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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Dec 8, 2020 10:54:03 GMT
You said get used to it. I just wondered for how long. Sounds like you know already when I'm going to snuff it ! For how long ? Not sure, but it will continue where jealousy, envy, religious aggression, corruption, anarchy, political fueds, ignorance, laziness, selfishness, banditery, lawlessness, poverty are at their worst, especially when it's historical. You could take a look at a map of the world and see where most of all this can be found. But you can cover up northern europe for example to narrow it down a bit**. How long do you think it will take these nations to improve so their citizens can have a good life ? **can't wait for reactions to this sentence. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 12:39:07 GMT
You said get used to it. I just wondered for how long. Sounds like you know already when I'm going to snuff it ! For how long ? Not sure, but it will continue where jealousy, envy, religious aggression, corruption, anarchy, political fueds, ignorance, laziness, selfishness, banditery, lawlessness, poverty are at their worst, especially when it's historical. You could take a look at a map of the world and see where most of all this can be found. But you can cover up northern europe for example to narrow it down a bit**. How long do you think it will take these nations to improve so their citizens can have a good life ? **can't wait for reactions to this sentence. As soon as we stop stripping their natural resources and burning the planet. |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Dec 8, 2020 12:47:13 GMT
Sounds like you know already when I'm going to snuff it ! For how long ? Not sure, but it will continue where jealousy, envy, religious aggression, corruption, anarchy, political fueds, ignorance, laziness, selfishness, banditery, lawlessness, poverty are at their worst, especially when it's historical. You could take a look at a map of the world and see where most of all this can be found. But you can cover up northern europe for example to narrow it down a bit**. How long do you think it will take these nations to improve so their citizens can have a good life ? **can't wait for reactions to this sentence. As soon as we stop stripping their natural resources and burning the planet. Possibly. But which generation(s) are these industries doing this for ? (tip: unlikely to be the over 50s). Therein could lie several answers to several issues. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 13:14:04 GMT
As soon as we stop stripping their natural resources and burning the planet. Possibly. But which generation(s) are these industries doing this for ? (tip: unlikely to be the over 50s). Therein could lie several answers to several issues. If you are the country being stripped, that's not relevant |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 8, 2020 15:26:28 GMT
Got to say it's pretty hard to defend Millwall considering their fans antics in the Everton FA Cup game last year. Feels like a deflecting tactic blaming BLM politics as an excuse for booing an anti racism gesture.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2020 16:05:00 GMT
Got to say it's pretty hard to defend Millwall considering their fans antics in the Everton FA Cup game last year. Feels like a deflecting tactic blaming BLM politics as an excuse for booing an anti racism gesture. That’s because it’s complete & utter bollox |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Dec 8, 2020 16:06:59 GMT
Possibly. But which generation(s) are these industries doing this for ? (tip: unlikely to be the over 50s). Therein could lie several answers to several issues. If you are the country being stripped, that's not relevant Eh ? What ? Explanation required. |
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 8, 2020 16:53:39 GMT
It's a complexed issue, like I said its best to delve deeper and look at the facts and data. As I've already said why are people of Chinese here and of Japanese and Korean origin over in the states over represented in the higher earners? They are top of pretty much every sector. Then Southern Asians, i.e people of Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi origins are also over represented too, and out perform not just Blacks but Whites too. A lot of it comes down to culture, as somebody who has a Black family and has also lived for brief periods in Cities in America with majority Black populations, I've seen it first hand. I've mentioned on other threads that the Welfare state in America has a lot to answer for, before the Welfare state, when Black people really were oppressed, 80% of Black families lived in a strong 2 parent family structure, their communities were safe, there was little crime, little violence and murder. Fast forward to now where 66% of Black kids live in single mum households on Welfare, their communities are rife with Drug crime and the murder rates are some of the highest in the World. Is it really to do with racism and oppression? As Black families had a better structure and didnt rely on Welfare, and that was when they really were oppressed, living under Jim Crow laws where they couldn't eat or even go for a p*ss next to Whites. Sometimes we just have to be honest, and not just blame everybody else. Over represented in what, sorry? High earners? I think people view black to asian very differently tbh. I agree some parts will be cultural, but I'd wager a bet that 95% of people would feel more intimidated by a group of black teenagers than a group of Asian teenagers. I think it also comes down to how people view them. What are the chances of a black teenager being stopped and searched vs an asian teenager? Yes in the higher earners. In both here and the United States people of Chinese, Japanese, Korean origin are the highest earners, i.e the highest median income, they have the best success rate in terms of graduating from Universitys of any other ethnic group. Indians are next in line. Again it comes down to culture, again sometimes you need to look closer to home and stop blaming everybody else. The Hip Hop, grime, drill culture again has a lot to answer for, once something gets a reputation it sticks, just like the Teddy Boys of the 50's, Punk in the late 70's, I am sure if people walked down the street and saw a bunch of Punks walking towards them with their Spikey, hair, ripped clothes and Doc Martins in 1978 they'd be intimidated too. I've been intimidated by a group of White kids in a large group on bikes, with Hoodys on, and track suits, its natural. Not just because they're Black. Again, being stopped and searched is again a complexed issue. Unfortunately Blacks are top of the tree when it comes to violent crime. If the Police just has the description of a Black kid, in a Black hoody, why would they stop and search an Asian kid? If the perpetrators of certain crimes are disproportionately co.mited by a certain demographic, then there more than likely going to get stopped. Cmon lets get real, stop blaming everybody else. |
