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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 31, 2021 11:02:57 GMT
Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. FACT we are run from top to bottom on the playing side like a downs team always trying to do it the cheap way and it doesn’t work. Tisdale wasn’t appointed manager for the best interests of the club he was cheap option with no real thought by Wael and co. Those aren't facts, they're opinions. You might be right in many Gas eyes, but it isn't a fact we are run playing team like downs. We're just not that good.. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 31, 2021 11:04:02 GMT
Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. FACT we are run from top to bottom on the playing side like a downs team always trying to do it the cheap way and it doesn’t work. Tisdale wasn’t appointed manager for the best interests of the club he was cheap option with no real thought by Wael and co. FACT putting FACT in front of a statement doesn't make it true. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 11:04:44 GMT
Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. FACT we are run from top to bottom on the playing side like a downs team always trying to do it the cheap way and it doesn’t work. Tisdale wasn’t appointed manager for the best interests of the club he was cheap option with no real thought by Wael and co. FACT - this is all a subjective opinion which if you look at the amount of money spent on players over the last 2 windows and the fact Tisdale is an experienced manager with a strong reputation, his wages would be anything but cheap.... |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jan 31, 2021 11:07:29 GMT
We looked so unorganised yesterday, for both of rochdales goals we had nearly our whole team back behind the ball, where was the talking? Leahy backed off, but harries was behind him marking thin air. Why didn't harries tell him to tackle? Day needs to be more vocal at corners. We are so quiet compared to other sides. No leadership, quiet as mice. That first goal was just so bad, there was so much wrong with it, you could probably blame 3 players and the goalkeeper for that. I do believe we have decent players but as a team, we don't function. Is that down to the manager?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 11:17:32 GMT
We looked so unorganised yesterday, for both of rochdales goals we had nearly our whole team back behind the ball, where was the talking? Leahy backed off, but harries was behind him marking thin air. Why didn't harries tell him to tackle? Day needs to be more vocal at corners. We are so quiet compared to other sides. No leadership, quiet as mice. That first goal was just so bad, there was so much wrong with it, you could probably blame 3 players and the goalkeeper for that. I do believe we have decent players but as a team, we don't function. Is that down to the manager? The same manager was in charge on Tuesday? The players are back to turning up for games when it suits them, I guess not letting JCH get one over on them motivated them on Tuesday? If that's the case you to fear that they won't bother in this week's two games! I guess this proves building a football squad is more than just signing 22 random players. |
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Post by surreygas4 on Jan 31, 2021 11:18:17 GMT
We looked so unorganised yesterday, for both of rochdales goals we had nearly our whole team back behind the ball, where was the talking? Leahy backed off, but harries was behind him marking thin air. Why didn't harries tell him to tackle? Day needs to be more vocal at corners. We are so quiet compared to other sides. No leadership, quiet as mice. That first goal was just so bad, there was so much wrong with it, you could probably blame 3 players and the goalkeeper for that. I do believe we have decent players but as a team, we don't function. Is that down to the manager? agree with everything you've said there but i question your belief that we have decent players. Ultimately after 23 games we are in 19th place having won only 6 games this season and - having watched every game apart from the pizza cup matches - I (sadly) think that we are where we deserve to be based on performances. Maybe we all bought into the forum hype about the summer signings and the claims from the recruitment department that this was the best squad we've ever assembled or whatever rhetoric was said. However, solely based on what we've seen on the pitch, which is all that matters, who has stood out? Nicholson, Daly when fit, oz from time to time. Tutonda at the start for a few games. Hanlan has potential but imo is not a natural finisher or a goalscorer. Honestly, that's about it. Reputation wise we might have 'decent players' but based on the individual performances over the last 20 plus games, im not convinced. I do hope to be proven wrong as relegation to league Two again would be gutting for all of us. |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Jan 31, 2021 11:27:17 GMT
