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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 9:18:04 GMT
What’s that got to do with sacking the GK coach? I would expect all our keepers to keep a clean sheet against a team that hasn’t scored in 6 games. In fact I’d expect most of us on here to do so. On the staff, Starnes made a statement in the media that the new manager would be expected to work with the existing staff. “Starnes added the club would "certainly resist" a prospective manager's requests to add to or alter the coaching staff. "We are just looking to bring in one person because the coaching staff have done a good job for us," he continued.” Have you ever posted anything that was in support of the club? Istm all you post is pro BG stuff or (presumably because of your pro BG agenda) anti PT stuff. Makes me think you're not really a Gashead. Also I'd suggest BG is in the past, and you might want to let it go. None of the above relates to BG. The post is about our CEO stating we won’t change the backroom staff and then changing the backroom staff. It is also about us losing a very experienced GK coach out of the blue which clearly has some sort of issue relating to it based on the social media / LinkedIn posts by various people. Finally, unless we learn our mistakes from previous actions this club will never go forward. Sacking BG was a terrible move followed by replacing him with a manager that has taken us into the relegation zone. For every post on here blaming BG there will be people like me saying the opposite. Blaming Garner for Tisdale results is verging on ridiculous. No one have credit to Garner for the 3 wins on the bounce Tisdale had in the league in December. The board bottled the best opportunity we had in years to be a well run, professional club on and off the pitch and followed it up by employing someone without a proper due diligence and interview process that is clearly not up to the job. The current form and results sit with the board, the poor transfer window sits with the board and the current mess of coaches leaving and our captain writing apology letters sit with the board. It’s high time they took some responsibility. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 7, 2021 9:22:57 GMT
In case you've overlooked it Day kept a clean sheet yesterday and brought off a brilliant save. I'm not really what the obsession is on Gaschat with analysing every decision PT makes, if he binned all the present coaching staff and brought in all his own men, which isn't unusual, there's nothing we can do about it. What’s that got to do with sacking the GK coach? I would expect all our keepers to keep a clean sheet against a team that hasn’t scored in 6 games. In fact I’d expect most of us on here to do so. On the staff, Starnes made a statement in the media that the new manager would be expected to work with the existing staff. “Starnes added the club would "certainly resist" a prospective manager's requests to add to or alter the coaching staff. "We are just looking to bring in one person because the coaching staff have done a good job for us," he continued.” I can't imagine many of us pulling off the save Day made yesterday, which suggests to me you didn't even watch the match or you wouldn't have been such a ludicrous comment. Regardless where does it state anywhere Coles was sacked? All we know is the official version is for "family reasons" if that's not really the case then I doubt Coles is going to tell the world the real reason he's left. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 7, 2021 9:26:38 GMT
Have you ever posted anything that was in support of the club? Istm all you post is pro BG stuff or (presumably because of your pro BG agenda) anti PT stuff. Makes me think you're not really a Gashead. Also I'd suggest BG is in the past, and you might want to let it go. None of the above relates to BG. The post is about our CEO stating we won’t change the backroom staff and then changing the backroom staff. It is also about us losing a very experienced GK coach out of the blue which clearly has some sort of issue relating to it based on the social media / LinkedIn posts by various people. Finally, unless we learn our mistakes from previous actions this club will never go forward. Sacking BG was a terrible move followed by replacing him with a manager that has taken us into the relegation zone. For every post on here blaming BG there will be people like me saying the opposite. Blaming Garner for Tisdale results is verging on ridiculous. No one have credit to Garner for the 3 wins on the bounce Tisdale had in the league in December. The board bottled the best opportunity we had in years to be a well run, professional club on and off the pitch and followed it up by employing someone without a proper due diligence and interview process that is clearly not up to the job. The current form and results sit with the board, the poor transfer window sits with the board and the current mess of coaches leaving and our captain writing apology letters sit with the board. It’s high time they took some responsibility. Yeah, read the whole sentence, instead of just taking a few words out of the sentence. As I said, you just don't come across as a Gashead, you just come across as a very limited agenda poster who just posts about your one agenda that has little to do with supporting the team generally. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 9:46:13 GMT
