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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:35:31 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager.
On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**.
He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2021 19:42:01 GMT
If it works it will be brilliant.
If it doesn't, it's one hell of a mess.
I guess its WAQs money, it will be him footing the bill.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 8, 2021 19:43:01 GMT
It makes more sense than when we let Garninho assemble the squad last summer.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:43:30 GMT
Its a massive risk and i dont see what the confidence is based upon ?
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:44:50 GMT
It makes more sense than when we let Garninho assemble the squad last summer. To be fair it doesnt as Garner was a rookie manager working with the support of the dof. JB is appointing directors and sacking the medical team. He is still a very inexperienced manager himself.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 8, 2021 19:45:01 GMT
Me neither lol
That said, we have been a shambles for so long, what's the harm?
It's not like JB is going to make us any worse is it.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:49:48 GMT
Dont tempt fate Hugo
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 8, 2021 19:50:22 GMT
It makes more sense than when we let Garninho assemble the squad last summer. To be fair it doesnt as Garner was a rookie manager working with the support of the dof. JB is appointing directors and sacking the medical team. He is still a very inexperienced manager himself. Will have to disagree. Garner was a coach who’d never had a game in the professional realm. He had 20 odd games with a squad who had been punching at the top end of the league and got 2 wins from them. The klaxons should have been warning at that point. At least Barton has a background to him of having reasonable success at a different club and a playing career at the highest level. Barton did alright at fleetwood. Yes he had a decent budget but they’re hardly a big club. At least either way, Wael is setting out a vision and kitting us out to have a go. Even if he may be picking the wrong men to execute it.
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Post by aghast on Jun 8, 2021 19:50:48 GMT
It worries me too. If it works, lovely. If it doesn't we'll be in deep doo-doo, with a complete rebuild required yet again, since Joey will have basically taken over the club with the exception of paying the bills.
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 8, 2021 19:51:55 GMT
A club that is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has its weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of….….
.…..has put its faith in a man who is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has his weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of.
I get it.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:53:32 GMT
Yes letting JB take over the club when he struggled so badly on arrival here is an odd one. Being intelligent doesnt make you a guaranteed success just like being wealthy doesnt make you a good football club owner.
That aside im looking forward to watching football again so heres hoping. Im also basically always wrong when it comes to our managers which is reassuring
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Post by gregsy on Jun 8, 2021 19:54:33 GMT
We start next season on zero points level with everyone else....
And thats about as far as my thoughts can take me at the moment....
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Post by pirate on Jun 8, 2021 19:55:25 GMT
It is strange, but nothing surprises me at this club. Doesn't seem to be any joined up thinking over the past couple of years and I wouldn't trust those at the top to run a car boot sale, let alone a professional football club.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 19:56:56 GMT
Totally agree Pirate
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Post by phillistine on Jun 8, 2021 20:06:04 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. Appointing Directors? i think that you will find that Wael appoints Directors . He may have been introduced by JB but the guy has an impressive cv and seemingly has a good pedigree and contacts. Sometimes you will find that a Board is made up of mates who dont like to give each other a hard time and maybe become a little too comfortable . An external non executive will ruffle some feathers if he doesnt like what he sees. He studied the Rovers over a period of time, prepared a report and so must have shown that he had a role to play - regardless of who introduced him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 20:07:23 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. I get where you are coming from Dins. My advice? Get yourself over to the what’s for dinner thread, enjoy the Euros, crack a beer, hug your family (before the Martian variant arrives) and worry about this sh1t in August. Like Hugo said the way things are going it feels like a coin toss. The last coin toss Rovers were involved in wasn’t successful so we are due one, right? Right lads?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 8, 2021 20:11:05 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. Appointing Directors? i think that you will find that Wael appoints Directors . He may have been introduced by JB but the guy has an impressive cv and seemingly has a good pedigree and contacts. Sometimes you will find that a Board is made up of mates who dont like to give each other a hard time and maybe become a little too comfortable . An external non executive will ruffle some feathers if he doesnt like what he sees. He studied the Rovers over a period of time, prepared a report and so must have shown that he had a role to play - regardless of who introduced him An interesting point. It may have been Joeys idea to bring him onboard as a consultant (one off basis) but it may have been Waels to add him to the board.
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 8, 2021 20:20:15 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. I get where you are coming from Dins. My advice? Get yourself over to the what’s for dinner thread, enjoy the Euros, crack a beer, hug your family (before the Martian variant arrives) and worry about this sh1t in August. Like Hugo said the way things are going it feels like a coin toss. The last coin toss Rovers were involved in wasn’t successful so we are due one, right? Right lads? Appreciate the kindness but don’t worry alls good with me just wanted to discuss this oddity. Looking forward to Melksham
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Post by pirate on Jun 8, 2021 20:21:14 GMT
Appointing Directors? i think that you will find that Wael appoints Directors . He may have been introduced by JB but the guy has an impressive cv and seemingly has a good pedigree and contacts. Sometimes you will find that a Board is made up of mates who dont like to give each other a hard time and maybe become a little too comfortable . An external non executive will ruffle some feathers if he doesnt like what he sees. He studied the Rovers over a period of time, prepared a report and so must have shown that he had a role to play - regardless of who introduced him An interesting point. It may have been Joeys idea to bring him onboard as a consultant (one off basis) but it may have been Waels to add him to the board. Wael also thought it was a good idea to add Widders to the board. 😂
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 8, 2021 20:24:48 GMT
To be fair it doesnt as Garner was a rookie manager working with the support of the dof. JB is appointing directors and sacking the medical team. He is still a very inexperienced manager himself. Will have to disagree. Garner was a coach who’d never had a game in the professional realm. He had 20 odd games with a squad who had been punching at the top end of the league and got 2 wins from them. The klaxons should have been warning at that point. At least Barton has a background to him of having reasonable success at a different club and a playing career at the highest level. Barton did alright at fleetwood. Yes he had a decent budget but they’re hardly a big club. At least either way, Wael is setting out a vision and kitting us out to have a go. Even if he may be picking the wrong men to execute it. Can you tell us what vision he's setting? He's gone from Garnerball to Joey's Mates seemingly overnight. You could argue Barton will do a better job than Garner but he was hardly a great success at Fleetwood given the money he was allowed to spend.
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