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Post by colinbriggs on Dec 8, 2020 16:54:12 GMT
Wondering how gasheads would react if rovers players took the knee
Fans from all over Britain have stood and sent support to the fans of millwall and west ham for showing displeasure on sunday by booing.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2020 17:02:18 GMT
Wondering how gasheads would react if rovers players took the knee * racist Fans from all over Britain have stood and sent support to the fans of millwall and west ham for showing displeasure on sunday by booing. |
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 8, 2020 17:03:25 GMT
Over represented in what, sorry? High earners? I think people view black to asian very differently tbh. I agree some parts will be cultural, but I'd wager a bet that 95% of people would feel more intimidated by a group of black teenagers than a group of Asian teenagers. I think it also comes down to how people view them. What are the chances of a black teenager being stopped and searched vs an asian teenager? Gastafari says it because he believes it. We have been on this roundabout before. So let's take Chinese immigrants to the UK. How many, and how many are in the upper income groups, then express that as a percentage. With links and references... Gastafari? Oldie, you know just as well as I do that Chinese and other eastern Asians are top of the median income tables both here and the US. Indians are next in line. This is the thing when it comes yo figures, Asian groups are always seperated from eacthother. Why is not done for Black communities? I can hazrd a guess why because it will blow the narrative out the water. |
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Post by baggins on Dec 8, 2020 17:38:13 GMT
Wondering how gasheads would react if rovers players took the knee Fans from all over Britain have stood and sent support to the fans of millwall and west ham for showing displeasure on sunday by booing. Interesting. Got a link? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 18:47:27 GMT
Gastafari says it because he believes it. We have been on this roundabout before. So let's take Chinese immigrants to the UK. How many, and how many are in the upper income groups, then express that as a percentage. With links and references... Gastafari? Oldie, you know just as well as I do that Chinese and other eastern Asians are top of the median income tables both here and the US. Indians are next in line. This is the thing when it comes yo figures, Asian groups are always seperated from eacthother. Why is not done for Black communities? I can hazrd a guess why because it will blow the narrative out the water. I know what I know. But Gastafari it is you that is making the assertion. So, rather than tell me what I know, how about linking to the evidence that backs up your assertion. Specifically in relation to people of Chinese and Indian Sub Continent ethnicity. |
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 8, 2020 19:56:06 GMT
Oldie, you know just as well as I do that Chinese and other eastern Asians are top of the median income tables both here and the US. Indians are next in line. This is the thing when it comes yo figures, Asian groups are always seperated from eacthother. Why is not done for Black communities? I can hazrd a guess why because it will blow the narrative out the water. I know what I know. But Gastafari it is you that is making the assertion. So, rather than tell me what I know, how about linking to the evidence that backs up your assertion. Specifically in relation to people of Chinese and Indian Sub Continent ethnicity. Because I don't need to post a link. We've spoke about this on the George Floyd thread. Eastern Asians and of Indian origins top the Median income tables. Its the same here in the UK. They are the highest average earners. These are facts Oldie. They're readily available from Census bureau's and the like. Go and look for yourself. Its also interesting that certain nationalities that fall under the "Black" category are also some of the highest average earners. I.e of Nigerian descent. That's why I keep saying its a complex issue, and a lot to do with culture rather than race. Also why I said that people of Asian origins are seperated in these figures, but it never is when its the Black communities, they're just all lumped in together. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2020 20:25:21 GMT
Milwall fans cheer tonight as some players take the knee .
Not sure who they’re cheering from the quick clip sky put up on Twitter ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 20:58:30 GMT
Milwall fans cheer tonight as some players take the knee . Not sure who they’re cheering from the quick clip sky put up on Twitter ? They were cheering the equalities banner which both teams held up in the centre circle. No Millwall player took the knee, although Romeo raised a clenched fist while standing. Strangely, QPR, who abandoned taking the knee several weeks ago, all took the knee tonight. There was no booing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 20:59:31 GMT
Milwall fans cheer tonight as some players take the knee . Not sure who they’re cheering from the quick clip sky put up on Twitter ? They’re applauding the anti-racism banner that both clubs got behind. To be fair that was what should have been done from the start or at least when fans returned to the stadiums. I guess the governing body had no idea about the strength of feeling in relation to the BLM slogan’s link to controversial political aims |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2020 21:17:09 GMT
Now QPR players celebrate goal by taking the knee ....
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Post by Gastafari on Dec 8, 2020 21:30:50 GMT
Now QPR players celebrate goal by taking the knee .... 🤪 The same QPR who came out with a statement as to why they didnt take the knee, and that it had run its course back in September? Makes sense 🙄 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 21:57:08 GMT
So it’s a goal celebration now? 😂
I agree gastafari - QPR stopping then starting again suggests they are using the gesture simply to wind up Millwall fans. No moral high ground for either of them, QPR stooping to Millwall’s level. The pantomime continues...
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