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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 18:16:22 GMT
So Keynsham Rover you don't want to see Anderson as left wing back again but the same yesterday could be said of Rodman at right wing back where we were also torn apart and yet the game before people were raving about both!! I am not a great admirer of the three at the back but most teams play it. If you are going to find fault with individuals yesterday the look no further than the centre backs who were dreadful but just as easy you could look at the midfield and forwards. Yesterrday was just a dreadful start by the team and just got worse and worse. Who would have thought that a Crawley team who had Tony Craig at the back would lose 6-3 at Forest Green. It was a bad day at the office-it happens. The issue is surely at home they play like wingers with little need to tackle, away from home they need to play like full backs but neither seems to be that great a tackler/defender. To be a decent wing back you need to be a player like Leadbitter or Leary, I fear that neither of them is capable of playing that role, hopefully, Clarke's back tomorrow and he is a genuine LWB, although that then still leaves the RWB role only covered by Rodman. For all Barton's chopping and changing the squad still seems lacking. Clarke is two weeks away from a return according to JB at today's press conference.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Aug 27, 2021 18:26:24 GMT
Would be over the moon to see Ellis back, great attitude on and off the pitch. Agreed,can’t see us affording him unless JCH gets a move like now.Way better than Hanlon.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 27, 2021 21:38:41 GMT
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Post by percy on Aug 27, 2021 21:44:41 GMT
Must be a few clubs hoping a cheap loan becomes available for players like Ellis that might not make their squad cut?
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 27, 2021 21:45:57 GMT
I think it's unlikely but I'd be very happy with Ellis.
He's the sort of forward we need.
Scored 14 goals in his final season with us in L1 and at 27 is still in his prime.
Think he'd probably cost about £300k though and his wages are likely to be a problem having been at Ipswich and Portsmouth.
Still, not out the question as it looks like Portsmouth want rid and there aren't currently any takers.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 27, 2021 23:17:03 GMT
I think it's unlikely but I'd be very happy with Ellis.
He's the sort of forward we need.
Scored 14 goals in his final season with us in L1 and at 27 is still in his prime.
Think he'd probably cost about £300k though and his wages are likely to be a problem having been at Ipswich and Portsmouth.
Still, not out the question as it looks like Portsmouth want rid and there aren't currently any takers.
I'm not in the know but don't imagine a fee is likely to be an issue. I suspect he's on a healthy wage down here with one year left. Could even be a case for a new club to offer him lower terms for a season or two after 21/22 - with us making up the difference for the remainder of this season. If I'm honest, I'd expect him to sign somewhere in L1 if the interest is there, but it does sound as though some of the earlier interest at that level has cooled.
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Post by axegas on Aug 27, 2021 23:22:04 GMT
If I’m honest I wouldn’t have let Hanlan go without lining up a replacement first. Yeah I know Hanlan was running out of contract but I think if he had started scoring goals keeping him would have been a better scenario for us than one that potentially leaves us with just three natural strikers like we had last year, with one of them currently injured.
Yet again I question why the board keep sanctioning sales very close to the deadline without replacements already agreed. Screws us over every year yet they keep doing it.
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Post by Jomo on Aug 27, 2021 23:25:52 GMT
If I’m honest I wouldn’t have let Hanlan go without lining up a replacement first. Yeah I know Hanlan was running out of contract but I think if he had started scoring goals keeping him would have been a better scenario for us than one that potentially leaves us with just three natural strikers like we had last year, with one of them currently injured. Yet again I question why the board keep sanctioning sales very close to the deadline without replacements already agreed. Screws us over every year yet they keep doing it. It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 27, 2021 23:30:27 GMT
If I’m honest I wouldn’t have let Hanlan go without lining up a replacement first. Yeah I know Hanlan was running out of contract but I think if he had started scoring goals keeping him would have been a better scenario for us than one that potentially leaves us with just three natural strikers like we had last year, with one of them currently injured. Yet again I question why the board keep sanctioning sales very close to the deadline without replacements already agreed. Screws us over every year yet they keep doing it.
Pitman has some quality but it would be some gamble to rely on his returns, not least because of his recent fitness issues. On that basis I can't believe you've not got irons in the fire with regard to another striker.
