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Post by alanrg on Apr 16, 2021 15:40:19 GMT
Interesting comments from the manager said originally he turned down the job but Wael convinced him to join the club
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 15:43:44 GMT
Looking forward to this thread! š©
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Post by Jomo on Apr 16, 2021 16:05:41 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz!
JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season.
Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction.
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Post by pirate on Apr 16, 2021 16:09:00 GMT
everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles" Hasn't it always? š
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Post by Rod1883 on Apr 16, 2021 16:41:09 GMT
everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles" Hasn't it always? š Perhaps, maybe, I hope, Wael has realised that he has put his trust in the wrong people and this is the start of the shake up needed.
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Post by gas2 on Apr 16, 2021 16:45:59 GMT
Its not the first time players fitness has been questioned when p!Ayers have left us other clubs have said the player has not been looked after fitness wise ?
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Post by axegas on Apr 16, 2021 16:51:11 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch āreal footballā in the champions league. As far as Iām concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more ārealā than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy.
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Post by peterparker on Apr 16, 2021 16:51:45 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. I mean, I am sure there is insurance and private medical stuff that gets players in for injuries and ops as quick as, but there has been/is a pandemic. Surely possible that has had an effect on getting the job done, but going by the context of JBs words, it would suggest not. Have we been a shambles here, or is it just JB having a pop for no reason and to bolster his, when i get my way image Sorry for the cynicism
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Post by peterparker on Apr 16, 2021 16:52:49 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch āreal footballā in the champions league. As far as Iām concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more ārealā than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy. Bloke has no tact though does he.
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Post by clockendgas on Apr 16, 2021 17:02:35 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch āreal footballā in the champions league. As far as Iām concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more ārealā than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy. Yes I'm actually thinking of boycotting the champions league when we are playing in it,probably won't be allowed out the nursing home then anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 17:23:49 GMT
We are a shambles. Players told off for using the gym after a Saturday game, because somebody wanted to lock up and go home. This, at a time when other gyms were closed, and players were doing their best to maintain fitness.
No amount of due diligence would have prepared JB for discovering this sort of attitude at a so called professional club. Wael is too soft, and some of the people he trusted to be in charge of things have taken advantage. Hopefully JB can help sort out the bad apples, and help Wael to take the club forward.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2021 17:28:26 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. Why would Wael have a clue when he's from a banking background and not even based in the UK, he's relying upon the likes of Hamer and Starnes to have the knowledge required to run the club? Perhaps a season too late you have to sense that Barton has highlighted just how poorly the club has been run since the takeover (and probably for years, decades, even before that!). Just a pity we didn't replace GC with an experienced manager as he may have also raised similar concerns.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 16, 2021 17:40:21 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. I mean, I am sure there is insurance and private medical stuff that gets players in for injuries and ops as quick as, but there has been/is a pandemic. Surely possible that has had an effect on getting the job done, but going by the context of JBs words, it would suggest not. Have we been a shambles here, or is it just JB having a pop for no reason and to bolster his, when i get my way image Sorry for the cynicism Don't get me wrong, I also thought that the delay in Nicholson getting surgery has probably been pandemic-related. Also, whether what JB says is true or not (maybe it is), his statements only really serve to paint the club in a really bad light, making JB look blameless and throw a big dark cloud over what was already a sh** situation. The whole fact that JB has been brought in to revolutionise a revolution that in itself only started a year ago, is just embarrassing. Resetting the reset. It just highlights how much a cockup it has all been, and sadly I have lost all faith in the club to get it right. They got it wrong spectacularly before, so what makes anyone think we'll get it right this time, and the next time? It seems like just firing shots into the dark and hoping one of them eventually hits its target.
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Post by fredandflo on Apr 16, 2021 17:42:04 GMT
Thought Barton could have been at least a little more tactful when he said that he flipped over from watching Lincoln vs MK Dons (our next two opponents) to watch āreal footballā in the champions league. As far as Iām concerned Tuesday night League One under the lights is more ārealā than watching the overpaid, over-commercialised Champions League footy. Bloke has no tact though does he.