The only good thing to see yesterday was how angry ‘Tis was in his interview.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 11:30:13 GMT
Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. FACT we are run from top to bottom on the playing side like a downs team always trying to do it the cheap way and it doesn’t work. Tisdale wasn’t appointed manager for the best interests of the club he was cheap option with no real thought by Wael and co. FACT - we've appointed a CEO FACT - we've appointed a DOF FACT - we've appointed numerous coaches & medical staff FACT - we've spent £m's building a training complex FACT - BG's was fully supported in the summer and appears to have spent up to the salary cap, we even paid fees for Ayunga and Hanlan and retained the services of the best L1 goalie, I bet Gillingham's & Accrinington's managers would love similar support. FACT - We'll lose £m's again this season even w/o the COVID effect. FACT- you're now repeating GAS365's own "FACT" about Tisdale, none of us really know what went on before he was appointed, if he was second choice to BG why would they need to re-interview him, he's hardly likely to say anything different. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 11:33:04 GMT
We looked so unorganised yesterday, for both of rochdales goals we had nearly our whole team back behind the ball, where was the talking? Leahy backed off, but harries was behind him marking thin air. Why didn't harries tell him to tackle? Day needs to be more vocal at corners. We are so quiet compared to other sides. No leadership, quiet as mice. That first goal was just so bad, there was so much wrong with it, you could probably blame 3 players and the goalkeeper for that. I do believe we have decent players but as a team, we don't function. Is that down to the manager? Ultimately after 23 games we are in 19th place having won only 6 games this season and - having watched every game apart from the pizza cup matches - I (sadly) think that we are where we deserve to be based on performances. Maybe we all bought into the forum hype about the summer signings and the claims from the recruitment department that this was the best squad we've ever assembled or whatever rhetoric was said. However, solely based on what we've seen on the pitch, which is all that matters, who has stood out? Nicholson, Daly when fit, oz from time to time. Tutonda at the start for a few games. Hanlan has potential but imo is not a natural finisher or a goalscorer. Honestly, that's about it. Reputation wise we might have 'decent players' but based on the individual performances over the last 20 plus games, im not convinced. I do hope to be proven wrong as relegation to league Two again would be gutting for all of us. We matched and came nearest to scoring v Peterborough so we can't be that bad, similar to last season we were near the bottom under DC near the top under GC, it's fine margins, like dong the simple things as defending corners! |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jan 31, 2021 11:35:09 GMT
Players like Baldwin Ehmer Kilgore Leahy are all decent, league one players but they are not showing it. In theory that should be the base for a solid team.
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Post by surreygas4 on Jan 31, 2021 11:37:48 GMT
agree with everything you've said there but i question your belief that we have decent players. Ultimately after 23 games we are in 19th place having won only 6 games this season and - having watched every game apart from the pizza cup matches - I (sadly) think that we are where we deserve to be based on performances. Maybe we all bought into the forum hype about the summer signings and the claims from the recruitment department that this was the best squad we've ever assembled or whatever rhetoric was said. However, solely based on what we've seen on the pitch, which is all that matters, who has stood out? Nicholson, Daly when fit, oz from time to time. Tutonda at the start for a few games. Hanlan has potential but imo is not a natural finisher or a goalscorer. Honestly, that's about it. Reputation wise we might have 'decent players' but based on the individual performances over the last 20 plus games, im not convinced. I do hope to be proven wrong as relegation to league Two again would be gutting for all of us. We matched and came nearest to scoring v Peterborough so we can't be that bad, similar to last season we were near the bottom under DC near the top under GC, it's fine margins, like dong the simple things as defending corners! but that's just one game? I understand what you're saying but if it was as simple as just defending corners better - and I agree we need to! - then we wouldn't be hovering above relegation imo. |
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Post by alanrg on Jan 31, 2021 11:38:43 GMT
Out of interest we have conceded 35 goals in the league this season anybody know how many of those goals have come from free kicks and corners
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Jan 31, 2021 11:47:14 GMT
Crewe Charlton Oxford and Rochdale in the last few games. Goals from corners.
