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Post by William Wilson on Mar 3, 2021 18:39:38 GMT
The following I understand r out of contract Leahy JVS Little Davies Kelly Hare Upson Hargreaves Bennett Ogogo there is ten for a start another one to go 4 me Barrett id keep leahy, jvs and hare from that. Leahy has done well and the other 2 have unrealised potential imo. Surely all potential is unrealised. That`s why it`s potential.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 3, 2021 18:42:50 GMT
Just watched the highlights again and Keeper was quite niave as well there just tapping the ball out when really should have hoofed it out to give himself time to get back! McCormick would then not have needed to kick the ball away. I think it just goes back to us being unlucky, unlucky not to score in the first half, unlucky McM was booked, unlucky Williams back pass didn't reach JVS, unlucky he messed up his clearance, then unlucky it just happened to be McM stood closest to the ball and the ref wanting to make a point by giving him a second yellow. If we'd had a bit of GC's luck then we'd have been 1-0 up and playing with 11 name before Burton scored. If out luck doesn't change in the next 2 or 3 games I can see us being relegated, as players will start to lose confidence along with the fight to keep on battling. Back to the OP I wonder what contract JB signed, will he still get the same pay if we are relegated, if not, will he want to live this far away from his family if he can get a better contract offer closer to home?
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Post by lpgas1 on Mar 3, 2021 18:48:35 GMT
Same old, a lack of a consistent goalscorer, and for that you have to blame Garner
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Post by LJG on Mar 3, 2021 18:52:31 GMT
Err ... did you ever think that if those clubs hadn't paid for those grounds they had to abandon they might still exist? true but some moved on to bigger and better mind. Darlington and Boston Utd are always the two that spring to my mind.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 3, 2021 18:53:01 GMT
TW to go , please , pretty please ! Utg 💙 Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 18:59:05 GMT
Whilst our current league position would make anyone nervous, I really don’t think we will be relegated. At some point it has to come together for us! We have a talented squad that are just inconsistent and lack the nous that comes with experience. It will come though!
As we’ve seen in the last 3 games, our performances have generally been good and we’ve been in control of all the games for the bulk of the time. In both the Wigan and Burton games we were unlucky to not come away with anything and that improvement has come with limited training time so I think with the extra sessions that JB will have with the squad, those fine margins which have cost us will turn and I can see us going on a nice winning run and pulling away from it all....
Well, that’s what I’m hoping will happen and I have (possibly blind) faith we’ll be fine!
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 3, 2021 18:59:07 GMT
TW to go , please , pretty please ! Utg 💙 Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out. But he’s head of recruitment! His job was/Is to target suitable players and to construct a solid balanced team. He’s failed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:02:48 GMT
Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out. But he’s head of recruitment! His job was/Is to target suitable players and to construct a solid balanced team. He’s failed. That’s not his job? The team structure, balance and make up is the role of the manager. TW is accountable for scouting, analysis, identifying targets based upon needs the manager specifies and then supporting the contracting and commercial discussions!? TW can only provide information on players. The manager decides if he wants them or which ones he wants.
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 3, 2021 19:05:42 GMT
But he’s head of recruitment! His job was/Is to target suitable players and to construct a solid balanced team. He’s failed. That’s not his job? The team structure, balance and make up is the role of the manager. TW is accountable for scouting, analysis, identifying targets based upon needs the manager specifies and then supporting the contracting and commercial discussions!? TW can only provide information on players. The manager decides if he wants them or which ones he wants. Then he’s providing terrible advice then! What was anyone thinking when signing such an imbalanced squad with no recognised striker?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 3, 2021 19:08:04 GMT
TW to go , please , pretty please ! Utg 💙 Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out. I personally cannot see Barton and widdrington working together for any length of time , remains to be seen . Utg 💙
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:11:36 GMT
That’s not his job? The team structure, balance and make up is the role of the manager. TW is accountable for scouting, analysis, identifying targets based upon needs the manager specifies and then supporting the contracting and commercial discussions!? TW can only provide information on players. The manager decides if he wants them or which ones he wants. Then he’s providing terrible advice then! What was anyone thinking when signing such an imbalanced squad with no recognised striker? He can give advice but it’s still up to the manager to listen. The manager has the final say? Also TWs team give the manager facts and figures and testimonies from other players, coaches, managers etc for the manager to review and assess and make the decisions from.
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 3, 2021 19:12:01 GMT
Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out. I personally cannot see Barton and widdrington working together for any length of time , remains to be seen . Utg 💙 I know which one I’d want identifying players.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 3, 2021 19:21:39 GMT
🤔Utg💙
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Post by axegas on Mar 3, 2021 19:49:07 GMT
I’m not sure I’m even fussed about relegation to be honest. Plenty of local teams in league two and it’s a division we actually have a chance of finishing in the top 10 in.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 3, 2021 20:18:01 GMT
I personally cannot see Barton and widdrington working together for any length of time , remains to be seen . Utg 💙 I know which one I’d want identifying players. Surely it's a team working together, players are identified and watched then, if they are considered suitable, TW attempts to agree contracts with them and also deals with the medicals/contract etc.
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Post by alanrg on Mar 3, 2021 20:34:46 GMT
If we get relegated TW has 2 go
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 3, 2021 20:45:30 GMT
I’m not sure I’m even fussed about relegation to be honest. Plenty of local teams in league two and it’s a division we actually have a chance of finishing in the top 10 in. No ambition.
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Post by pirate on Mar 3, 2021 20:56:55 GMT
Then he’s providing terrible advice then! What was anyone thinking when signing such an imbalanced squad with no recognised striker? He can give advice but it’s still up to the manager to listen. The manager has the final say? Also TWs team give the manager facts and figures and testimonies from other players, coaches, managers etc for the manager to review and assess and make the decisions from. Timmeh Abraham was an example of a Widdrington signing, not a managerial decision. Would be interesting to know how many others there have been in similar circumstances. gaschat.co.uk/post/640016
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Post by northseagas on Mar 3, 2021 21:04:08 GMT
If we go down it will be no fault of JB as this is not his squad all the blame will have to lay at the feet of garner and tisdale neither signed a decent striker or 2 And now we can’t score goals. If we stay up or go down not this current squad needs a good cleaning out with with JB in charge I can see this happening
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Mar 3, 2021 21:08:31 GMT
Why would the club do that, he's good at his job, and a loyal servant. He's implemented systems to minimise poor signings, where we have a better idea of ability, fitness and attitude of players before they sign. He gave Ben Garner exactly what he asked for, so not his fault if some of the signings didn't work out. But he’s head of recruitment! His job was/Is to target suitable players and to construct a solid balanced team. He’s failed. No, that's the manager's job. He's consistently said that the manager discusses what he's trying to achieve and what kind of player he needs to achieve that, and then Widdrington profiles players who fit this. He then provides lists to the manager to discuss. The process is still driven by the manager. TW is head of recruitment, so will ultimately try to sign whoever the manager decides to pursue.
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