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Post by Jomo on Apr 16, 2021 17:45:20 GMT
Said he's been given guarantees of control over many elements of the club. Somewhat at odds with the promotion to DoF for T-Widdz! JB has also blasted the medical department in another article regarding Nicholson's delayed surgery. Likely not to be available at the start of next season. Honestly I don't know what to think. JB may well be right, but everything coming out of the club at the moment screams "shambles". I love Wael, but he really does not have a clue what he's doing does he? Or am I wrong? The strategy seems to change like the wind changes direction. Well meaning, likeable, generous, but completely lacking in foresight and direction. Why would Wael have a clue when he's from a banking background and not even based in the UK, he's relying upon the likes of Hamer and Starnes to have the knowledge required to run the club? Perhaps a season too late you have to sense that Barton has highlighted just how poorly the club has been run since the takeover (and probably for years, decades, even before that!). Just a pity we didn't replace GC with an experienced manager as he may have also raised similar concerns. That is true, but surely he as President has to calculate who to employ in order to get the club running in the way he wants. First he brought in Hamer as chairman, that didn't work. He brought in Starnes as CEO and Widdrington as DoF. Well, JB now comes in a says the whole place stinks. Does Wael even know who he can trust? It's all a bit ridiculous in my view. Interesting comments from JB about bringing in a third party to review the structure/infrastructure. I wonder what will come of that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 17:56:07 GMT
Why would Wael have a clue when he's from a banking background and not even based in the UK, he's relying upon the likes of Hamer and Starnes to have the knowledge required to run the club? Perhaps a season too late you have to sense that Barton has highlighted just how poorly the club has been run since the takeover (and probably for years, decades, even before that!). Just a pity we didn't replace GC with an experienced manager as he may have also raised similar concerns. That is true, but surely he as President has to calculate who to employ in order to get the club running in the way he wants. First he brought in Hamer as chairman, that didn't work. He brought in Starnes as CEO and Widdrington as DoF. Well, JB now comes in a says the whole place stinks. Does Wael even know who he can trust? It's all a bit ridiculous in my view. Interesting comments from JB about bringing in a third party to review the structure/infrastructure. I wonder what will come of that. I think Gorringe, the girls in the office, and the groundstaff are probably the only non footballing people I'd trust at the moment. I'm sure that the review has been planned as a result of JB's frank conversations with Wael. The fact this has not been instigated by Starnes speaks volumes, in my opinion.
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Post by theduke on Apr 16, 2021 18:03:54 GMT
We are a shambles. Players told off for using the gym after a Saturday game, because somebody wanted to lock up and go home. This, at a time when other gyms were closed, and players were doing their best to maintain fitness. No amount of due diligence would have prepared JB for discovering this sort of attitude at a so called professional club. Wael is too soft, and some of the people he trusted to be in charge of things have taken advantage. Hopefully JB can help sort out the bad apples, and help Wael to take the club forward. Completely agree. We're a club where, not that long ago, members of the first team squad were picking up fox sh1t in order to get training on and players had to go through their rehab in public facilities. I'd imagine Joey's head would have exploded were he here when the staff were dishing out the bin bags before training.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 16, 2021 18:11:21 GMT
Why would Wael have a clue when he's from a banking background and not even based in the UK, he's relying upon the likes of Hamer and Starnes to have the knowledge required to run the club? Perhaps a season too late you have to sense that Barton has highlighted just how poorly the club has been run since the takeover (and probably for years, decades, even before that!). Just a pity we didn't replace GC with an experienced manager as he may have also raised similar concerns. That is true, but surely he as President has to calculate who to employ in order to get the club running in the way he wants. First he brought in Hamer as chairman, that didn't work. He brought in Starnes as CEO and Widdrington as DoF. Well, JB now comes in a says the whole place stinks. Does Wael even know who he can trust? It's all a bit ridiculous in my view. Interesting comments from JB about bringing in a third party to review the structure/infrastructure. I wonder what will come of that. The guy chosen seems an odd choice to comment on how a league club should be led: CHRIS GIBSON MEMBER OF THE MILITARY FOR 34 YEARS WHO SPECIALISES IN MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND LARGE-SCALE TRAINING Unless JB is planning to go to war next season in L2! I guess it sums up how poorly we are run when the CEO/DoF have to seek advice on experts to use from the manager!
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Post by aghast on Apr 16, 2021 18:19:41 GMT
Expect a terse press release very soon.
"Martyn Starnes and Tommy Widdrington have left Bristol Rovers with immediate effect. The club would like to thank them for their contributions during their time here. The club will be making no further comment at this stage."
Or summat like that.
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Post by 4d on Apr 16, 2021 20:41:08 GMT
Lol if Barton thinks the club is a shambles now Iād love to know what he would have made of it at any point in the last 40 years because weāre in a better position off the field now than we have been at any point in recent memory.
The cynic would say if Gerry Francis could get us into the championship with the cards he was dealt Barton should just shut up and think himself lucky. That said if he thinks he can get Wael to turn us into the sort of elite premier league club heās used to Iām all for it.
Last time anyone tried to modernise the club (Turl, Spencer etc) they were soon sent packing so letās hope this time itās for real...
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