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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 17:56:36 GMT
I make it 10 points from his first 10 games. Not really any worse than a Garner but not better either and certainly not good enough. If we carry on picking up a point a game we’ll go down. Considering Garner played a lot more of the top placed sides, I think he is doing worse personally The most insulting thing you can say about Tisdale is that he is making Garner look good. It’s going to become Gaschat fact that Garner would have kept us up just like Coughlan finished mid table.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 30, 2021 17:57:02 GMT
The problem has been the same all season. Either we don’t have any strikers on the bench and now we only have Ayunga. I don’t like to bash him as he was surely bought to develop. How anyone at the club has let us go through a campaign with this strikeforce is beyond belief. I’m bracing myself for League 2 when I finally punish myself by driving from Dorset on a Saturday, unless the club can find a gem from somewhere, seems to me all the potential signings have decided we are a basket case and possibly rightly so! Tis needs to go to a back 4, not play Westbrooke and Harries, surely he’s seen enough now. A good season to miss by the looks of it. I agree about going to a back 4 butbl would just replace the defender with McCormick and keep Westbrooke in the side. His best games are when we have played that way.
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Post by keygas on Jan 30, 2021 18:00:31 GMT
We are deep in a relegation scrap & players like Westbrook & Ayunga aren’t the sort of players you need to fight your way out of trouble, missed Baldwin today for the number of blocks he gets in. Just hope if we can’t get someone in ,Daly is ready to come back in as he’s the only one of our forwards who seems to come alive in the penalty area, there was a couple of times today when we needed someone to commit themselves to balls coming across the area.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 30, 2021 18:01:00 GMT
Our problem is Garner was a under 21s manager at the elite level and thought he could bring those players and principles to l1 adult level. I thought PT could come in and iron out some of the flaws and instil a bit of realism but it’s boys vs men out there. They think they’re still at school. Compare them to the players who’ve had to fight for their careers like we saw in the players who took us to two promotions from the conference. Players who’d tasted disappointment and the harsh reality of football. Those who’d been blunted and had high mental strength. The project is failing. Sorry I don't think that's fair to say men against boys especially today with the Rochdale back line and goalkeeper. The problem is 5 at the back as our best performances under PT have been with a back 4 it really is that simple.
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Post by carlts2020 on Jan 30, 2021 18:01:23 GMT
Considering Garner played a lot more of the top placed sides, I think he is doing worse personally The most insulting thing you can say about Tisdale is that he is making Garner look good. It’s going to become Gaschat fact that Garner would have kept us up just like Coughlan finished mid table. I suppose we can only look at it objectively. Coughlan quit so have no idea where he would have finished. Could have been 4th, could have been 1st or could have been 10th. Garner took over and we finished 14th. Garner before he was sacked had us in 18th. Tisdale has us in 19th.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 18:01:25 GMT
So Tiss say chances of signing a striker by close of play Monday is unlikely...well that's just what I didn't need to hear.
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Post by RD on Jan 30, 2021 18:03:25 GMT
So Tiss say chances of signing a striker by close of play Monday is unlikely...well that's just what I didn't need to hear. Fail to sign one an we are down - simple as that. Will be whacking a good few hundred on in middle of next week
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Post by CheshireGas on Jan 30, 2021 18:03:26 GMT
How very depressing. It looks very much like we are relegated. Not least because the manager does not appear to have a plan to get the best out of the players we have. Sad but true Oldie. We are one of those teams that benefit from having crowds, and as such have no passion without the crowds. The lack of atmosphere exposes the players who can motivate themselves or not. Ours cannot raise their game and just seem to be going through the motions. The Mem is a demanding place. If the crowd were in at this level it can raise the team but also show their frustration at the lack of passion or fight in them. There is nothing at present that makes these players realise what is required and Tisdale is obviously not motivating them and seemingly confusing with his poor tactics.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 30, 2021 18:03:41 GMT
League record under Tis:
Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7
Not good, that!
