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Post by alanrg on Mar 3, 2021 12:24:11 GMT
If the unthinkable happens and we get relegated fellow gasheads do u think that Joey Barton will be with us next season
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 3, 2021 12:27:27 GMT
As we're paying them all, maybe we could put JB, PT, and BG in a tank of sustaining fluids and hook them up to a futuristic computer and use their combined mental energies to predict the future.
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Post by surreygas4 on Mar 3, 2021 12:29:54 GMT
Given the criticism that was levelled at Tisdale for the results during his disastrous reign, I think it will be interesting to see how much criticism Barton will get if we go down, having had 18 games to turn it around. Lack of transfer window aside, he cannot be exempt from criticism if the unthinkable happens.
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Post by clovis on Mar 3, 2021 12:46:58 GMT
It depends on how we play. If we lose every game 5-0 then I’m sure he will get flak. If we play with spirit and don’t get the rub of the green then, as he is working with another man’s squad, he shouldn’t get any grief. I hope he is here next season wherever we are as I cannot see us getting anyone better.
And we did look ok, not great, last night until the sending off. Had we stayed with 11 on the pitch and they still scored their goal, I would have been confident of us equalising. There are signs of improvement but Saturday is a big test.
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Post by barumgas on Mar 3, 2021 12:49:09 GMT
In the last 4 games we have been the better team and its our lack of ability to convert the many scoring opportunities we have had that has made the difference. Yes the defence has made mistakes but what team doesn't, however we seem to be improving there. Let's be honest our strikers are not currently up to the task and Barton has a task on his hands to change that. If he can we will stay up
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Post by gulfofaden on Mar 3, 2021 12:50:47 GMT
It depends on how we play. If we lose every game 5-0 then I’m sure he will get flak. If we play with spirit and don’t get the rub of the green then, as he is working with another man’s squad, he shouldn’t get any grief. I hope he is here next season wherever we are as I cannot see us getting anyone better. And we did look ok, not great, last night until the sending off. Had we stayed with 11 on the pitch and they still scored their goal, I would have been confident of us equalising. There are signs of improvement but Saturday is a big test. We looked better than the opposition until the referee decided that he would apply the law unequally to a 20 year old kid and make him responsible for a team in a relegation fight losing a crucial game. Yes, letter of the law etc. He did NOT apply it fairly and you can’t judge JB, or the team based on a game which we would have drawn, or won, because the ref wanted to be the centre of attention - and, I think, probably doesn’t like Barton....they all want their little moment in the sun. Even the first booking wasn’t equal, plenty of those challenges went unpunished but he wanted to pick on the youth player, total prick. It’s crippling watching game after game of freak goals, weird sendings off, penalties denied, never getting a quick FK when we should, refs pulling it back when they should play advantage, wind deflected crosses.....the whole season is like we’re playing on 5* hard mode. It better bloody even out because every 2nd game we get this. A couple of very tight offsides for Leahy yesterday as well.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Mar 3, 2021 12:51:07 GMT
It aint going to happen folks!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:10:33 GMT
If three managers cannot get goals from this squad then I suspect you have to look at the squad as much if not more than the manager.
JB has managed to improve performance and style of play and I suspect more scoring opportunities have been created under him but for some reason it's not being converted into goals. All JB can say is keep creating chances and eventually they will start going in.
I don't see what would change if a fourth manager was appointed. If we go down then unless the team goes into a meltdown, loosing heavily each week, then better to let JB rebuild over the summer. Would be surprised if he walked away with a relegation and no revival on his CV.
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Post by 1986gashead on Mar 3, 2021 13:11:20 GMT
I think he’s here long term either way but also I just don’t see us going down, there are plenty of winnable games left to play
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Post by thegasman on Mar 3, 2021 13:15:20 GMT
Given the criticism that was levelled at Tisdale for the results during his disastrous reign, I think it will be interesting to see how much criticism Barton will get if we go down, having had 18 games to turn it around. Lack of transfer window aside, he cannot be exempt from criticism if the unthinkable happens. f**ked if I'm going to stand in front of him and tell what a C yoU Next Tuesday he is.
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Post by surreygas4 on Mar 3, 2021 13:16:48 GMT
Given the criticism that was levelled at Tisdale for the results during his disastrous reign, I think it will be interesting to see how much criticism Barton will get if we go down, having had 18 games to turn it around. Lack of transfer window aside, he cannot be exempt from criticism if the unthinkable happens. f**ked if I'm going to stand in front of him and tell what a C yoU Next Tuesday he is. that makes two of us!
