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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 30, 2021 20:29:30 GMT
The club knew 3 months ago we were short up front . Even though we made £1.7 plus on JCH and two cup runs . They allowed the situation to continue . The proof in the pudding will be Monday evening. If we don't then it speaks volumes to the direction of this club.. Widdrington has told us he works three windows ahead, so no doubt we can sit back and await the arrival of a quality striker, midfielder and quality centreback/ captain. My expectation, nobody! TW is not looking at this window, he’s identified three brilliant signings for the summer of 2022 though. However, when the window for the summer of 2022 does open one of those potential signings will have picked up a career ending injury whilst the other two will have performed so well over the last year and a half that they will be signing for PL or championship clubs. Press release for close of window summer 2022 has already been drafted, “we were really close to signing our top targets but they unfortunately chose other clubs, luckily our top of the range training facilities have enabled us to sign another top quality groundsman.” |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 20:33:41 GMT
Widdrington has told us he works three windows ahead, so no doubt we can sit back and await the arrival of a quality striker, midfielder and quality centreback/ captain. My expectation, nobody! TW is not looking at this window, he’s identified three brilliant signings for the summer of 2022 though. However, when the window for the summer of 2022 does open one of those potential signings will have picked up a career ending injury whilst the other two will have performed so well over the last year and a half that they will be signing for PL or championship clubs. Press release for close of window summer 2022 has already been drafted, “we were really close to signing our top targets but they unfortunately chose other clubs, luckily our top of the range training facilities have enabled us to sign another top quality groundsman.” You omitted to add and a brand new top of the range lawn mower for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 20:35:55 GMT
1.7mn profit is irrelevant in the middle of a pandemic sadly. Most clubs in this division at the bottom didn't make 1.3 mil on their top strikers . How much did Rochdale get for Henderson and they still bid 4 times to Southend to get there man !. How many clubs have had an owner wipe millions of pounds of debt and spend a fortune on a new training complex during a pandemic? Not totally sure what happened with Humphreys but wasn’t it clear from the start he wanted to move north? Us bidding more and more would have been a waste of time other than pushing the price up for Rochdale. |
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 30, 2021 20:39:06 GMT
TW is not looking at this window, he’s identified three brilliant signings for the summer of 2022 though. However, when the window for the summer of 2022 does open one of those potential signings will have picked up a career ending injury whilst the other two will have performed so well over the last year and a half that they will be signing for PL or championship clubs. Press release for close of window summer 2022 has already been drafted, “we were really close to signing our top targets but they unfortunately chose other clubs, luckily our top of the range training facilities have enabled us to sign another top quality groundsman.” You omitted to add and a brand new top of the range lawn mower for him. When the os said we had bought john Deere thought he was a striker 😂😂 |
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Post by hardingegas on Jan 30, 2021 21:01:12 GMT
Well, that was a poor performance. We're definitely sleep walking now to relegation.
I feared for the worst after seeing the lineup. No point in playing a back five against a team that struggles to defend. The fact we could only score one goal proved that.
Two soft goals conceded but we should have been capable of scoring three!
Hopefully Daly can return as I'm sorry to say (and I hope he has a career in league football) but Ayunga is an embarrassment at this level.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 30, 2021 21:19:28 GMT
Well, that was a poor performance. We're definitely sleep walking now to relegation. I feared for the worst after seeing the lineup. No point in playing a back five against a team that struggles to defend. The fact we could only score one goal proved that. Two soft goals conceded but we should have been capable of scoring three! Hopefully Daly can return as I'm sorry to say (and I hope he has a career in league football) but Ayunga is an embarrassment at this level. As far as I can see, with no incomings the best hope we have is for Daly to come in and a change of formation |
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Post by dutchgas on Jan 30, 2021 21:26:17 GMT
Well, that was a poor performance. We're definitely sleep walking now to relegation. I feared for the worst after seeing the lineup. No point in playing a back five against a team that struggles to defend. The fact we could only score one goal proved that. Two soft goals conceded but we should have been capable of scoring three! Hopefully Daly can return as I'm sorry to say (and I hope he has a career in league football) but Ayunga is an embarrassment at this level. That last chance for Ayunga was truly shocking. A great cross just about on the goal line for him to slide in and he just didn't move. Where was the hunger and desperation to get that ball across the line no matter what? Good strikers love scoring goals and will do anything to get the ball in the net. Ayunga looked like he didn't want to get dirty, he's no striker. |
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Post by dukegas on Jan 30, 2021 21:27:45 GMT
Just heard Tisdale’s after match report, he’s obviously very frustrated and saying that he needs to get it into the players heads to do the basics and perhaps a conversation isn’t good enough, bloody right it’s not, can you imagine if those 11 players were walking in at half time if Roy Keane was the manager, they all need a massive reality check, and show some character and run for your team mates, there needs to be better and more aggressive communication on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 21:27:59 GMT
You omitted to add and a brand new top of the range lawn mower for him. When the os said we had bought john Deere thought he was a striker 😂😂 He's yer man if you need a lad to plough a lone furrow up front |
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Post by 1986gashead on Jan 30, 2021 21:38:47 GMT
Just heard Tisdale’s after match report, he’s obviously very frustrated and saying that he needs to get it into the players heads to do the basics and perhaps a conversation isn’t good enough, bloody right it’s not, can you imagine if those 11 players were walking in at half time if Roy Keane was the manager, they all need a massive reality check, and show some character and run for your team mates, there needs to be better and more aggressive communication on the pitch. Just listened, he sounded watered! |
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Post by Jester on Jan 30, 2021 22:10:08 GMT
Well, I've been reading this lot for the last hour, having seen the match this afternoon and realised how bad our defending is since we went to a back 3. The difference today was that we didn't have both Ogogo and Grant on the field covering for some of the mistakes of the back 3 and no matter what you say about Westbrooke, he doesn't tackle back like either of the other two (or even McCormick) so he shouldn't be picked as one of the two in front of the back four.
