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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2020 9:14:45 GMT
When was the last time Jakkola was forced to make an actual “real” save? I can only recall once in the last 3 games. During the first half against Lincoln, a routine collection of the ball, down low following a cross from their left side. Teams may well be having a fair share of the ball, but in the final third we are limiting most sides to not very much at all in front of goal. Yes, it’s a very good point. Last night Shrewsbury looked very good up until the final third but then whatever they threatened petered out against our defence. It’s why I thought that it was a good job Leon Clarke wasn’t on the same wavelength as his midfield, he looked good and made lots of runs which th y didn’t play to. The rest of them huffed and puffed. Long may it continue. UTG! |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 21, 2020 10:46:31 GMT
When was the last time Jakkola was forced to make an actual “real” save? I can only recall once in the last 3 games. During the first half against Lincoln, a routine collection of the ball, down low following a cross from their left side. Teams may well be having a fair share of the ball, but in the final third we are limiting most sides to not very much at all in front of goal. Yes, it’s a very good point. Last night Shrewsbury looked very good up until the final third but then whatever they threatened petered out against our defence. It’s why I thought that it was a good job Leon Clarke wasn’t on the same wavelength as his midfield, he looked good and made lots of runs which th y didn’t play to. The rest of them huffed and puffed. Long may it continue. UTG! We got a bit lucky last night - not to concede. Clarke had 2 great chances and the one off the line looked a goal when he hit it. Shrews were good going forward but also vulnerable at the back. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 21, 2020 11:00:37 GMT
Yes, it’s a very good point. Last night Shrewsbury looked very good up until the final third but then whatever they threatened petered out against our defence. It’s why I thought that it was a good job Leon Clarke wasn’t on the same wavelength as his midfield, he looked good and made lots of runs which th y didn’t play to. The rest of them huffed and puffed. Long may it continue. UTG! We got a bit lucky last night - not to concede. Clarke had 2 great chances and the one off the line looked a goal when he hit it. Shrews were good going forward but also vulnerable at the back. Agree with this, but also note that we have also been unlucky not to score more ourselves recently (hit bars, off the line etc) So i guess 'this is football' got to have a bit o luck |
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Post by Marshy on Oct 21, 2020 11:39:06 GMT
We got a bit lucky last night - not to concede. Clarke had 2 great chances and the one off the line looked a goal when he hit it. Shrews were good going forward but also vulnerable at the back. Agree with this, but also note that we have also been unlucky not to score more ourselves recently (hit bars, off the line etc) So i guess 'this is football' got to have a bit o luck Luck of the Irish eh, that rings a bell! 😁 |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 21, 2020 12:13:39 GMT
Agree with this, but also note that we have also been unlucky not to score more ourselves recently (hit bars, off the line etc) So i guess 'this is football' got to have a bit o luck Luck of the Irish eh, that rings a bell! 😁 I wasnt going to say this but last night was a real Coughlan-type win. I cant honestly say the football is much better either despite Garnerball myth. Still waiting to see how we fare against the better sides though before judging though |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 21, 2020 12:19:50 GMT
Luck of the Irish eh, that rings a bell! 😁 I wasnt going to say this but last night was a real Coughlan-type win. I cant honestly say the football is much better either despite Garnerball myth. Still waiting to see how we fare against the better sides though before judging though Based on that I was expecting a lot more positivity from both camps... 'None rose tinters' should be happy with the 3 points and gritty performance (GC style) while the 'rose tinters' would be happy with the 3 points and some decent passages of creativity resulting in 4 shots on target (better than our opponents) and a win Both camps should be happy that we are moving in the right direction IMO UTG |
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Post by baggins on Oct 21, 2020 12:20:03 GMT
Luck of the Irish eh, that rings a bell! 😁 I wasnt going to say this but last night was a real Coughlan-type win. I cant honestly say the football is much better either despite Garnerball myth. Still waiting to see how we fare against the better sides though before judging though Lincoln aren't too shabby, neither are Sunderland. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 21, 2020 12:23:54 GMT
