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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 16, 2021 20:55:36 GMT
Looking on the bright side, it Nicholson is out for the start of the season it makes it much more likely we’ll keep him.
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Post by banjogas on Apr 16, 2021 20:59:43 GMT
Expect a terse press release very soon. "Martyn Starnes and Tommy Widdrington have left Bristol Rovers with immediate effect. The club would like to thank them for their contributions during their time here. The club will be making no further comment at this stage." Or summat like that. Starnes is a 68 year old failed accountant, somehow managed to bump into Wael at soccer exhibition and landed the job of ceo. The Plymouth fans resented the man, he is shy of the media and lacks any communication with the fan base. Let’s hope the army man reports back , it’s no surprise the clubs been on a downward trend since his appointment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 21:22:49 GMT
I thought I heard correctly last week when he criticised the Physio staff.
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Post by kentgas on Apr 16, 2021 21:49:00 GMT
Looking on the bright side, it Nicholson is out for the start of the season it makes it much more likely we’ll keep him. Thought exactly the same - hopefully puts Hearts off!
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Post by horfield on Apr 16, 2021 21:49:42 GMT
So a man with a serious criminal record and a trial in 7 weeks time for aggravated bodily harm has been told to root and branch the club's organisation. It's a bit like asking King Herod to come and babysit for you on Christmas Eve. What if Barton is found guilty in June and does a stretch of porridge, what role does Lt Colonel Chris Gibson then assume.
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Post by aghast on Apr 16, 2021 21:53:20 GMT
So a man with a serious criminal record and a trial in 7 weeks time for aggravated bodily harm has been told to root and branch the club's organisation. It's a bit like asking King Herod to come and babysit for you on Christmas Eve. What if Barton is found guilty in June and does a stretch of porridge, what role does Lt Colonel Chris Gibson then assume. Manager?
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Post by pirate on Apr 16, 2021 21:55:47 GMT
Root and branch reviews would normally be conducted by the director of football or chief executive, if they aren't fit for purpose...then get some that are.
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Post by kentgas on Apr 16, 2021 22:01:44 GMT
Not unusual to bring in outside consultants to provide an objective viewpoint.
Sounds a good plan to me.
We never did have the one Higgs promised in 2014 did we?
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 16, 2021 22:03:10 GMT
That is true, but surely he as President has to calculate who to employ in order to get the club running in the way he wants. First he brought in Hamer as chairman, that didn't work. He brought in Starnes as CEO and Widdrington as DoF. Well, JB now comes in a says the whole place stinks. Does Wael even know who he can trust? It's all a bit ridiculous in my view. Interesting comments from JB about bringing in a third party to review the structure/infrastructure. I wonder what will come of that. The guy chosen seems an odd choice to comment on how a league club should be led: CHRIS GIBSON MEMBER OF THE MILITARY FOR 34 YEARS WHO SPECIALISES IN MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND LARGE-SCALE TRAINING Unless JB is planning to go to war next season in L2! I guess it sums up how poorly we are run when the CEO/DoF have to seek advice on experts to use from the manager! His biography is pretty impressive. champions-speakers.co.uk/speaker-agent/chris-gibson
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 22:03:18 GMT
Not unusual to bring in outside consultants to provide an objective viewpoint. Sounds a good plan to me. We never did have the one Higgs promised in 2014 did we? I thought we did. Apparently we didn't score enough goals.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Apr 16, 2021 22:14:04 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch “real football” in the champions league. As far as I’m concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more “real” than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy. Did you see mk dons trying to play out from the back, it was a joke
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Post by Strange Gas on Apr 16, 2021 22:18:38 GMT
Not unusual to bring in outside consultants to provide an objective viewpoint. Sounds a good plan to me. We never did have the one Higgs promised in 2014 did we? I thought we did. Apparently we didn't score enough goals. Didn’t it conclude we needed somebody with IT expertise? 🤔
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Post by pirate on Apr 16, 2021 22:31:14 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch “real football” in the champions league. As far as I’m concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more “real” than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy. Did you see mk dons trying to play out from the back, it was a joke But when you get it right...