None of the above relates to BG. The post is about our CEO stating we won’t change the backroom staff and then changing the backroom staff. It is also about us losing a very experienced GK coach out of the blue which clearly has some sort of issue relating to it based on the social media / LinkedIn posts by various people. Finally, unless we learn our mistakes from previous actions this club will never go forward. Sacking BG was a terrible move followed by replacing him with a manager that has taken us into the relegation zone. For every post on here blaming BG there will be people like me saying the opposite. Blaming Garner for Tisdale results is verging on ridiculous. No one have credit to Garner for the 3 wins on the bounce Tisdale had in the league in December. The board bottled the best opportunity we had in years to be a well run, professional club on and off the pitch and followed it up by employing someone without a proper due diligence and interview process that is clearly not up to the job. The current form and results sit with the board, the poor transfer window sits with the board and the current mess of coaches leaving and our captain writing apology letters sit with the board. It’s high time they took some responsibility. Yeah, read the whole sentence, instead of just taking a few words out of the sentence. As I said, you just don't come across as a Gashead, you just come across as a very limited agenda poster who just posts about your one agenda that has little to do with supporting the team generally. Sorry but that’s not true. I regularly post positive things about the team when they are relevant. I’m a big fan of Kevin Maher, McCormick, Westbrooke, Baldwin, Harries, Daly, Hanlan and Nicholson. I also respect what GC did for us and think he was treated terribly when he left. My posts are very much focussed on the board, the treatment of BG and the poor recruitment process and hiring of managers and players and our horrendous turn of form which is largely due to the board. It’s down to the board because they bought 10 or so players to be coached and managed by a certain manager. The results and points gained showed progress with these players. The board then knee jerk sacked the manager and employed someone, without an interview / recruitment process who, despite being a “football scholar” didn’t even know the players names! Are you not angry about any of this? Or are you so blinded by moaning about BG costing us a play off place that you can’t see the wood from the trees? We have 0.33 points per game from our last 6 games! We haven’t won a game of football in 9 games and have lost 10 games in 18 since PT came in. He has 700 games under his belt it’s not his first job. That’s my agenda right there |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 7, 2021 10:03:27 GMT
Yeah, read the whole sentence, instead of just taking a few words out of the sentence. As I said, you just don't come across as a Gashead, you just come across as a very limited agenda poster who just posts about your one agenda that has little to do with supporting the team generally. Sorry but that’s not true. I regularly post positive things about the team when they are relevant. I’m a big fan of Kevin Maher, McCormick, Westbrooke, Baldwin, Harries, Daly, Hanlan and Nicholson. I also respect what GC did for us and think he was treated terribly when he left. My posts are very much focussed on the board, the treatment of BG and the poor recruitment process and hiring of managers and players and our horrendous turn of form which is largely due to the board. It’s down to the board because they bought 10 or so players to be coached and managed by a certain manager. The results and points gained showed progress with these players. The board then knee jerk sacked the manager and employed someone, without an interview / recruitment process who, despite being a “football scholar” didn’t even know the players names! Are you not angry about any of this? Or are you so blinded by moaning about BG costing us a play off place that you can’t see the wood from the trees? We have 0.33 points per game from our last 6 games! We haven’t won a game of football in 9 games and have lost 10 games in 18 since PT came in. He has 700 games under his belt it’s not his first job. That’s my agenda right there It's gone, though, hasn't it? Your man ain't coming back. Weird that you weren't all over this forum whining about BG when he had 0.33 points per game, and you weren't selectively quoting stats to show him in the worst light, then. I never said (or thought) BG cost us a play off place, not sure what you're talking about there. Re. being angry at Rovers, in the scheme of things, even over the last twenty years, the BG debacle doesn't even come in the top ten. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 10:13:15 GMT