I wasnt going to say this but last night was a real Coughlan-type win. I cant honestly say the football is much better either despite Garnerball myth. Still waiting to see how we fare against the better sides though before judging though Based on that I was expecting a lot more positivity from both camps... 'None rose tinters' should be happy with the 3 points and gritty performance (GC style) while the 'rose tinters' would be happy with the 3 points and some decent passages of creativity resulting in 4 shots on target (better than our opponents) and a win Both camps should be happy that we are moving in the right direction IMO UTG You cant argue with winning games but I feel we have played some of the poorer sides recently and would be intrigued to know how we stand up against the teams who are expected to be up there. Hull and Posh probably the biggest tests. I personally think from the football ive seen 10th is about right, but obviously theres a good chance we will improve as the players play more together |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 21, 2020 12:29:58 GMT
Based on that I was expecting a lot more positivity from both camps... 'None rose tinters' should be happy with the 3 points and gritty performance (GC style) while the 'rose tinters' would be happy with the 3 points and some decent passages of creativity resulting in 4 shots on target (better than our opponents) and a win Both camps should be happy that we are moving in the right direction IMO UTG You cant argue with winning games but I feel we have played some of the poorer sides recently and would be intrigued to know how we stand up against the teams who are expected to be up there. Hull and Posh probably the biggest tests. I personally think from the football ive seen 10th is about right, but obviously theres a good chance we will improve as the players play more together Yeah that's fair - I think Accrington will be a decent test on Saturday - their overall xG is 1.05 vs ours at 0.61 However they like to concede goals mainly in the second half which is when we like to score them  nil nil halftime then a quick brace just after half time to seal it. ( Like its that easy) |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 21, 2020 12:39:40 GMT
You cant argue with winning games but I feel we have played some of the poorer sides recently and would be intrigued to know how we stand up against the teams who are expected to be up there. Hull and Posh probably the biggest tests. I personally think from the football ive seen 10th is about right, but obviously theres a good chance we will improve as the players play more together Yeah that's fair - I think Accrington will be a decent test on Saturday - their overall xG is 1.05 vs ours at 0.61 However they like to concede goals mainly in the second half which is when we like to score them nil nil halftime then a quick brace just after half time to seal it. ( Like its that easy) Well even though ive not been convinced by the football its certainly looking a lot better now than it was after the Donny game. As long as we do keep picking off the lesser names of this division our L1 status should be fine. |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Oct 21, 2020 13:19:39 GMT
Gotta love him, he gives all the stats except one.
Who put the ball in the back of the net the most
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2020 13:38:45 GMT
You can usually tell when a manager is full of bs, they don’t stop talking and they keep repeating stuff. He knew the number of passes, he obviously checked up before the interview and he tried to say that black was white over the offside. It was offside, it wasn’t even close. He didn’t want to give the interviewer a chance to ask difficult questions so he took a deep breath and then didn’t stop talking. Quite funny really, you could even hear him squirming a bit. But then read their forum and it’s a bit like it was on here under GC, without the top 6 placing. They really don’t like his football style, defensive and boring a majority say.
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UTG!
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Post by bambergashead on Oct 21, 2020 17:30:54 GMT
I wasnt going to say this but last night was a real Coughlan-type win. I cant honestly say the football is much better either despite Garnerball myth. Still waiting to see how we fare against the better sides though before judging though Lincoln aren't too shabby, neither are Sunderland. We are still the only side to have scored a league goal against Sunderland this season albeit a penalty. |
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Post by socrates on Oct 21, 2020 17:57:55 GMT
Gotta love him, he gives all the stats except one. Who put the ball in the back of the net the most Haha the blokes talking crap. I mean that might have been their best performance for a longlong time I don’t know but if it was then they’re in for a tough season I didn’t think they were that great at all. It looked like two very average teams to me and it could have been a draw or a goal one way and we scored it and won. I don’t think they dominated at all they were marginally the better side first half and us the second half until the last 15 minutes where they looked dead on their feet and made mistake after mistake and we controlled the game until the end quite comfortably. |
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Post by socrates on Oct 21, 2020 18:25:18 GMT
We also had more shots on target than them.