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 3, 2021 13:16:49 GMT
All the things which Gulfofaden mentions are true of teams in our position in the league. The truth is that when the going gets tough-it gets even tougher because decisions and referees do go against you and goals are missed that should be scored and goals are conceded in a way they shouldn't be. If we can win a couple of games on the trot then you will see decisions start to go with us. 22 fouls committed by Burton of which at least 6 of them were worse than the tackle which McCormick was booked for and add to that the blatant time wasting by stopping us taking free kicks which were on par with kicking the ball away. I rate referees on their ability to keep a match fair by doing everything to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch- None of us spectators want to really watch a match which is uneven in numbers. Whilst technically thje referee was right in the two bookings - in consistency he was absolutely dreadful
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Post by thegasman on Mar 3, 2021 13:18:53 GMT
It depends on how we play. If we lose every game 5-0 then I’m sure he will get flak. If we play with spirit and don’t get the rub of the green then, as he is working with another man’s squad, he shouldn’t get any grief. I hope he is here next season wherever we are as I cannot see us getting anyone better. And we did look ok, not great, last night until the sending off. Had we stayed with 11 on the pitch and they still scored their goal, I would have been confident of us equalising. There are signs of improvement but Saturday is a big test. We looked better than the opposition until the referee decided that he would apply the law unequally to a 20 year old kid and make him responsible for a team in a relegation fight losing a crucial game. Yes, letter of the law etc. He did NOT apply it fairly and you can’t judge JB, or the team based on a game which we would have drawn, or won, because the ref wanted to be the centre of attention - and, I think, probably doesn’t like Barton....they all want their little moment in the sun. Even the first booking wasn’t equal, plenty of those challenges went unpunished but he wanted to pick on the youth player, total prick. It’s crippling watching game after game of freak goals, weird sendings off, penalties denied, never getting a quick FK when we should, refs pulling it back when they should play advantage, wind deflected crosses.....the whole season is like we’re playing on 5* hard mode. It better bloody even out because every 2nd game we get this. A couple of very tight offsides for Leahy yesterday as well. I gave up counting how many times Burton stopped us taking a quick free kick/corner/throw in etc, by standing in the way or kicking the ball away, not 1 booking. Even in the 2nd half they kicked the ball away from a free kick and it went unpunished. When we had the 1st free kick just outside the pen area, and wanted to slide the ball right, the ref stood in the way. After being bollocked, he didn't do it for the 2nd kick in an identical place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:20:45 GMT
Just watched a random youtube video on abandoned grounds, sad that some have aspects better than the mem... jesus when will this ever be sorted? Just improve it at least please!!!
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Post by RD on Mar 3, 2021 13:21:50 GMT
IF we go down, logically at least one of JB or TW have to go. There can be no scenario where they both stay.
Either JB failed as the squad was good enough and so should have stayed up OR TW failed as the squad wasn't good enough to stay up, irrespective of the abilities of the manager
There's no in-between.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:25:35 GMT
I think he’s here long term either way but also I just don’t see us going down, there are plenty of winnable games left to play I hope you are right, we need some stability. I would like to hope JB and coaching staff stay for a least a few seasons and turn things round. They need that for their CVs as much as we need them. Guess it's even money in terms of relegation (at least that's how the bookies see it).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 13:27:35 GMT
All the things which Gulfofaden mentions are true of teams in our position in the league. The truth is that when the going gets tough-it gets even tougher because decisions and referees do go against you and goals are missed that should be scored and goals are conceded in a way they shouldn't be. If we can win a couple of games on the trot then you will see decisions start to go with us. 22 fouls committed by Burton of which at least 6 of them were worse than the tackle which McCormick was booked for and add to that the blatant time wasting by stopping us taking free kicks which were on par with kicking the ball away. I rate referees on their ability to keep a match fair by doing everything to keep 11 v 11 on the pitch- None of us spectators want to really watch a match which is uneven in numbers. Whilst technically thje referee was right in the two bookings - in consistency he was absolutely dreadful Spot on...
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 3, 2021 13:28:16 GMT
IF we go down, logically at least one of JB or TW have to go. There can be no scenario where they both stay. Either JB failed as the squad was good enough and so should have stayed up OR TW failed as the squad wasn't good enough to stay up, irrespective of the abilities of the manager There's no in-between. BG and PT told TW what they wanted in the last 2 transfer windows, he told them who was available, and who we could get, that sounds in between to me. Neither TW or JB can be blamed for that.
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Post by lavalamp on Mar 3, 2021 13:28:53 GMT
Can't we use the Garnerball excuse - it's not his team, give him a chance to build his own team and give him 10 games next season?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Mar 3, 2021 13:38:14 GMT
Unless we go down with a whimper & performances nose-dive from now till May then I’d 100% keep him & trust him to bring us back up.
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