Sorry but that’s not true. I regularly post positive things about the team when they are relevant. I’m a big fan of Kevin Maher, McCormick, Westbrooke, Baldwin, Harries, Daly, Hanlan and Nicholson. I also respect what GC did for us and think he was treated terribly when he left. My posts are very much focussed on the board, the treatment of BG and the poor recruitment process and hiring of managers and players and our horrendous turn of form which is largely due to the board. It’s down to the board because they bought 10 or so players to be coached and managed by a certain manager. The results and points gained showed progress with these players. The board then knee jerk sacked the manager and employed someone, without an interview / recruitment process who, despite being a “football scholar” didn’t even know the players names! Are you not angry about any of this? Or are you so blinded by moaning about BG costing us a play off place that you can’t see the wood from the trees? We have 0.33 points per game from our last 6 games! We haven’t won a game of football in 9 games and have lost 10 games in 18 since PT came in. He has 700 games under his belt it’s not his first job. That’s my agenda right there It's gone, though, hasn't it? Your man ain't coming back. Weird that you weren't all over this forum whining about BG when he had 0.33 points per game, and you weren't selectively quoting stats to show him in the worst light, then. I never said (or thought) BG cost us a play off place, not sure what you're talking about there. Re. being angry at Rovers, in the scheme of things, even over the last twenty years, the BG debacle doesn't even come in the top ten. I wasn’t on the forum then. However, in my circle of mates we discussed how BG was improving so if I was on here I would have posted something like this: BG first 13 games PPG = 0.54 BG last 12 games PPG = 1.25 BG last 8 games PPG = 1.38 Give me PT version of this. Show me anything that shows me sacking BG and hiring PT was anything but an abomination and a gutless move from two board members that see saving their jobs as more important than the football club. The board (Starnes and Widdrington) Have their own interests at heart. If Wael loses interest this club goes to the wall you know that don’t you? He wants young players and a sustainable football club. What has he got now? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 7, 2021 10:41:34 GMT
It's gone, though, hasn't it? Your man ain't coming back. Weird that you weren't all over this forum whining about BG when he had 0.33 points per game, and you weren't selectively quoting stats to show him in the worst light, then. I never said (or thought) BG cost us a play off place, not sure what you're talking about there. Re. being angry at Rovers, in the scheme of things, even over the last twenty years, the BG debacle doesn't even come in the top ten. I wasn’t on the forum then. However, in my circle of mates we discussed how BG was improving so if I was on here I would have posted something like this: BG first 13 games PPG = 0.54 BG last 12 games PPG = 1.25 BG last 8 games PPG = 1.38 Give me PT version of this. Show me anything that shows me sacking BG and hiring PT was anything but an abomination and a gutless move from two board members that see saving their jobs as more important than the football club. The board (Starnes and Widdrington) Have their own interests at heart. If Wael loses interest this club goes to the wall you know that don’t you? He wants young players and a sustainable football club. What has he got now? I was one of the only a very few people on here saying that he shouldn't have been sacked when he was, so not really sure why you're posting that. But I am saying now, it's done. it's over. it's happened. It's gone. It's over and done with. It's had its day. It's an ex-pirate. It's pining for the fnords. Time to support PT. While you weren't on this forum, and discussing stats selectively with your mates, we've had waves and waves of people posting that the club is in danger because of (that thing they want). It's bullshit and its disingenuous. I agree the club might be in danger, but it's not (that thing you want) saving us, most especially if that thing you want is to big up about BG's stats. Presumably you were at the board meeting where Starnes and Widdrington bullied Wael into sacking Garner even though he was doing great. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 10:52:50 GMT
I wasn’t on the forum then. However, in my circle of mates we discussed how BG was improving so if I was on here I would have posted something like this: BG first 13 games PPG = 0.54 BG last 12 games PPG = 1.25 BG last 8 games PPG = 1.38 Give me PT version of this. Show me anything that shows me sacking BG and hiring PT was anything but an abomination and a gutless move from two board members that see saving their jobs as more important than the football club. The board (Starnes and Widdrington) Have their own interests at heart. If Wael loses interest this club goes to the wall you know that don’t you? He wants young players and a sustainable football club. What has he got now? I was one of the only a very few people on here saying that he shouldn't have been sacked when he was, so not really sure why you're posting that. But I am saying now, it's done. it's over. it's happened. It's gone. It's over and done with. It's had its day. It's an ex-pirate. It's pining for the fnords. Time to support PT. While you weren't on this forum, and discussing stats selectively with your mates, we've had waves and waves of people posting that the club is in danger