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Post by surreygas4 on Jan 31, 2021 11:50:19 GMT
Players like Baldwin Ehmer Kilgore Leahy are all decent, league one players but they are not showing it. In theory that should be the base for a solid team. Alfie has shown in the past that he is a decent league one footballer. Leahy, as a left back/left wing back where you are required to put in work defensively - is not good enough and the second goal yesterday is just one of many examples of that. Great goal but defensively poor. I've never watched much of baldwin and ehmer before they came here - have you? I can only judge the players on their displays for us and on that basis they've been disappointing. In hindsight, i wish we'd kept Craig. At the end of the season it's about points on the board, not who fans think is the best/worst squads on paper. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 31, 2021 12:15:33 GMT
Out of interest we have conceded 35 goals in the league this season anybody know how many of those goals have come from free kicks and corners I was thinking the same yesterday I don’t know the answer but I reckon around half have been from set pieces. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 12:20:19 GMT
Thought I would wait before posting as yesterday evening was not great for any of us.
I thought we were slow to the ball and not for the first time the opposition looked hungrier and fitter.
Our build up play is slow and laborious and breaks down constantly in the final third.
Some of the players give it their all but game after game we are carrying passengers usually the midfield.
Thoughts on the players ..
Day - At fault for the second goal IMO ball went through him and nowhere near vocal enough with his defence.
Williams - Looked ok - Got forward well - relatively solid in defence.
Ehmer - I have heard Church Mice louder. Does not marshall the defence anywhere near well enough.
Kilgour - Ok performance good in the air again
Harries - Cant defend, Cant pass , walks around. Great signing by Garner.
Leahy - Best I have seen him going forward and at times looked a real threat - Cant defend for toffee but we have known that for months. Could he do a job in Midfield ahead of Westbrooke?
Ogogo - Put himself about good bite as usual but I fear we wont see him for at least a month now.
Westbrooke - Waste of space has added little other than from dead ball situations. Passenger.
Oztumher - Poor by his standards - haven't seen anywhere near the best of him yet. At least he wanted the ball.
Hanlan - At times had three men marking him - Lost control of the ball at times when he did break free.
Nicholson - Put in a shift - Good strike that hit the top of the bar.
Grant - Missed Ogogo and was in / out of the game
Ayunga - Awful but he is not a L1 Striker - Couldn't win a header and when six yards out had no sense of mind to poke the ball into the net.
Barrett - Not L1 Standard and may have pulled something as again not involved.
McCormick - Should have started ahead of Westbrooke but when he came on did little in the few minutes he had.
Why we have two players stand together to take a corner - FFS one of you get on the edge of the box waiting for the header out !
None of the substitutions added any value whatsoever - Rochdale brought on a young lad with incredible pace who looked threatening we brought on Ayunga and Barrett.
It feels like we are starting with nine or ten each week - Westbrooke / Harries / Ayunga / Barrett do not cut it for me and I would look to move them on at the first opportunity.
I think some of our youngsters like Cam Hargreaves should be given game time, Dave Tutonda has more energy that most.
Paul Tisdale - Second Manager Appointed by a Chairman who has a vision for the Club - Second error in 12 months - Glad he was angry after the game - let's see how YOU respond on Tuesday, hopefully you will drop some of these underachievers and you have seen enough of a few others to get them gone. That said I don't think he can motivate this squad to be good enough to stay in L1. We have struggled over the last few years and the Relegation Reaper will get you if you hang around there too long ... Tisdale talks eloquently and I was impressed early on but he has run out of excuses now. Wrong choice. Need a manager who is up to date with L1 and who can get the players to carry out basic requirements -
Will we bring in a striker on Monday - Probably not and if we did, it wont be enough as we probably also need a 'Hard as Nails CB and a midfielder who can tackle and distribute.
It's a dog fight between seven or eight clubs to stay up, to be honest I think we will go down and may well deserve to, given the awful squad assembled by Garner and lack of fight and ability to do basic things by the team.
The Fans have been let down badly this season, throw in Garners cock up last season and it has been a very tough 12 months. We keep going though Heaven only knows what I have spent this year - Player Sponsorship, Training Wear / Kits for my Lad / IFollow - but the Gas drug is in my system and we are all slaves to it. I also feel really sorry for Wael - has thrown Millions into the club, is being right royally rogered by the Chairman and Head of Recruitment and will probably have a L2 Club in his portfolio next year.