I think, like most of you (?), we should go back to a 4-4-2 (actually 4-3-1-2) with McCormick, Ogogo, Grant and Ozzy and play Nicholson and Hanlon up front.
I think Baldwin and Kilgour should play in the middle and Williams and Leahy at FB. I still think, as Sam Frost said "Rovers risk sleepwalking to relegation unless they act in transfer market" and our wonderful 'recruitment team' seem incapable of bringing in a striker in this window. Although Daly may well bring us some goals, he is not the answer to our problem. Hanlon is on the edge of burnout (you can almost see it the way he's playing now!) and I'm afraid Ayunga is not a replacement.
Thanks GGMI, I'm actually glad you took this one as I might have been tempted after Peterborough, but my home match threads have been pretty dire!
Maybe I'll try again on Tuesday??
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Post by meldrew on Jan 31, 2021 4:26:40 GMT
I ask the question, apart from two changes to the team that held Posh last Tuesday, how can they put in such an inept performance. Today, there were only two players who showed any real pride or fight. That was Leahy and Nicholson. The rest were just along for the ride showing no aggression, no spirit, no urgency, just there to draw their pay at the end of the month. I am sorry but the days and years of following the Gas are slowly coming to an end for me. I am no longer prepared to fork out for season ticket to be forced to watch dross like this. The great Rovers players of old must be turning in their graves. Sorry, but league two beckons.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 31, 2021 5:31:46 GMT
We wont sign anyone by Monday and if we do I doubt it'll be anyone to really improve the team.
Our best bet is to get Daly and Jak back in goal as soon as possible, hope for no more injuries and we might be ok.
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Post by carlts2020 on Jan 31, 2021 8:18:29 GMT
Wimbledon have sacked Hodges. Decisive move after a poor run of results. They backed him to the hilt as a club.
Hodges last 12 league games:
Played 12 W 1 D 2 L 9 = 5 points out of 36
Tisdale last 12 league games:
Played 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 = 11 points out of 36
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 31, 2021 8:21:20 GMT
Wimbledon have sacked Hodges. Decisive move after a poor run of results. They backed him to the hilt as a club. Hodges last 12 league games: Played 12 W 1 D 2 L 9 = 5 points out of 36 Tisdale last 12 league games: Played 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 = 11 points out of 36 I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove there as that’s a smaller haul than PT is achieving. With the sh** the club put up with under Garner last season PT isn’t going any time soon. Not sure I’d be fussed either way if he did. I don’t think chopping and changing managers is the solution. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Jan 31, 2021 8:36:59 GMT
Wimbledon have sacked Hodges. Decisive move after a poor run of results. They backed him to the hilt as a club. Hodges last 12 league games: Played 12 W 1 D 2 L 9 = 5 points out of 36 Tisdale last 12 league games: Played 12 W 3 D 2 L 7 = 11 points out of 36 I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove there as that’s a smaller haul than PT is achieving. With the sh** the club put up with under Garner last season PT isn’t going any time soon. Not sure I’d be fussed either way if he did. I don’t think chopping and changing managers is the solution. The point is that the record isn’t that different...and it’s worse than Garners! We panic sacked, panic hired and now Wael won’t put his hand in his pocket to back a failing manager. We were working “two windows” ahead with a young, new manager and should have stuck with it. Our young manager should have been backed and let his coaching skills (3 weeks at the quarters!) develop the team further. It is a catastrophic mess! |
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Post by RD on Jan 31, 2021 8:40:57 GMT
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove there as that’s a smaller haul than PT is achieving. With the sh** the club put up with under Garner last season PT isn’t going any time soon. Not sure I’d be fussed either way if he did. I don’t think chopping and changing managers is the solution. The point is that the record isn’t that different...and it’s worse than Garners! We panic sacked, panic hired and now Wael won’t put his hand in his pocket to back a failing manager. We were working “two windows” ahead with a young, new manager and should have stuck with it. Our young manager should have been backed and let his coaching skills (3 weeks at the quarters!) develop the team further. It is a catastrophic mess! if you're seriously suggesting Garner should have been better backed you're clinically insane. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 31, 2021 8:45:57 GMT
