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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 10:27:36 GMT
Don't see any point in trying to appoint yet another manager and paying out yet more compensation.
Don't see Joey and his entourage staying their full contract anyway.
Must say some of the decisions he is starting to make seem rather odd which is always a worrying sign.
Evens chance he'll be gone in the summer anyway.
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Post by alanrg on Apr 3, 2021 10:55:43 GMT
In without a shadow of doubt at least this guy shows a bit of passion unlike the 2 previous incumbents, as I previously mentioned roll on May 9th so the clear out of this squad can begin UTG
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 11:21:01 GMT
Wael cant hold his hands up then sack barton can he? Stupid thread. In and we r going down. End of.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 11:59:10 GMT
Get this deluded zero achiever out as soon as possible. I'd say wait until the end of the season but he seems to think the season is over so just treat him like it has.
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Post by playtowin on Apr 3, 2021 12:07:11 GMT
In without a shadow of doubt at least this guy shows a bit of passion unlike the 2 previous incumbents, as I previously mentioned roll on May 9th so the clear out of this squad can begin UTG Im not sure a massive clear out is needed. Some will leave im sure for various reasons. If you look at the Rovers youngsters ,what do we (and other clubs) usually do ? Give them sub places,play them in minor cup games and mostly send them out on loan. Why send them out ? To get experience. To make mistakes on other teams games. To learn harsh realities. What Rovers have done this season is effectively included those types of players as the mainstay of the squad. So they are learning and making mistakes at OUR cost. Those are costing points. Most of the squad would be fine ,in fact very promising if it wasnt for the fact they are now the first choice players.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 12:10:43 GMT
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I think he can improve us, once he gets the opportunity to bring players of his choice into the squad, and hopefully ditch some of the dead wood. He'll bring in a different type of player than BG did, players with fire in their belly, and a few with experience to help bring the younger lads on.
I don't think anything will be achieved by changing the manager yet again.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 3, 2021 12:17:12 GMT
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Can't believe we're even discussing this to be honest.
I don't think any manager could have kept this group in L1, particularly with a lengthening injury list (Ehmer, Kilgour, Harries, Rodman, Grant, Nicholson) and shocking refereeing decisions.
In general play we've been far better since Barton came in - dominant or competitive in every game - but unfortunately we have no natural goalscorers and defenders prone to individual errors.
These aren't problems that can be magically solved overnight.
We've given Barton, Hill and Mangan 2.5 year contracts so to even discuss changing the manager after a little over 5 weeks in the job and before he's had an opportunity to sign any players is madness in my opinion.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 12:22:49 GMT
In I think he can improve us, once he gets the opportunity to bring players of his choice into the squad, and hopefully ditch some of the dead wood. He'll bring in a different type of player than BG did, players with fire in their belly, and a few with experience to help bring the younger lads on. I don't think anything will be achieved by changing the manager yet again. What is it, in Barton's history of recruiting players, that gives you such positivity?
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Post by barleycorn48 on Apr 3, 2021 13:28:19 GMT
In even Pep Guardiloa counldnt turn this squad around. let Joey recuit in the summer break and hopfully we will come up trumps.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 3, 2021 16:06:46 GMT
I am definitely in, just hope he stays and is around for the beginning of next season. Give him the summer to get rid, or farm out, the under performers, and bring in his own players.
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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 16:56:44 GMT
In. Can't believe we're even discussing this to be honest. I don't think any manager could have kept this group in L1, particularly with a lengthening injury list (Ehmer, Kilgour, Harries, Rodman, Grant, Nicholson) and shocking refereeing decisions. In general play we've been far better since Barton came in - dominant or competitive in every game - but unfortunately we have no natural goalscorers and defenders prone to individual errors. These aren't problems that can be magically solved overnight. We've given Barton, Hill and Mangan 2.5 year contracts so to even discuss changing the manager after a little over 5 weeks in the job and before he's had an opportunity to sign any players is madness in my opinion. Still don’t get this view. With the quality of the teams at the bottom we only needed to average a point per game this season to stay up. Even after Tisdale’s disastrous spell we were still averaging over a point per game. Managed correctly, this squad was more than capable of finishing on 46 points.