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Post by RD on Jan 31, 2021 12:24:41 GMT
if you're seriously suggesting Garner should have been better backed you're clinically insane. Tisdale is worse than Garner. He has less points, played key players in pointless cup games leading to injuries, awful tactics, no in game management and no contacts for players to join him. If you can’t see Garner was improving and Tisdale is a failing, downhill no ideas panic important it is you that has the head problems. Utterly delusional. Or you're Ben Garner. Or both. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 12:32:46 GMT
Thought I would wait before posting as yesterday evening was not great for any of us. I thought we were slow to the ball and not for the first time the opposition looked hungrier and fitter. Our build up play is slow and laborious and breaks down constantly in the final third. Some of the players give it their all but game after game we are carrying passengers usually the midfield. Thoughts on the players .. Day - At fault for the second goal IMO ball went through him and nowhere near vocal enough with his defence. Williams - Looked ok - Got forward well - relatively solid in defence. Ehmer - I have heard Church Mice louder. Does not marshall the defence anywhere near well enough. Kilgour - Ok performance good in the air again Harries - Cant defend, Cant pass , walks around. Great signing by Garner. Leahy - Best I have seen him going forward and at times looked a real threat - Cant defend for toffee but we have known that for months. Could he do a job in Midfield ahead of Westbrooke? Ogogo - Put himself about good bite as usual but I fear we wont see him for at least a month now. Westbrooke - Waste of space has added little other than from dead ball situations. Passenger. Oztumher - Poor by his standards - haven't seen anywhere near the best of him yet. At least he wanted the ball. Hanlan - At times had three men marking him - Lost control of the ball at times when he did break free. Nicholson - Put in a shift - Good strike that hit the top of the bar. Grant - Missed Ogogo and was in / out of the game Ayunga - Awful but he is not a L1 Striker - Couldn't win a header and when six yards out had no sense of mind to poke the ball into the net. Barrett - Not L1 Standard and may have pulled something as again not involved. McCormick - Should have started ahead of Westbrooke but when he came on did little in the few minutes he had. Why we have two players stand together to take a corner - FFS one of you get on the edge of the box waiting for the header out ! None of the substitutions added any value whatsoever - Rochdale brought on a young lad with incredible pace who looked threatening we brought on Ayunga and Barrett. It feels like we are starting with nine or ten each week - Westbrooke / Harries / Ayunga / Barrett do not cut it for me and I would look to move them on at the first opportunity. I think some of our youngsters like Cam Hargreaves should be given game time, Dave Tutonda has more energy that most. Paul Tisdale - Second Manager Appointed by a Chairman who has a vision for the Club - Second error in 12 months - Glad he was angry after the game - let's see how YOU respond on Tuesday, hopefully you will drop some of these underachievers and you have seen enough of a few others to get them gone. That said I don't think he can motivate this squad to be good enough to stay in L1. We have struggled over the last few years and the Relegation Reaper will get you if you hang around there too long ... Tisdale talks eloquently and I was impressed early on but he has run out of excuses now. Wrong choice. Need a manager who is up to date with L1 and who can get the players to carry out basic requirements - Will we bring in a striker on Monday - Probably not and if we did, it wont be enough as we probably also need a 'Hard as Nails CB and a midfielder who can tackle and distribute. It's a dog fight between seven or eight clubs to stay up, to be honest I think we will go down and may well deserve to, given the awful squad assembled by Garner and lack of fight and ability to do basic things by the team. The Fans have been let down badly this season, throw in Garners cock up last season and it has been a very tough 12 months. We keep going though Heaven only knows what I have spent this year - Player Sponsorship, Training Wear / Kits for my Lad / IFollow - but the Gas drug is in my system and we are all slaves to it. I also feel really sorry for Wael - has thrown Millions into the club, is being right royally rogered by the Chairman and Head of Recruitment and will probably have a L2 Club in his portfolio next year. Nothing changes it’s the same every game and I totally agree with you PT wrong appointment. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Jan 31, 2021 12:49:43 GMT