It’s goals that win games and to score them you need to get shots on target.
The bloke doesn’t come across well.
Mind you neither did Garner when we were losing most weeks.
I do miss DCs honesty.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Oct 21, 2020 18:36:25 GMT
IMO the best chances of the game last night (in order), aside from the goal, were:
1. Grant volley - 6/7 yards out, strongest foot, unmarked, just the keeper to beat
2. Hanlan 1v1 - strongest foot, keeper on his line, plenty of space & time
3. Leon Clarke 1v1 - strongest foot but Jaakkola close to him
4. Tutonda 1v1 - strongest foot, keeper close to him but Daly wide open for an easy tap in if Tutonda squares it
5. Leon Clarke header - tight angle, Jaakkola in position at near post, much harder chance than commentators made out
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Post by socrates on Oct 21, 2020 19:09:17 GMT
IMO the best chances of the game last night (in order), aside from the goal, were: 1. Grant volley - 6/7 yards out, strongest foot, unmarked, just the keeper to beat 2. Hanlan 1v1 - strongest foot, keeper on his line, plenty of space & time 3. Leon Clarke 1v1 - strongest foot but Jaakkola close to him 4. Tutonda 1v1 - strongest foot, keeper close to him but Daly wide open for an easy tap in if Tutonda squares it 5. Leon Clarke header - tight angle, Jaakkola in position at near post, much harder chance than commentators made out Pretty even. Thing is to score you’ve got to hit the target. If you do that and the keeper makes a good save then that’s fair enough. Missing or hitting the post of shooting when you should pass it isn’t unlucky it’s just simply not good enough to score a goal. We were good enough and they weren’t we get the points. So often you hear fans say things like we lost 1-0 but we’re unlucky bevause we hit the post twice. I don’t see that as bad luck. Shrewsbury didn’t do enough to get a draw so they didn’t get a draw, and their manager saying they should have won is ridiculous. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2020 21:10:45 GMT
That’s it in a nutshell socrates. Football’s a results business, you can do all the things you mentioned but if you don’t do enough to get shots on target and past the keeper then you won’t win and however well you play you won’t win games. Too many games like that and you’ll have problems. We know that because it’s happened to us on many occasions. Managers put themselves under pressure when they talk crap because everyone can see behind the bs and know what the real story is.
Yesterday we won, we might play really well on another occasion but lose. That happens but I’d hope for a bit of DC-type-honesty, tell it how it is and move on. Too much verbal crap from any manager will lose him respect. Never throw your players to the press but be honest and say what you mean esp in the dressing room.
UTG!
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Post by oldgas on Oct 22, 2020 8:25:56 GMT
Gotta love him, he gives all the stats except one. Who put the ball in the back of the net the most Haha the blokes talking crap. I mean that might have been their best performance for a longlong time I don’t know but if it was then they’re in for a tough season I didn’t think they were that great at all. It looked like two very average teams to me and it could have been a draw or a goal one way and we scored it and won. I don’t think they dominated at all they were marginally the better side first half and us the second half until the last 15 minutes where they looked dead on their feet and made mistake after mistake and we controlled the game until the end quite comfortably. Perhaps he ought to have paused and considered that the reason his team had so much possession is because we went there to play football and not shut up shop and park the bus which is the traditional tactic of the away side. |
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Post by Marshy on Oct 22, 2020 10:59:40 GMT
I’m not sure why all the focus has shifted to this twat Ricketts?
It should be on Ben, the poor bloke hadn’t won an away game for 40 years and then he only goes and wins 2 on the trot! 👍🍾
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nil nil halftime then a quick brace just after half time to seal it. ( Like its that easy)
