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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 13:54:38 GMT
The biggest concern for me is the complete lack of progress. Defensively we are just as abysmal as under Garner and we're still pretty toothless going forward. Team selections are bizarre at times and his in-game decision making seems completely crazy and very slow. All very, very worrying signs. I mean, i think McC is our best player and he's been on the bench the last few games. Hargreaves has always looked lively and gives 100% and yet can't get a look in. What's worse is Exeter fans warned us about all of this. It really does look like they were right (which isn't surprising - they probably know him better than anyone including his parents and wife!) Team selections are hardly bizarre, he's not tried a CH upfront yet(!), yesterday's team is more or less the one we would have all chosen. Exeter fans are like Charlton fans whining about Curbishley, what have they achieved since he left? I can't see defenders not being able to do the basics is due to PT not being able to manage at L1?
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Post by garythegas on Jan 31, 2021 14:23:48 GMT
When Garner was sacked I dont think anyone could question the decision, his signings left us with a totally unbalanced squad. His after match interviews were cringeworthy and results and performances were dire. However the appointment of PT was and is proving to be a disaster. Our CEO was obviously behind the decision as I doubt Wael had even heard of him, and why was Starnes in such a rush to get a manager who been sacked after less than 3 months when he was last in div 1,his only experience at this level.PT is out of his depth as was BG ,as many on here have said, he is so defensive it really is only a matter of time before we concede. Yes the squad is lacking options up front and that is not Tisdales fault but the few successes we have had under him have been playing 4-4-2,so why have we now gone back to 5 at the back. I never thought I would say this but I,m sure if BG was still in charge we would have a least 6 more points on the board. Hindsight is a wonderful thing I know but with relegation now a distinct possibility I wonder if Starnes should be taking responsibility for this mess?.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 31, 2021 14:32:51 GMT
The biggest concern for me is the complete lack of progress. Defensively we are just as abysmal as under Garner and we're still pretty toothless going forward. Team selections are bizarre at times and his in-game decision making seems completely crazy and very slow. All very, very worrying signs. I mean, i think McC is our best player and he's been on the bench the last few games. Hargreaves has always looked lively and gives 100% and yet can't get a look in. What's worse is Exeter fans warned us about all of this. It really does look like they were right (which isn't surprising - they probably know him better than anyone including his parents and wife!) Team selections are hardly bizarre, he's not tried a CH upfront yet(!), yesterday's team is more or less the one we would have all chosen. Exeter fans are like Charlton fans whining about Curbishley, what have they achieved since he left? I can't see defenders not being able to do the basics is due to PT not being able to manage at L1? It's bizarre to me that we seemed to be making some progress with 4 at the back with good wins and performances against Wimbledon and Plymouth only to revert to a back 5 which hasn't worked all season.
It's also bizarre that Westbrooke despite being a passenger in most games gets picked ahead of McCormick who has been one of our best players.
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Post by wertongas on Jan 31, 2021 15:00:10 GMT
Perhaps we need to bring Davies back from Barrow, when he played alongside Kilgour the two of them formed a solid defensive partnership, I know there was allot of hype from fans when we signed Ehmer but I have yet to see him put in a solid performance, and let's be honest kilgour has had to carry the rest of our central defence recently. I thought Leahy was our best player against Rochdale but if he is going to push that far forward then there needs to be another defender covering for him. With the amount of quality balls into the box from him we should have got more goals yesterday but Hanlan is knackered with playing 3 games in 8 days for the last few weeks, he has lost his sharpness and Ayunga is far to slow, crosses have passed him by, by the time he has got anywhere near them. Don't see the point of playing him or Barrett who is also to slow, but will be glad to see Daly back.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 15:35:07 GMT
Team selections are hardly bizarre, he's not tried a CH upfront yet(!), yesterday's team is more or less the one we would have all chosen. Exeter fans are like Charlton fans whining about Curbishley, what have they achieved since he left? I can't see defenders not being able to do the basics is due to PT not being able to manage at L1? It's bizarre to me that we seemed to be making some progress with 4 at the back with good wins and performances against Wimbledon and Plymouth only to revert to a back 5 which hasn't worked all season.