because of (that thing they want). It's bullshit and its disingenuous. I agree the club might be in danger, but it's not (that thing you want) saving us, most especially if that thing you want is to big up about BG's stats. Presumably you were at the board meeting where Starnes and Widdrington bullied Wael into sacking Garner even though he was doing great. Comparing stats between our two recent managers who have both managed us in the current season is completely relevant to the thread OP about whether Tisdale should be sacked or not. The comparison of stats show that the board have got it horrendously wrong and should be accountable. Sacking a manager who was on course for 50 points plus with an average of 1.1 to 1.38 points per game no matter which way you carve it and replacing him with a manager on course for relegation with a PPG of 0.85 after 13 league games is a massive failure abs dereliction of duty. The board sacked a manager in November with no threat of relegation and appointed another whose results have been far worse and led us into relegation. I am comparing apples for apples. Same season, same players, same conditions, same league. Any other business and the board would be fired. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 7, 2021 10:59:00 GMT
I was one of the only a very few people on here saying that he shouldn't have been sacked when he was, so not really sure why you're posting that. But I am saying now, it's done. it's over. it's happened. It's gone. It's over and done with. It's had its day. It's an ex-pirate. It's pining for the fnords. Time to support PT. While you weren't on this forum, and discussing stats selectively with your mates, we've had waves and waves of people posting that the club is in danger because of (that thing they want). It's bullshit and its disingenuous. I agree the club might be in danger, but it's not (that thing you want) saving us, most especially if that thing you want is to big up about BG's stats. Presumably you were at the board meeting where Starnes and Widdrington bullied Wael into sacking Garner even though he was doing great. Comparing stats between our two recent managers who have both managed us in the current season is completely relevant to the thread OP about whether Tisdale should be sacked or not. The comparison of stats show that the board have got it horrendously wrong and should be accountable. Sacking a manager who was on course for 50 points plus with an average of 1.1 to 1.38 points per game no matter which way you carve it and replacing him with a manager on course for relegation with a PPG of 0.85 after 13 league games is a massive failure abs dereliction of duty. The board sacked a manager in November with no threat of relegation and appointed another whose results have been far worse and led us into relegation. I am comparing apples for apples. Same season, same players, same conditions, same league. Any other business and the board would be fired. It's not apples to apples. It's not even apples to oranges. You're comparing stats for someone who took over a successful side, to someone who took over a failing side. And when you're not doing that you're comparing stats for someone who had been at the club a year and picked their own squad to someone who has just taken over someone else's squad. And when you're not doing that you're pulling stats for a poor run and comparing them to someone else's best run. It's disingenuous. And it's especially disingenuous coz you seem to be claiming that there is some sort of objective standard to you cherry picking of stats. I'm gonna take it (as you didn't answer) that you were at that board meeting, it's just that you're not allowed to talk about it, right? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 7, 2021 11:00:22 GMT
It's no good debating with Carts as he/she only chose to join this forum in a time when PT form has taken a downturn, and regurgitation of the chosen history stat BG 1.38 PPG.
He/she won't address the apparent lack of understanding of how a game lives and breathes in live time by like for like changes in sub forms on or around 69minutes.
He/she won't address the frankly baffling and sometimes insulting post match interview.
He/she won't address the 'we aren't looking to replace jch' philosophy. And we wonder why we can't score goals?
He/she won't address the giving contracts of 3 left back positions when we've already got Leahy, whom at one time was top goalscorer (and was subsequently dropped!), and now ever-present.
Management in football is so much more than stats.
Carlts posts are interesting. It's always nice to see things from a different perspective. I give credit for Carlts admittance of Southend....a modern day Braintree.... and give credit to BG for giving TN a chance and swiftly moving on from it.... but the ultimate stat which no one can argue with is: after 5 years of hard work in forming a team and squad capable of challenging for promotion, possibly for the first time in 30 years, BG took us from 4th to relegation threatened. And that's unacceptable, no matter what b s long term agenda anyone wants to spout.
Back on topic..... around 40% say BG should go now. With a hefty majority in support and willing to give it time.
Maybe we should all be asked to vote again, this time a people's vote?