Fact - the results are worse under Tisdale than yet were under garner. Fact - garner didn’t sign four left backs he signed two. Koiki and Tutonda. Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts. They wanted to leave. Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. “Systematically destroyed”. The club were in absolutely no position to go into the championship. The training situation was a joke, the ground isn’t up to it and none of the infrastructure behind the scenes was in place. It was widely reported the club was losing £65k plus a week and had lots of plus 30 year old players on big wages for a club of our size and no resale value. Recruiting Garner and ripping the squad up was quite clearly a club plan from the owner downwards to create a sustainable, well run football club with proper infrastructure from academy upwards. Bring in young players that can be coached and improved, on lower salaries, with potential resale values for a profit whilst simultaneously cutting the wage bill and outgoing transfer expenditure. Of course there would be some short term pain. Of course there would be ups and downs but the plan had to be backed and followed through. The wage bill reduced, net spend reduced and the average age reduced under Garner. At the same time we added analysts / nutritionists and moved to the new training ground. The results so far were more than good enough to stay in the league (playing more than a fair share of the top teams and beating the teams around us). However, so many couldn’t wait to tear Garner to bits. He was on a. Hiding to nothing as you can’t rip the whole plan up and start again without a drop in performance. The long term outcome could have been a massive step forward but the same fans that hated on GC style of football were the same fans hating on Garner. Can you not see the owner is not going to throw money at sh** football, buying old journeyman and no visible plan or way forward. |
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Post by surreygas4 on Jan 31, 2021 13:00:34 GMT
Fact - Results worse under Tis but he has only recruited 2 players of his own. The rest are inherited by DC GC and BG. He has only had 1 transfer window, BG had 2 whole windows. Fact - garner didn't sign four left backs he signed two..... with the knowledge we ALREADY had 2 left backs!? Fact - Clarke and JCH were both offered new contracts....true, but in case of OC it was much reduced. So much so, Mansfield in comparison literally offered him a contract he couldn't refuse. JCH I'm not aware of, but BG went on record saying he had no intention of replacing like for like (!) We haven't learned the lesson of replacing Lambo and it's no surprise we are where we are because of our lack of scoring goals. Relegation beckoned then, it's beckoning now. Brentford recruited before selling. Peterborough recruited before selling. We .... Um.... Didn't. Our defence is poor, but not statistically the worse in this division. Ehmer and Baldwin were recruited with most here approval. For me, they've both underperformed to their expectations. Especially, Ehmer.. I admire anyone's loyalty, especially in face of adversity, well done Carlts but BG systematically destroyed 5 years of hard work and potential rise to the Championship. BG has put us back years. “Systematically destroyed”. The club were in absolutely no position to go into the championship. The training situation was a joke, the ground isn’t up to it and none of the infrastructure behind the scenes was in place. It was widely reported the club was losing £65k plus a week and had lots of plus 30 year old players on big wages for a club of our size and no resale value. Recruiting Garner and ripping the squad up was quite clearly a club plan from the owner downwards to create a sustainable, well run football club with proper infrastructure from academy upwards. Bring in young players that can be coached and improved, on lower salaries, with potential resale values for a profit whilst simultaneously cutting the wage bill and outgoing transfer expenditure. Of course there would be some short term pain. Of course there would be ups and downs but the plan had to be backed and followed through. The wage bill reduced, net spend reduced and the average age reduced under Garner. At the same time we added analysts / nutritionists and moved to the new training ground. The results so far were more than good enough to stay in the league (playing more than a fair share of the top teams and beating the teams around us). However, so many couldn’t wait to tear Garner to bits. He was on a. Hiding to nothing as you can’t rip the whole plan up and start again without a drop in performance. The long term outcome could have been a massive step forward but the same fans that hated on GC style of football were the same fans hating on Garner. Can you not see the owner is not going to throw money at sh** football, buying old journeyman and no visible plan or way forward. "the results so far were more than good enough to stay in the league". Brilliant. Love this. Since he was appointed at the beginning of 2020 to when he was sacked, he must have had the worst managerial record in all of the UK's professional divisions?! Football was poor and results were poor. Recruitment was shocking. Balance of the squad was a mess. The number of points BG got in his time says it all. When he was sacked after the appalling performance against fleetwood he had won three out of 11 games. In total, he won 6 out of 33 matches! |
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