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 3, 2021 17:10:27 GMT
In ffs, 3 managers same results squads the problem
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Post by station on Apr 3, 2021 17:29:43 GMT
We need to toughen up and JB is the man to do that and help develop a never say die attitude. He needs to bring in his own players.
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Post by GasAttacK on Apr 3, 2021 17:53:22 GMT
In. Can't believe we're even discussing this to be honest. I don't think any manager could have kept this group in L1, particularly with a lengthening injury list (Ehmer, Kilgour, Harries, Rodman, Grant, Nicholson) and shocking refereeing decisions. In general play we've been far better since Barton came in - dominant or competitive in every game - but unfortunately we have no natural goalscorers and defenders prone to individual errors. These aren't problems that can be magically solved overnight. We've given Barton, Hill and Mangan 2.5 year contracts so to even discuss changing the manager after a little over 5 weeks in the job and before he's had an opportunity to sign any players is madness in my opinion. Still don’t get this view. With the quality of the teams at the bottom we only needed to average a point per game this season to stay up. Even after Tisdale’s disastrous spell we were still averaging over a point per game. Managed correctly, this squad was more than capable of finishing on 46 points. You're ignoring our lengthening injury list and some shocking refereeing decisions, particularly the goal against Swindon.
Garner and Tisdale had far fewer injuries to key players.
You're also ignoring the fact that we've played a lot better since Barton took over and been either dominant or at least competitive in every game, the stats back that up.
We were often completely outplayed during Garner and Tisdale's time in charge.
The manager can't go on the pitch and put the ball in the net or stop moments of madness in defence.
Barton has got the team playing better but none of our front players are natuaral goalscorers and their lack of goals is effecting their confidence.
The defence has been prone to individual errors all season but Barton has not been helped by so many injuries (Ehmer, Harries, Kilgour, Rodman) which has forced him to constantly change his back 4 or 5.
Nicholson is the biggest miss. Without question our best player and had he stayed 100% fit all season I think we'd have been okay.
We have to get behind Barton and the new management team even if we go down and judge them 10-15 games into next season when they've had chance to sign a few players and correct the imbalance in our squad.
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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 18:02:44 GMT
Still don’t get this view. With the quality of the teams at the bottom we only needed to average a point per game this season to stay up. Even after Tisdale’s disastrous spell we were still averaging over a point per game. Managed correctly, this squad was more than capable of finishing on 46 points. You're ignoring our lengthening injury list and some shocking refereeing decisions, particularly the goal against Swindon.
Garner and Tisdale had far fewer injuries to key players.
You're also ignoring the fact that we've played a lot better since Barton took over and been either dominant or at least competitive in every game, the stats back that up.
We were often completely outplayed during Garner and Tisdale's time in charge.
The manager can't go on the pitch and put the ball in the net or stop moments of madness in defence.
Barton has got the team playing better but none of our front players are natuaral goalscorers and their lack of goals is effecting their confidence.
The defence has been prone to individual errors all season but Barton has not been helped by so many injuries (Ehmer, Harries, Kilgour, Rodman) which has forced him to constantly change his back 4 or 5.
Nicholson is the biggest miss. Without question our best player and had he stayed 100% fit all season I think we'd have been okay.
We have to get behind Barton and the new management team even if we go down and judge them 10-15 games into next season when they've had chance to sign a few players and correct the imbalance in our squad.