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 11:13:37 GMT
It's no good debating with Carts as he/she only chose to join this forum in a time when PT form has taken a downturn, and regurgitation of the chosen history stat BG 1.38 PPG. He/she won't address the apparent lack of understanding of how a game lives and breathes in live time by like for like changes in sub forms on or around 69minutes. He/she won't address the frankly baffling and sometimes insulting post match interview. He/she won't address the 'we aren't looking to replace jch' philosophy. And we wonder why we can't score goals? He/she won't address the giving contracts of 3 left back positions when we've already got Leahy, whom at one time was top goalscorer (and was subsequently dropped!), and now ever-present. Management in football is so much more than stats. Carlts posts are interesting. It's always nice to see things from a different perspective. I give credit for Carlts admittance of Southend....a modern day Braintree.... and give credit to BG for giving TN a chance and swiftly moving on from it.... but the ultimate stat which no one can argue with is: after 5 years of hard work in forming a team and squad capable of challenging for promotion, possibly for the first time in 30 years, BG took us from 4th to relegation threatened. And that's unacceptable, no matter what b s long term agenda anyone wants to spout. Back on topic..... around 40% say BG should go now. With a hefty majority in support and willing to give it time. Maybe we should all be asked to vote again, this time a people's vote? Point by point: - We will all disagree with subs. BG and PT both make subs too late for me and often like for like. - I have posted articles and quotes on here were BG is stating he needs / wants more attackers. The not wanting to replace JCH claim is very different to not replacing him like for like. - he gave two left backs contracts FYI. This constant exaggeration of the left backs is ridiculous. Leahy was the only fit left back after signing Tutonda and Loiki late. Kelly was kept as back up LCB / LB and then let go in the next window. This is why we have 3 RBs and 3 LBs in the squad. - the promotion thing is a tough one. Do I think GC would have got us promotion without Jakkola? No. More wins than BG? Quite possibly. The squad was shot to bits, JCH had only scored one in open at since September and was being strapped up and pushed on the pitch like an old mule. GC did a great job in making sure we got enough points as possible but like this year, the Xmas period brings injuries and we would have struggled to survive them. Could Garner have carried on the GC way and got more wins? Quite possibly. Promotion? No. Why did he change it? Because that’s what he was bought into to do. If the club wanted promotion they would have swapped in a GC like for like. - I will always vote young progressive manager that develops young players, especially when they have a better record than a manager with 700 odd games under their belt. If Garner came in now and had the record he did at the start of this season we would all be singing his praises. The board made a terrible decision and it is backed up by the nonsense of “Garner signed 4 left backs” and “garner didn’t want a centre forward”. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 7, 2021 11:26:47 GMT
As ever it's a pleasure to disagree with you.
"May 2020, Kelly signed a new contract with Rovers to extend his stay at the club for a further year."
Taken from wiki, because I'm lazy.... it's true, BG offered 3 left sided defenders a contract (Michael Kelly, Tutunda, Kioke) with the experienced Leahy.
It's true BG didn't want a centre forward replacementas we started the season with 0 strikers at Ipswich!
Promotion under GC was a distinct possibility. The closest it's ever been in many Gas' lifetime's. As said before, we left Portman Road in December 2019 singing about promotion, and genuine belief......the next season (this season) we were left singing about the journey! Frankly, embarrassing...
BG stat all you like, it's really the only post you have. The rest of his managerial decisions have been woeful and have led us to where we are....I honestly think that even if you had the best, established management team in the country it wouldn't matter. This squad is so imbalanced and lightweight for this division it's just naive to think it could achieve anything less than a mid table finish.