It's also bizarre that Westbrooke despite being a passenger in most games gets picked ahead of McCormick who has been one of our best players. We lost 3 in a week with 4 at the back, given we put in a good defensive show re Peterborough would any of us have been happy if PT had reverted to 4 at the back? Regardless not sure the formation is the issue with defenders not doing the basics at corners etc. Not sure what's going on with McC but none of youngsters are now being picked now, Tutonda (league experience wise), Kioki, Hargreaves areno longer get game time, with Liddle not even making the squad.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 15:37:25 GMT
Perhaps we need to bring Davies back from Barrow, when he played alongside Kilgour the two of them formed a solid defensive partnership, I know there was allot of hype from fans when we signed Ehmer but I have yet to see him put in a solid performance, and let's be honest kilgour has had to carry the rest of our central defence recently. I thought Leahy was our best player against Rochdale but if he is going to push that far forward then there needs to be another defender covering for him. With the amount of quality balls into the box from him we should have got more goals yesterday but Hanlan is knackered with playing 3 games in 8 days for the last few weeks, he has lost his sharpness and Ayunga is far to slow, crosses have passed him by, by the time he has got anywhere near them. Don't see the point of playing him or Barrett who is also to slow, but will be glad to see Daly back. If Hanlan's knackered how can PT not play Ayunga? Although I think he's trying to get PT sacked as I'm sure he looked a better player under BG/before his injury.
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Post by axegas on Jan 31, 2021 15:55:57 GMT
We’re in this odd position where I think everyone is discontented with the squad of players that we currently possess but with January being a notoriously difficult time to perform a squad overhaul and less than 48 hours left to do business, it looks like we’re going to have to limp home with what we have, whether that means safety or not.
What was most worrying for me about yesterday’s performance is that we had arguably our strongest team on paper available to us, no injuries, no suspensions and the two main recurring themes of this season still occurred. We let in two very soft goals and failed to exert any considerable pressure on the shaky defence Rochdale possessed.
It’s clear that one striker won’t solve all the answers to our problems so we’re going to have to hope that Tisdale finds a style of playing that suits the current set of players and that the defenders work damn hard on the training ground to get better at defending set pieces. We’re not down yet, but play consistently like we did against Rochdale and we will be.
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Post by bigal40 on Jan 31, 2021 16:01:55 GMT
Pretty much our strongest side today. Totally exposed, no signs of any improvement from garner, hasn’t signed any forward thinking players. Tisdale has to walk. If you can’t win at home to Rochdale just as well pack it in. New to this board but totally agree this fella needs to do the decent thing and walk. His man management from afar looks appealing. Hargreaves must not know if he is coming or going, Westbrook looks totally shot to pieces. His rant about standard football seems to me like he has nothing constructive he can say to put the situation right. If he stays we go down simple !!
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Post by bigal40 on Jan 31, 2021 16:02:57 GMT
Pretty much our strongest side today. Totally exposed, no signs of any improvement from garner, hasn’t signed any forward thinking players. Tisdale has to walk. If you can’t win at home to Rochdale just as well pack it in. New to this board but totally agree this fella needs to do the decent thing and walk. His man management from afar looks appealing. Hargreaves must not know if he is coming or going, Westbrook looks totally shot to pieces. His rant about standard football seems to me like he has nothing constructive he can say to put the situation right. If he stays we go down simple !! Appalling not appealing lol
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Post by blueridge on Jan 31, 2021 16:03:03 GMT
We’re in this odd position where I think everyone is discontented with the squad of players that we currently possess but with January being a notoriously difficult time to perform a squad overhaul and less than 48 hours left to do business, it looks like we’re going to have to limp home with what we have, whether that means safety or not. What was most worrying for me about yesterday’s performance is that we had arguably our strongest team on paper available to us, no injuries, no suspensions and the two main recurring themes of this season still occurred. We let in two very soft goals and failed to exert any considerable pressure on the shaky defence Rochdale possessed. It’s clear that one striker won’t solve all the answers to our problems so we’re going to have to hope that Tisdale founds a style of playing that suits the current set of players and that the defenders work damn hard on the training ground to get better at defending set pieces. We’re not down yet, but play consistently like we did against Rochdale and we will be. If you've got the wrong ingredients you're never going to bake a good cake.
