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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 14:31:43 GMT
Farrage brexit winning still...
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2021 15:00:58 GMT
Farrage brexit winning still... “For just £50 I’ll wish the fisherman a happy fishmas “ |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2021 18:02:11 GMT
Brexit means Brexit
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Post by yattongas on Mar 10, 2021 19:51:43 GMT
Gammons struggling....
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 10, 2021 19:52:48 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Mar 12, 2021 0:01:55 GMT
Interesting that we’ve decided NOT to take control of our borders until jan 2022 . 🇬🇧
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 12, 2021 18:36:12 GMT
Turing Scheme up and running, my bold font below; "UK students did not have to pay tuition fees when studying abroad under Erasmus because the scheme was reciprocal - it allowed EU students to come and study in the UK as well. The Turing scheme will not pay tuition fees for UK students studying abroad or for students from other countries studying in the UK. Instead, it expects the fees to be waived by the universities that take part.
Universities Minister Michelle Donelan told the Today programme "The way it'll work is our universities will partner with another university and they will waive the fees because they will be exchanging students."The government has allocated £110m for the first year of the scheme, which starts in 2021/22, but it is not currently funded after that." www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47293927 |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 12, 2021 19:01:41 GMT
Turing Scheme up and running, my bold font below; "UK students did not have to pay tuition fees when studying abroad under Erasmus because the scheme was reciprocal - it allowed EU students to come and study in the UK as well. The Turing scheme will not pay tuition fees for UK students studying abroad or for students from other countries studying in the UK. Instead, it expects the fees to be waived by the universities that take part.
Universities Minister Michelle Donelan told the Today programme "The way it'll work is our universities will partner with another university and they will waive the fees because they will be exchanging students."The government has allocated £110m for the first year of the scheme, which starts in 2021/22, but it is not currently funded after that." www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47293927That will be interesting sounds like a good plan to partner up and waive the fees,let's see how ultruistic Universities can be. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 12, 2021 21:31:45 GMT
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Post by bluestargas on Mar 12, 2021 23:27:02 GMT
You got too get into get out.
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Post by gas78 on Mar 13, 2021 0:30:34 GMT
Whether you're remain or leave, I'm sure we can admit that there was huge opportunity that came along with Brexit. As someone who voted leave, I have to say it's really disappointing that we managed to cock up what was potentially a fantastic opportunity - and we only have ourselves to blame. |
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Post by baggins on Mar 13, 2021 6:05:13 GMT
You got too get into get out. Tune. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 13, 2021 7:49:52 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Mar 13, 2021 7:50:43 GMT
Whether you're remain or leave, I'm sure we can admit that there was huge opportunity that came along with Brexit. As someone who voted leave, I have to say it's really disappointing that we managed to cock up what was potentially a fantastic opportunity - and we only have ourselves to blame. Explain ? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 13, 2021 9:05:16 GMT
Whether you're remain or leave, I'm sure we can admit that there was huge opportunity that came along with Brexit. As someone who voted leave, I have to say it's really disappointing that we managed to cock up what was potentially a fantastic opportunity - and we only have ourselves to blame. Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 13, 2021 9:11:51 GMT
Whether you're remain or leave, I'm sure we can admit that there was huge opportunity that came along with Brexit. As someone who voted leave, I have to say it's really disappointing that we managed to cock up what was potentially a fantastic opportunity - and we only have ourselves to blame. Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 Agree Stuart about our bark!!. It's too early to tell yet on trade as there has been no normal trading period due to the pandemic/Brexit and getting used to the rules which I hope overtime will become more sensible. I will look for comparative figures in the last quarter of this year. |
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Post by gas78 on Mar 13, 2021 10:10:47 GMT