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove there as that’s a smaller haul than PT is achieving. With the sh** the club put up with under Garner last season PT isn’t going any time soon. Not sure I’d be fussed either way if he did. I don’t think chopping and changing managers is the solution. The point is that the record isn’t that different...and it’s worse than Garners! We panic sacked, panic hired and now Wael won’t put his hand in his pocket to back a failing manager. We were working “two windows” ahead with a young, new manager and should have stuck with it. Our young manager should have been backed and let his coaching skills (3 weeks at the quarters!) develop the team further. It is a catastrophic mess! Garner got sacked for his first half season as much as the start to this season. His results were over performing vs his capability this season. He had to go - supporters were baying for his blood. The football was still sh** but we didn’t have the results we did under GC. The context between Garners first half season and PTs first handful of games is night and day. Garner took over a team charging towards promotion. Ok maybe we were overachieving, but the form he delivered and the manner of change showed that he is incapable of managing a senior squad. Tisdale has taken over what I would say is an extremely poorly assembled side with insufficient experience, lack of leaders and grit, and with a huge imbalance in the recruitment of given positions. In my eyes, the form under Garner was unforgivable. PTs is extremely disappointing so far but I’m tempted to stick by him until at least the end of the season because where we are isn’t his fault. The assemblage he has inherited isn’t fit for achieving the results we need. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 31, 2021 8:59:34 GMT
The point is that the record isn’t that different...and it’s worse than Garners! We panic sacked, panic hired and now Wael won’t put his hand in his pocket to back a failing manager. We were working “two windows” ahead with a young, new manager and should have stuck with it. Our young manager should have been backed and let his coaching skills (3 weeks at the quarters!) develop the team further. It is a catastrophic mess! Garner got sacked for his first half season as much as the start to this season. His results were over performing vs his capability this season. He had to go - supporters were baying for his blood. The football was still sh** but we didn’t have the results we did under GC. The context between Garners first half season and PTs first handful of games is night and day. Garner took over a team charging towards promotion. Ok maybe we were overachieving, but the form he delivered and the manner of change showed that he is incapable of managing a senior squad. Tisdale has taken over what I would say is an extremely poorly assembled side with insufficient experience, lack of leaders and grit, and with a huge imbalance in the recruitment of given positions. In my eyes, the form under Garner was unforgivable. PTs is extremely disappointing so far but I’m tempted to stick by him until at least the end of the season because where we are isn’t his fault. The assemblage he has inherited isn’t fit for achieving the results we need. Tisdale has only managed one relegation fight when Exeter got relegated with games to spare. I can see what you are getting at but I would like to think that any manager who is worth their salt could come in, even with this group of players and grind out some results by going back to basics and improving some of the basics. But Tisdale has contributed to this mess by his wild team selections and tactics or poor in game management. How anyone one could think that taking off Hanlan when you are 2-1 down is a good idea I don’t know. He made Ozzie a scapegoat yesterday when it was Ozzie who was linking play with Nicholson from the scraps that he was getting. The decision not to bring on LMc and switch the midfield was disastrous. In 12 games not only has there been no improvement, but we have actually gone backwards. I’m not quite sure how you can back a manager who The players won’t listen to. We don’t need a wordsmith, part time journalist management consultant, we need a football manager and right now, we are devoid of leadership in every aspect. |
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Post by Gasshole on Jan 31, 2021 9:07:41 GMT
Just heard Tisdale’s after match report, he’s obviously very frustrated and saying that he needs to get it into the players heads to do the basics and perhaps a conversation isn’t good enough, bloody right it’s not, can you imagine if those 11 players were walking in at half time if Roy Keane was the manager, they all need a massive reality check, and show some character and run for your team mates, there needs to be better and more aggressive communication on the pitch. No way would Keane come here |
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