Fully agree we have to get behind Barton just don’t agree that, even now, we should just accept relegation. The referee decisions are gone and who knows we could get some in our favour in the next 7 games. All managers have injuries and Garner was without Nicholson, Ayunga, Mitchell-Lawson and Rodman for much of his short spell this season which was a fair dent in his attacking options. We could have Rodman, Kilgour and Grant back by next Saturday, beat Northampton and kick on for the last 5 games of the season. I like Barton but he seems more intent on absolving himself from any blame than actually keeping us up.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 18:09:19 GMT
In. Can't believe we're even discussing this to be honest. I don't think any manager could have kept this group in L1, particularly with a lengthening injury list (Ehmer, Kilgour, Harries, Rodman, Grant, Nicholson) and shocking refereeing decisions. In general play we've been far better since Barton came in - dominant or competitive in every game - but unfortunately we have no natural goalscorers and defenders prone to individual errors. These aren't problems that can be magically solved overnight. We've given Barton, Hill and Mangan 2.5 year contracts so to even discuss changing the manager after a little over 5 weeks in the job and before he's had an opportunity to sign any players is madness in my opinion. Still don’t get this view. With the quality of the teams at the bottom we only needed to average a point per game this season to stay up. Even after Tisdale’s disastrous spell we were still averaging over a point per game. Managed correctly, this squad was more than capable of finishing on 46 points.Only Widdrington and you seem to have that view, if the present squad w/o Nicholson and Rodman is so good why is it incapable of scoring goals? Yesterday only McCormick seem to know where the goal is on the pitch, Hanlan dragged his only chance wide and I can't recall Ayunga even having a chance to score.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 18:13:14 GMT
Get this deluded zero achiever out as soon as possible. I'd say wait until the end of the season but he seems to think the season is over so just treat him like it has. Easy to post that but there's a good chance Wael will appoint somebody far worse as a replacement.
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Post by 4d on Apr 3, 2021 18:36:37 GMT
Still don’t get this view. With the quality of the teams at the bottom we only needed to average a point per game this season to stay up. Even after Tisdale’s disastrous spell we were still averaging over a point per game. Managed correctly, this squad was more than capable of finishing on 46 points.Only Widdrington and you seem to have that view, if the present squad w/o Nicholson and Rodman is so good why is it incapable of scoring goals? Yesterday only McCormick seem to know where the goal is on the pitch, Hanlan dragged his only chance wide and I can't recall Ayunga even having a chance to score. We didn’t have Rodman at all in October and I think Nicholson started one game. We played 6 league games - 3 wins 2 draws and 1 defeat (to Hull).in the 6 games we scored 8 goals with Hanlan and Daly getting 3 each. Not saying its a great squad but it’s good enough to average a point a game.
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 18:56:30 GMT
Get this deluded zero achiever out as soon as possible. I'd say wait until the end of the season but he seems to think the season is over so just treat him like it has. Easy to post that but there's a good chance Wael will appoint somebody far worse as a replacement. No there isn't. They would be too hard to find. Even if he appoints someone with as bad a managerial record he'd be hard pushed to find anyone who conducts himself as badly in front of camera.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 3, 2021 19:37:01 GMT
Only Widdrington and you seem to have that view, if the present squad w/o Nicholson and Rodman is so good why is it incapable of scoring goals? Yesterday only McCormick seem to know where the goal is on the pitch, Hanlan dragged his only chance wide and I can't recall Ayunga even having a chance to score. We didn’t have Rodman at all in October and I think Nicholson started one game. We played 6 league games - 3 wins 2 draws and 1 defeat (to Hull).in the 6 games we scored 8 goals with Hanlan and Daly getting 3 each. Not saying its a great squad but it’s good enough to average a point a game. Since that spell Hanlan seems to have forgotten how to score, not sure you can blame PT or JB for the fact Hanlan's now turned into a poorer version of Tom Nichols, although that seems his usual standard anyway. As far as October's fixtures Nicholson figured in most games, the only players who appear to have been missing where Rodman and Ayunga, who hardly figured when he was fit anyway. It seems BG had a virtually full fit squad to pick from with even Oztumer fully fit at that time.
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