, pleased we've got some wins on the board. yeah and you were dishing it out after the first 3 so remember that the next time we lose a game or two. |
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Post by rambo on Oct 10, 2020 19:02:33 GMT
What a load of rubbish. Every manager up and down the country in every league will moan if refs are poor and their team loses but will not bother mentioning it if it's the other way round. Every single one bar none. Did you post this after Doncaster match? No I stayed off the forum mostly because the negativity was quite frankly depressing and I didn't see the game so couldn't add much. Not sure how it's relevant? What I stated was a fact |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2020 19:03:57 GMT
Nope. If you read my whole post, I give credit to the performance and result. I expect BG to not be disingenuous with his post match excuses. Partly because we don't have the media to say BG you're talking 'tripe' (which is not seen around anymore, one can only wish this was same as BG!). And partly because we couldn't see any tangible change from previous matches. Journey is not an excuse after a month planning for an away match. Ref decisions aren't an excuse either because it happens to every club. Why can't you just enjoy a decent Rovers performance and an away win, given that we haven't had many of those in the last 3 seasons instead of posting tripe. If you'd had your way BG wouldn't even be our manager let alone giving post match interviews. I'm enjoying it fine, thanks. Hope you are too. It was a great win today (as I posted which your post fails to mention), and as I posted reason at the end (which your post fails to mention). I guess if the reason we lost was because of poor referee decision, then logically it can go the other way can't it? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 10, 2020 19:04:10 GMT
I think there is a lot of praise and credit. I've certainly praised Garner and the team. you are a different specimen Why? |
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Oct 10, 2020 19:06:58 GMT
I didn't watch today but great result and sounds like we deserved it! On the point about penalties, while we can't rely on getting them, there does seem to be one in every game I watch at the moment! I know that's partly VAR but Rovers too. I went to watch Larkhall v Mangotsfield today and there was another penalty! Did they score it? Yeah 3-0 to Larkhall, Phil Bater's their manager! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 10, 2020 19:09:29 GMT
Did you post this after Doncaster match? No I stayed off the forum mostly because the negativity was quite frankly depressing and I didn't see the game so couldn't add much. Not sure how it's relevant? What I stated was a fact I don't blame you or anyone for staying away. Breaks away can be healthy! My post read I find it insulting that BG is disingenuous with his post match comments when we clearly haven't played well. I backed it up by: if ref decisions go against you and lose, then some can go for you and we win. Which I feel did contribute today (if you saw the Lincoln penalty appeal in first half), which highlights inconsistency. I only posted this as BG excuses are muppet talk and insults intelligence for anyone whom has actually spent time and money watching the same match |
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