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Post by axegas on Jan 31, 2021 16:07:42 GMT
We’re in this odd position where I think everyone is discontented with the squad of players that we currently possess but with January being a notoriously difficult time to perform a squad overhaul and less than 48 hours left to do business, it looks like we’re going to have to limp home with what we have, whether that means safety or not. What was most worrying for me about yesterday’s performance is that we had arguably our strongest team on paper available to us, no injuries, no suspensions and the two main recurring themes of this season still occurred. We let in two very soft goals and failed to exert any considerable pressure on the shaky defence Rochdale possessed. It’s clear that one striker won’t solve all the answers to our problems so we’re going to have to hope that Tisdale founds a style of playing that suits the current set of players and that the defenders work damn hard on the training ground to get better at defending set pieces. We’re not down yet, but play consistently like we did against Rochdale and we will be. If you've got the wrong ingredients you're never going to bake a good cake. True, but I don’t think we’re aiming to be a “Good cake” for the rest of this season, we’re aiming to be a mediocre bland cake that can pick up a few crucial wins against the teams around us to get ourselves out of trouble. At the moment the bottom is soggy and the iced decoration all wonky, but Tisdale has the ingredients in his kitchen to make it at least look presentable.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 31, 2021 16:08:37 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 17:27:34 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position How could he know the experienced players couldn't do even the basics right? Although if any of us were unemployed would we turn down a decent job offer, posters saying he should walk are just talking nonsense, as nobody walks away from a decent contract in this age. Even if he did walk, or was dismissed, who's available who can do a better job with such a disjointed squad.
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Post by LJG on Jan 31, 2021 18:30:54 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position How could he know the experienced players couldn't do even the basics right? Although if any of us were unemployed would we turn down a decent job offer, posters saying he should walk are just talking nonsense, as nobody walks away from a decent contract in this age. Even if he did walk, or was dismissed, who's available who can do a better job with such a disjointed squad. I think he thought of himself more as self-employed rather than unemployed.
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Post by stapletongas on Jan 31, 2021 18:36:34 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position I don't think this is any reflection on Tisdale, it just goes to show what a crap, inexperienced, imbalanced squad Garner put together. It takes transfer windows to sort this mess out, January is always a dead loss, so it's hang on till the summer and hope for the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 18:42:53 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position I don't think this is any reflection on Tisdale, it just goes to show what a crap, inexperienced, imbalanced squad Garner put together. It takes transfer windows to sort this mess out, January is always a dead loss, so it's hang on till the summer and hope for the best. We’ve picked up less points against worse opposition since Tisdale came in with the same players. That is a reflection on him
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 18:45:06 GMT
PT knew what he was working with when he took the job. If he couldn't hack it he shouldn't have applied/accepted the position I don't think this is any reflection on Tisdale, it just goes to show what a crap, inexperienced, imbalanced squad Garner put together. It takes transfer windows to sort this mess out, January is always a dead loss, so it's hang on till the summer and hope for the best. Agree but he could help himself by sticking to a formation and style of play - and by now have a better idea of the bulk of his starting XI. He’s asking the players to do the basic things better so perhaps he should keep things simple himself?
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Post by yategasman on Jan 31, 2021 18:48:55 GMT
My fear is if we are below “The Line” at the end of the February fixtures we are gonna struggle to stay in League One but we will see 🙏🏻
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 18:57:56 GMT
I don't think this is any reflection on Tisdale, it just goes to show what a crap, inexperienced, imbalanced squad Garner put together. It takes transfer windows to sort this mess out, January is always a dead loss, so it's hang on till the summer and hope for the best. We’ve picked up less points against worse opposition since Tisdale came in with the same players. That is a reflection on him PT has lost Jaakola, probably one of the best goalies in L1 plus Daly, Ozt and Nicholson who was probably our best player when he was injured, so he hardly had the same players, when Nicholson picked up his injury we'd just won 4 games out of 5!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 19:00:41 GMT
How could he know the experienced players couldn't do even the basics right? Although if any of us were unemployed would we turn down a decent job offer, posters saying he should walk are just talking nonsense, as nobody walks away from a decent contract in this age. Even if he did walk, or was dismissed, who's available who can do a better job with such a disjointed squad. I think he thought of himself more as self-employed rather than unemployed. Whatever he was doing I doubt he was earning anything like he is now as a football manager.
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