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Post by pirate on Aug 27, 2021 23:33:29 GMT
If I’m honest I wouldn’t have let Hanlan go without lining up a replacement first. Yeah I know Hanlan was running out of contract but I think if he had started scoring goals keeping him would have been a better scenario for us than one that potentially leaves us with just three natural strikers like we had last year, with one of them currently injured. Yet again I question why the board keep sanctioning sales very close to the deadline without replacements already agreed. Screws us over every year yet they keep doing it. It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. A sufficient replacement should have already been agreed or in the building. Another aspect of the Hanlan deal that shows their incompetence is not having a years option on the contract. We just don't learn our lessons. How Starnes remains in a job is beyond me.
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Post by frattonender on Aug 27, 2021 23:38:38 GMT
It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. A sufficient replacement should have already been agreed or in the building. Another aspect of the Hanlan deal that shows their incompetence is not having a years option on the contract. We just don't learn our lessons. How Starnes remains in a job is beyond me.
re. the option - agree wholeheartedly, particularly if you've paid a fee or gone to a tribunal for a player and if it's less than three years for the initial deal.
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Post by axegas on Aug 27, 2021 23:44:28 GMT
If I’m honest I wouldn’t have let Hanlan go without lining up a replacement first. Yeah I know Hanlan was running out of contract but I think if he had started scoring goals keeping him would have been a better scenario for us than one that potentially leaves us with just three natural strikers like we had last year, with one of them currently injured. Yet again I question why the board keep sanctioning sales very close to the deadline without replacements already agreed. Screws us over every year yet they keep doing it. It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. We’ve let the situation get out of our control again, like last year. If we’d stalled on the Hanlan deal, aggressively scouted around for a replacement, we could’ve then either got someone in or stuck with Hanlan. Now neither of those things happening is a real possibility if the marketplace is as bad as JB says it is. I’m just not that enthused by our current forward line. Pittman, is on his day a goal scorer and a fairly prolific one at that, however he’s now getting on a bit and has fitness issues hanging over his head. Then Saunders and Collins who look like decent footballers from what I’ve seen so far but are still waiting to get to the stage in their careers where they are able to turn into regular goal scorers. Don’t get me wrong, I think we’ve got a decent forward line for L2. It just doesn’t for me scream promotion quality and worse still it lacks depth.
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Post by axegas on Aug 27, 2021 23:52:11 GMT
It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. A sufficient replacement should have already been agreed or in the building. Another aspect of the Hanlan deal that shows their incompetence is not having a years option on the contract. We just don't learn our lessons. How Starnes remains in a job is beyond me. I have no idea why we never insist on extension options on contracts like most other clubs do. Think how different things might have turned out if Bodin and JCH had one year options or alternatively Bennett had signed for two years plus one optional year rather than three.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 8:20:55 GMT
It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. A sufficient replacement should have already been agreed or in the building. Another aspect of the Hanlan deal that shows their incompetence is not having a years option on the contract. We just don't learn our lessons. How Starnes remains in a job is beyond me. Totally agree .... Until Starnes is cut loose, our club will continue to dance like a kite in a hurricane before crashing to the ground and breaking needing more tape to hold it together. Sadly though Wael does not see the problem that is right in front of him.... staring back devoid of football knowledge, behaviour and accountability.
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Post by Quarters on Aug 28, 2021 8:26:01 GMT
It's a recurring theme, and the logical conclusion is that they're incompetent. The footballing decision making and general strategy has been lamentable since DC/GC. A sufficient replacement should have already been agreed or in the building. Another aspect of the Hanlan deal that shows their incompetence is not having a years option on the contract. We just don't learn our lessons. How Starnes remains in a job is beyond me. The reason for the two year contract was because the fee was going to a tribunal, any longer contract would have, probably, led to a larger fee. So a difficult balancing act.
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Post by gasmania on Aug 28, 2021 13:34:03 GMT
Local reporter, Andrew Moon I think, saying Rovers and Cheltenham have also registered an interest.
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 28, 2021 13:45:45 GMT
Local reporter, Andrew Moon I think, saying Rovers and Cheltenham have also registered an interest. Harrison and Norwood . Would be the two to go for
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 28, 2021 13:47:14 GMT
Local reporter, Andrew Moon I think, saying Rovers and Cheltenham have also registered an interest. Can we compete with the giants of Cheltenham?
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 28, 2021 21:36:46 GMT
Enquired, but he doesn’t want to come back I was told.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 28, 2021 21:37:40 GMT
Local reporter, Andrew Moon I think, saying Rovers and Cheltenham have also registered an interest. Harrison and Norwood . Would be the two to go for Was told today that Norwood is on 10k a week and in no hurry to leave.
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