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Post by kentgas on Apr 16, 2021 23:03:35 GMT
Not unusual to bring in outside consultants to provide an objective viewpoint. Sounds a good plan to me. We never did have the one Higgs promised in 2014 did we? I thought we did. Apparently we didn't score enough goals. And I think we got rid of some of the shop and bar staff . Sorted!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 23:20:35 GMT
You Mark my words babs.. joeys taking us to league 1. X
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Post by glengas on Apr 16, 2021 23:31:56 GMT
Did you see mk dons trying to play out from the back, it was a joke But when you get it right... I listened to it and thought he had done Lincoln’s team talk for them, but that is his style and you won’t change it. I really don’t want to hear anymore sound bites at the club, such as Evolution not Revolution, DNA and Reset. Just get rid of the Director of Football, have a decent summer transfer window and win some bloody football matches next season, whatever division we are in.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 17, 2021 0:14:10 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. I think people like Wael often make successes of their business by surrounding themselves with the best people. This is one aspect of his business life where he’s failed up to now. Starnes is completely inept and Widdington has had a few lucky breaks to get himself on the board of a football club. Judging by the feelings within the club currently I would be surprised to see either of them here at the start of next season. If they are, I would imagine their roles in terms of the footballing side of the club would be almost non existent. The hard part comes is finding a top performing CEO willinging to work on the non footballing side of the club.
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Post by darkbluegas on Apr 17, 2021 0:36:12 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. I think people like Wael often make successes of their business by surrounding themselves with the best people. This is one aspect of his business life where he’s failed up to now. Starnes is completely inept and Widdington has had a few lucky breaks to get himself on the board of a football club. Judging by the feelings within the club currently I would be surprised to see either of them here at the start of next season. If they are, I would imagine their roles in terms of the footballing side of the club would be almost non existent. The hard part comes in finding a top performing CEO willinging to work on the non footballing side of the club. Fans of the other lot moan about Ashton and his terrible record on recruitment but the other side, and in fact for lansdown the main role for Ashton, has been a huge success. He’s managed to turn As£££n G££e into a very successful Thatchers cider reprocessing plant. He can get twenty odd thousand people through the turnstiles and get a million gallons of cider down their necks every season and provides comfortable toilet facilities to flush it through. He’s given them a nice seat for two forty five minute periods to sit quietly whilst they wait for their next pint and pie. He’s given them just enough hope to keep coming back and the bandwagon roles on. He’s building basket ball stadiums and hotels on their doorstep and they generate more cash. And the punters keep coming through the gates oblivious to the fact that they are an average second division team. That talent doesn’t come cheap so that’s where Wael will next be writing out a decent salary cheque.
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 17, 2021 6:00:23 GMT
Let’s take the persona of JB aside, as in persona I mean “stuff he’s done which has been bang out of order” as opposed to things like his Cambridge Union address where he showed he’s not just a thug type thing...
He has a manager who has played at the highest level in the U.K. most of his professional career and clearly wasn’t there on amazing talent, but because he knew how to train, how to plan and how to win football matches. He didn’t get there with pace or flair.
He’s worked with the best in the game, seen how good and bad clubs are run and also as a manager achieved modest success with Fleetwood. I say modest, as it was. It wasn’t runaway, but he got them performing well and at the right end of the table.
JB has come in and said it’s a shambles.
Who do you trust? Do you dismiss him because he had a few fights? That isn’t a yardstick.
I think both MS and TW are done personally. The whole ethos of the manager runs the team blah blah has gone, Wael clearly wanted JB in control and that is totally incongruent to MS and TW philosophy. They have failed - sorry guys but you didn’t fail, you failed completely and utterly.
JB has done the best with what we have but you cannot polish a turd. I hope we keep him if we go down and totally remodel the club on his vision.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 17, 2021 6:02:03 GMT
Not unusual to bring in outside consultants to provide an objective viewpoint. Sounds a good plan to me. We never did have the one Higgs promised in 2014 did we? At least an outside consultant can feed back to the club when Barton is banned from football
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