Which is equivalent to a failure of BG management and philosophy.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Feb 7, 2021 11:31:08 GMT
It's no good debating with Carts as he/she only chose to join this forum in a time when PT form has taken a downturn, and regurgitation of the chosen history stat BG 1.38 PPG. He/she won't address the apparent lack of understanding of how a game lives and breathes in live time by like for like changes in sub forms on or around 69minutes. He/she won't address the frankly baffling and sometimes insulting post match interview. He/she won't address the 'we aren't looking to replace jch' philosophy. And we wonder why we can't score goals? He/she won't address the giving contracts of 3 left back positions when we've already got Leahy, whom at one time was top goalscorer (and was subsequently dropped!), and now ever-present. Management in football is so much more than stats. Carlts posts are interesting. It's always nice to see things from a different perspective. I give credit for Carlts admittance of Southend....a modern day Braintree.... and give credit to BG for giving TN a chance and swiftly moving on from it.... but the ultimate stat which no one can argue with is: after 5 years of hard work in forming a team and squad capable of challenging for promotion, possibly for the first time in 30 years, BG took us from 4th to relegation threatened. And that's unacceptable, no matter what b s long term agenda anyone wants to spout. Back on topic..... around 40% say BG should go now. With a hefty majority in support and willing to give it time. Maybe we should all be asked to vote again, this time a people's vote? Point by point: - We will all disagree with subs. BG and PT both make subs too late for me and often like for like. - I have posted articles and quotes on here were BG is stating he needs / wants more attackers. The not wanting to replace JCH claim is very different to not replacing him like for like. - he gave two left backs contracts FYI. This constant exaggeration of the left backs is ridiculous. Leahy was the only fit left back after signing Tutonda and Loiki late. Kelly was kept as back up LCB / LB and then let go in the next window. This is why we have 3 RBs and 3 LBs in the squad.- the promotion thing is a tough one. Do I think GC would have got us promotion without Jakkola? No. More wins than BG? Quite possibly. The squad was shot to bits, JCH had only scored one in open at since September and was being strapped up and pushed on the pitch like an old mule. GC did a great job in making sure we got enough points as possible but like this year, the Xmas period brings injuries and we would have struggled to survive them. Could Garner have carried on the GC way and got more wins? Quite possibly. Promotion? No. Why did he change it? Because that’s what he was bought into to do. If the club wanted promotion they would have swapped in a GC like for like. - I will always vote young progressive manager that develops young players, especially when they have a better record than a manager with 700 odd games under their belt. If Garner came in now and had the record he did at the start of this season we would all be singing his praises. The board made a terrible decision and it is backed up by the nonsense of “Garner signed 4 left backs” and “garner didn’t want a centre forward”. Hi Ben. How’s the garden looking? Let’s go for the bit in bold. It’s not an exaggeration is it? Leahy - LB Kelly - LB. despite your assertion otherwise, he’d never played LCB for Rovers except for a couple of friendlies in preseason. Dave - LB/LWB. Koiki - LB/LWB. Jones. LB/LWB. Don’t want to hear you splitting hairs about LB v LWB either... that’s 5 on the books and 4 of them signed/resigned by you. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 11:37:30 GMT
Point by point: - We will all disagree with subs. BG and PT both make subs too late for me and often like for like. - I have posted articles and quotes on here were BG is stating he needs / wants more attackers. The not wanting to replace JCH claim is very different to not replacing him like for like. - he gave two left backs contracts FYI. This constant exaggeration of the left backs is ridiculous. Leahy was the only fit left back after signing Tutonda and Loiki late. Kelly was kept as back up LCB / LB and then let go in the next window. This is why we have 3 RBs and 3 LBs in the squad.- the promotion thing is a tough one. Do I think GC would have got us promotion without Jakkola? No. More wins than BG? Quite possibly. The squad was shot to bits, JCH had only scored one in open at since September and was being strapped up and pushed on the pitch like an old mule. GC did a great job in making sure we got enough points as possible but like this year, the Xmas period brings injuries and we would have struggled to survive them. Could Garner have carried on the GC way and got more wins? Quite possibly. Promotion? No. Why did he change it? Because that’s what he was bought into to do. If the club wanted promotion they would have swapped in a GC like for like. - I will always vote young progressive manager that develops young players, especially when they have a better record than a manager with 700 odd games under their belt. If Garner came in now and had the record he did at the start of this season we would all be singing his praises. The board made a terrible decision and it is backed up by the nonsense of “Garner signed 4 left backs” and “garner didn’t want a centre forward”. Hi Ben. How’s the garden looking? Let’s go for the bit in bold. It’s not an exaggeration is it? Leahy - LB Kelly - LB. despite your assertion otherwise, he’d never played LCB for Rovers except for a couple of friendlies in preseason. Dave - LB/LWB. Koiki - LB/LWB. Jones. LB/LWB. Don’t want to hear you splitting hairs about LB v LWB either... that’s 5 on the books and 4 of them signed/resigned by you. Hi Colin. Are you actually crackers? 1. Leahy and Kelly already at Rovers and already signed. 2. Kelly only played LCB for Garner - 3 times in all. 3. Jones was signed for the future and loaned back for the season. If we are working in your warped world then we include Phillips, Walker in the forwards giving us 5 forwards not 3 and we have 5 goalkeepers. Have a day off please. |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Feb 7, 2021 13:14:33 GMT
Hi Ben. How’s the garden looking? Let’s go for the bit in bold. It’s not an exaggeration is it? Leahy - LB Kelly - LB. despite your assertion otherwise, he’d never played LCB for Rovers except for a couple of friendlies in preseason. Dave - LB/LWB. Koiki - LB/LWB. Jones. LB/LWB. Don’t want to hear you splitting hairs about LB v LWB either... that’s 5 on the books and 4 of them signed/resigned by you. Hi Colin. Are you actually crackers? 1. Leahy and Kelly already at Rovers and already signed. 2. Kelly only played LCB for Garner - 3 times in all. 3. Jones was signed for the future and loaned back for the season. If we are working in your warped world then we include Phillips, Walker in the forwards giving us 5 forwards not 3 and we have 5 goalkeepers. Have a day off please. He signed 3 left backs in one summer and resigned Michael Kelly who was, and is, a left back. With a recognised LB already at the club. You can try and argue it but that happened and it’s one hell of a hill to die on mind if you ain’t actually Ben Garner... |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 14:06:15 GMT
So do you think Tisdale has just signed our 6th Goal Keeper in Jed Ward?