Whether you're remain or leave, I'm sure we can admit that there was huge opportunity that came along with Brexit. As someone who voted leave, I have to say it's really disappointing that we managed to cock up what was potentially a fantastic opportunity - and we only have ourselves to blame. Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 Good morning to you Stuart, didn't realise I'd built up a reputation already! Glad to hear people are more up for a debate on this forum than the other - I asked one poster on there to justify what he claimed as a fact and he blocked me instantly. Very childish. On my post - I meant opportunities pre-Brexit vote. Yes we knew there would be economic issues at first and it'd be a struggle, but there was a good opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals and as a nation, hopefully prosper similar to Switzerland, Norway, Australia etc. Brexit was always a long term plan to be fair, I just didn't expect us to be so disorganised and stupid in our negotiations. If we'd have actually had a plan and strategy, we could have set ourselves up for success. Instead, we've given ourselves a mountain to climb and it will be more of a struggle than it probably needed to be. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 13, 2021 10:34:27 GMT
Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 Good morning to you Stuart, didn't realise I'd built up a reputation already! Glad to hear people are more up for a debate on this forum than the other - I asked one poster on there to justify what he claimed as a fact and he blocked me instantly. Very childish. On my post - I meant opportunities pre-Brexit vote. Yes we knew there would be economic issues at first and it'd be a struggle, but there was a good opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals and as a nation, hopefully prosper similar to Switzerland, Norway, Australia etc. Brexit was always a long term plan to be fair, I just didn't expect us to be so disorganised and stupid in our negotiations. If we'd have actually had a plan and strategy, we could have set ourselves up for success. Instead, we've given ourselves a mountain to climb and it will be more of a struggle than it probably needed to be. If we’d of strayed in the single market & customs union we *may* of been able to make a success of it , going for the hardest possible brexit apart from WTO terms was the nail in the coffin |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 13, 2021 11:17:45 GMT
Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 Good morning to you Stuart, didn't realise I'd built up a reputation already! Glad to hear people are more up for a debate on this forum than the other - I asked one poster on there to justify what he claimed as a fact and he blocked me instantly. Very childish. On my post - I meant opportunities pre-Brexit vote. Yes we knew there would be economic issues at first and it'd be a struggle, but there was a good opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals and as a nation, hopefully prosper similar to Switzerland, Norway, Australia etc. Brexit was always a long term plan to be fair, I just didn't expect us to be so disorganised and stupid in our negotiations. If we'd have actually had a plan and strategy, we could have set ourselves up for success. Instead, we've given ourselves a mountain to climb and it will be more of a struggle than it probably needed to be. I don't think we have been disorganised or stupid,we have signed quite a few bi lateral deals and we barred from actual negotiations until we had left,in the context of time we have been nimble, it took the EU 8 years I think to finalise it's deal with Canada. Welcome to the sunlit uplands of this forum😆😆 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 13, 2021 11:28:40 GMT
Good morning Gas78, I presume you are the same as Gas78 on the other site. Either way welcome to our little, if sometimes heated, debate. Not sure which opportunities you are thinking of, at a guess it could be the ties with Asian economies. If so, that is one potential benefit but where I would disagree is that it will outlay the downsides losing or restricting access to our larger and more immediate trading partners. Anyway, look forward to your thoughts. Don't be too put off by the tone, our bark is far worse than our bite. 😇 Good morning to you Stuart, didn't realise I'd built up a reputation already! Glad to hear people are more up for a debate on this forum than the other - I asked one poster on there to justify what he claimed as a fact and he blocked me instantly. Very childish. On my post - I meant opportunities pre-Brexit vote. Yes we knew there would be economic issues at first and it'd be a struggle, but there was a good opportunity to negotiate our own trade deals and as a nation, hopefully prosper similar to Switzerland, Norway, Australia etc. Brexit was always a long term plan to be fair, I just didn't expect us to be so disorganised and stupid in our negotiations. If we'd have actually had a plan and strategy, we could have set ourselves up for success. Instead, we've given ourselves a mountain to climb and it will be more of a struggle than it probably needed to be. It was an interesting exchange between you both, something we've had on here too under a different name. Anyway, back to Brexit. I think the main problem was that Brexit meant different things to different people and nobody had a viable, coherent plan. It was then lost in a intra-party fight at the expense of genuine debate. That is probably where most of my frustration lies. Brexit along the lines of EFTA would have satisfied about 80% of people but the infighting dragged it out to a very hard version, problems have been totally foreseeable and despite the rhetoric, Brexit isn't done and won't be for a while yet. Opportunities yes, but I don't see the net gain. |
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