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Post by RD on Jan 30, 2021 18:04:39 GMT
League record under Tis: Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 Not good, that! Tempted to say sack him tbh. 3 games at most to save his job IMO. He won me over with his talking but you've got to walk the walk.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2021 18:04:55 GMT
I make it 10 points from his first 10 games. Not really any worse than a Garner but not better either and certainly not good enough. If we carry on picking up a point a game we’ll go down. Chances are Garner may have improved with time, when he was sacked we were doing OK away from home if not at the Mem. I love the way posters think a new striker is suddenly going to change our fortunes, it's not like he's going to play in defence and also attack. Although it's odd Wael's seemingly cleared £20m of debts and paid out £m's on the training ground but we can't afford a decent striker.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 18:06:03 GMT
The most insulting thing you can say about Tisdale is that he is making Garner look good. It’s going to become Gaschat fact that Garner would have kept us up just like Coughlan finished mid table. I suppose we can only look at it objectively. Coughlan quit so have no idea where he would have finished. Could have been 4th, could have been 1st or could have been 10th. Garner took over and we finished 14th. Garner before he was sacked had us in 18th. Tisdale has us in 19th. Sadly Tiss has made no difference to this squad what so ever. Perhaps more long balls, defense perhaps a even a little more error prone and about the same level of creativity and energy. Tiss will be worried as a relegation will effectively end his managerial career.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2021 18:07:08 GMT
League record under Tis: Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 Not good, that! Tempted to say sack him tbh. 3 games at most to save his job IMO. He won me over with his talking but you've got to walk the walk. With Accy & Fleetwood up next Wael may as well sack him now as we're unlikely to get anything from those two games. Surely getting GC back can't be worse than the rubbish Tisdale's team is turning out.
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Post by RD on Jan 30, 2021 18:07:24 GMT
I make it 10 points from his first 10 games. Not really any worse than a Garner but not better either and certainly not good enough. If we carry on picking up a point a game we’ll go down. Chances are Garner may have improved with time, when he was sacked we were doing OK away from home if not at the Mem. I love the way posters think a new striker is suddenly going to change our fortunes, it's not like he's going to play in defence and also attack. Although it's odd Wael's seemingly cleared £20m of debts and paid out £m's on the training ground but we can't afford a decent striker. We were in for Stockley ffs. Can't blame Wael if no sane player wants to join us
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Post by CheshireGas on Jan 30, 2021 18:08:52 GMT
League record under Tis: Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 Not good, that! Tempted to say sack him tbh. 3 games at most to save his job IMO. He won me over with his talking but you've got to walk the walk. After Monday, if we don't bring in a striker or Tony Craig style defender/captain, it won't matter who is manager. These players showed today they have no heart, passion or the ability to stay up.
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Post by TAGas on Jan 30, 2021 18:10:30 GMT
That was utter sh!t. We'r definitely in trouble now.
You can see why Rochdale concede so many goals.
And our scorer was our LB. Tough times ahead
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 30, 2021 18:11:06 GMT
League record under Tis: Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 Not good, that! Tempted to say sack him tbh. 3 games at most to save his job IMO. He won me over with his talking but you've got to walk the walk. It’s a tough one for me cos I really don’t wanna go back to the Buckle/McGhee/Penney days of us sacking two managers a season - it makes us look like a basket case - but I’m not sure where we go from a performance and result like that... Like you, no win in the next 3 and I think we’d have no choice but to look elsewhere.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 30, 2021 18:12:10 GMT
How very depressing. It looks very much like we are relegated. Not least because the manager does not appear to have a plan to get the best out of the players we have. Sad but true Oldie. We are one of those teams that benefit from having crowds, and as such have no passion without the crowds. The lack of atmosphere exposes the players who can motivate themselves or not.Ours cannot raise their game and just seem to be going through the motions. The Mem is a demanding place. If the crowd were in at this level it can raise the team but also show their frustration at the lack of passion or fight in them. There is nothing at present that makes these players realise what is required and Tisdale is obviously not motivating them and seemingly confusing with his poor tactics. Aren't you ignoring the fact that since we laid the new pitch our home form as been shocking, it led to DC & BG being sacked and I don't think it was great under GC, our best home performance under him was when he threatened to cancel the players Christmas party, under BG it was TC's 600th game, so nothing at all to do with the fans. Can you imagine the stick Westbrook, Ayunga and Leahy would now be getting if we had crowds at the Mem!
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Post by garythegas on Jan 30, 2021 18:13:37 GMT
We are a basket case.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 18:14:14 GMT
League record under Tis: Pl 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 Not good, that! Trouble is, even if we could afford it, I don't think sacking Tiss would make a jot of difference as I don't think any manager would be able to do much with this squad as too many are protected by long contracts. What I'd give for a Brian Godfrey in midfield and a Don Megson in defense ...half the wages these players get today and twice the determination and motivation.
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