I bet you are apoplectic that PT has just signed another goalkeeper knowing we had 5 at the club already?!
Unbelievable!
Oh and Michael Kelly played left centre half, left back and left wing back under GC.
He played left centre half under Garner and I don’t believe he played under PT but May be wrong.
Either way neither BG or PT considered him a viable option at LB hence his loan signing to Yeovil. You are right he signed an extra year, the club did this with menayase as well to stop him leaving on a free in the pandemic lockdown
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 14:21:30 GMT
As ever it's a pleasure to disagree with you. "May 2020, Kelly signed a new contract with Rovers to extend his stay at the club for a further year." Taken from wiki, because I'm lazy.... it's true, BG offered 3 left sided defenders a contract (Michael Kelly, Tutunda, Kioke) with the experienced Leahy. It's true BG didn't want a centre forward replacementas we started the season with 0 strikers at Ipswich! Promotion under GC was a distinct possibility. The closest it's ever been in many Gas' lifetime's. As said before, we left Portman Road in December 2019 singing about promotion, and genuine belief......the next season (this season) we were left singing about the journey! Frankly, embarrassing... BG stat all you like, it's really the only post you have. The rest of his managerial decisions have been woeful and have led us to where we are....I honestly think that even if you had the best, established management team in the country it wouldn't matter. This squad is so imbalanced and lightweight for this division it's just naive to think it could achieve anything less than a mid table finish. Which is equivalent to a failure of BG management and philosophy. This squad under BG: - beat Lincoln away 2-1. - drew with Sunderland away 1-1. - unbeaten against teams below 10th at the time of playing. - averaged 1.38PPG These are all actual facts. 1.38PPG in the last 8 games including playing Hull and Peterborough. Not relegation form. Garner had 33 games and 7 months on the training ground. We will never know if the philosophy worked. What we do know is that sacking Garner and employing Tisdale has made us worse. We are lower in the league, less PPG, biggest defeat, less goals scored etc etc all with the same players in the same league in the same season. But yeah Garner signed 5 left backs |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 7, 2021 14:26:03 GMT
Furthermore, don’t forget we still have Rodman, Kilgour, Jakkola, Leahy, Little, Hare, Upson, JVS and Cam
Hargreaves of the great steely promotion robbed squad of 19/20.
But no, this is BGs lightweight relegation bound squad.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 7, 2021 14:36:12 GMT
Own up, what's your connection to BG, is he your partner or relation as no normal Gashead is ever this obsessed with an ex manager, even DC who was a fans favourite.
As far as the new goalie, my understanding is he's an Academy player whereas you are only referring to the 1st teams squad of 22 players when it comes to LB's, the fact Kelly's now been sent out on loan suggests we clearly had at least one too many.
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Post by henry on Feb 7, 2021 14:41:25 GMT
All I will say is that I hope Rovers push on up the table after yesterday’s improved performance and Prove Tisdale’s appointment to be the right one.
Mind you he has his work cut out with some of those Downs footballers so fingers crossed.
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