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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 15:09:40 GMT
I think Wael is too easily impressed and takes too much on trust. Someone tells a good story and dear old Wael seems to buy into it all and off the club goes in another direction. We've seen chairmen, directors, consultants, managers, coaches etc come and go. All are wonderful till they are not.
Next season is a make or break one. If his trust in Joey and the encourage comes good fine but if not I just don't know what happens...well I guess it's back to Tommy again if he survives the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 15:15:21 GMT
Another pointless thread yet more Barton bashing I do despair I guess Barton just divides the fanbase. I guess a lot don't worry about whose managing the club as long as it does OK. Another group seem starstruck by him and another group just don't want him at the club. The bashing does no good but neither does blind faith in someone who has achieve nothing at the club so far. We are where we are... It will be interesting to look back in a year or two. |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 9, 2021 15:27:39 GMT
What is this 'blind faith' people keep harping on about?
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Post by Big Jock on Jun 9, 2021 15:33:26 GMT
What is this 'blind faith' people keep harping on about? Dinnae know pal, but I did something a little different an visited a faith healer las night ……… I gotta tell ye he was f**king sh1t! Even th bloke in th wheelchair got up an walked out! |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 9, 2021 15:46:48 GMT
Another pointless thread yet more Barton bashing I do despair I guess Barton just divides the fanbase. I guess a lot don't worry about whose managing the club as long as it does OK. Another group seem starstruck by him and another group just don't want him at the club. The bashing does no good but neither does blind faith in someone who has achieve nothing at the club so far. We are where we are... It will be interesting to look back in a year or two. I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 9, 2021 16:14:09 GMT
I guess Barton just divides the fanbase. I guess a lot don't worry about whose managing the club as long as it does OK. Another group seem starstruck by him and another group just don't want him at the club. The bashing does no good but neither does blind faith in someone who has achieve nothing at the club so far. We are where we are... It will be interesting to look back in a year or two. I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. Exactky. The majority don’t even know of yet alone post or read any forum |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 9, 2021 16:33:02 GMT
I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. Exactky. The majority don’t even know of yet alone post or read any forum me wife is 27 and she says “forums are for old people” I’m only late 30s but I thought forums were cutting edge and pubs and actual real discourse were for old people |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jun 9, 2021 17:24:22 GMT
Only time will tell, although I am definitely prepared to give Joey a chance, surely he will do better than the visionary Garner, and or "I cannot work miracles" Tisdale. Surely, hmm.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 9, 2021 18:45:29 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. I think after a lifetime of following football you get to realise no one really knows what they’re doing. Its generally down to pot luck and money. I wouldn’t worry about it too much there will be another grand plan along in another couple of years. I guess the GC/JCH period supports that view? Perhaps JB can unearth another JCH or two. |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 9, 2021 20:02:01 GMT
This isn’t meant to be another bash Joey thread so bare with me. Does anyone else find it really odd that as a club we have given a man who has struggled to win a game as manager complete autonomy over so much of the club? From appointing directors to sacking our medical and sports science staff and operating outside of our recruitment structure. This isnt a manager with a proven track record its a big name ex player with a couple of seasons under his belt as a manager. On top of all of this is the court case his questionable temperament and our precarious position in the league. It all just feels a completely odd way of going about things and if this goes wrong we really are in the sh**. He clearly deserves a longer go as manager but all our eggs in the Joey basket is likely to result in pain down the line. If this goes tits up we are going to look incredibly silly. I think after a lifetime of following football you get to realise no one really knows what they’re doing. Its generally down to pot luck and money. I wouldn’t worry about it too much there will be another grand plan along in another couple of years. I thought it was about minor tactical things like having a high line at the back and playing wingers. |
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 9, 2021 21:08:56 GMT
I guess Barton just divides the fanbase. I guess a lot don't worry about whose managing the club as long as it does OK. Another group seem starstruck by him and another group just don't want him at the club. The bashing does no good but neither does blind faith in someone who has achieve nothing at the club so far. We are where we are... It will be interesting to look back in a year or two. I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. Hi to note this isnt an anti JB thread. Happy for him to have a chance but having a fairly new manager who has barely won a game for us since arriving be given the level of authority over non playing matters is completely unusual. The ability to hire and fire medical and fitness staff and bring his friends onto the board. That is the point of the thread thats been lost amongst the yawns and accusations of not backing him. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 9, 2021 21:27:02 GMT
A club that is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has its weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of….…. .…..has put its faith in a man who is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has his weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of. I get it. Well said jock me too 💙utg |
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Post by jw5992 on Jun 9, 2021 21:28:29 GMT
Its a massive risk and i dont see what the confidence is based upon ? Presumably the the highlights WAQ used to watch when Chelsea were first winning trophies! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 9, 2021 22:09:32 GMT
I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. Hi to note this isnt an anti JB thread. Happy for him to have a chance but having a fairly new manager who has barely won a game for us since arriving be given the level of authority over non playing matters is completely unusual. The ability to hire and fire medical and fitness staff and bring his friends onto the board. That is the point of the thread thats been lost amongst the yawns and accusations of not backing him. Wasn't DC given similar control? Isn't that how football management works they all bring in their own staff? I can't see JB brought Gibson (who's not a friend?) on to the board, that had to be Wael's own choice. |
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Post by aghast on Jun 9, 2021 22:43:01 GMT
A club that is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has its weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of….…. .…..has put its faith in a man who is a bit f**ked up has had many highs an lows an has his weaknesses but some notable strengths and still dreams of good times an showin everyone what their capable of. I get it. Well said jock me too 💙utg When you two meet to share an overcooked Memorial Stadium sausage roll, it's going to be a beautiful moment. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 9, 2021 23:26:30 GMT
😄😄😄💙💙💙
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 10, 2021 6:06:58 GMT
Hi to note this isnt an anti JB thread. Happy for him to have a chance but having a fairly new manager who has barely won a game for us since arriving be given the level of authority over non playing matters is completely unusual. The ability to hire and fire medical and fitness staff and bring his friends onto the board. That is the point of the thread thats been lost amongst the yawns and accusations of not backing him. Wasn't DC given similar control? Isn't that how football management works they all bring in their own staff? I can't see JB brought Gibson (who's not a friend?) on to the board, that had to be Wael's own choice. No JB brought Gibson in. Im not sure DC was hiring and firing the medical department and putting his mates on the board after his first period at the club. |
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Post by dinsdale on Jun 10, 2021 6:15:08 GMT
Anyway lets hope its a stroke of genius.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 10, 2021 6:26:02 GMT
Wasn't DC given similar control? Isn't that how football management works they all bring in their own staff? I can't see JB brought Gibson (who's not a friend?) on to the board, that had to be Wael's own choice. No JB brought Gibson in. Im not sure DC was hiring and firing the medical department and putting his mates on the board after his first period at the club. Where's the proof JB made Gibson a board member just because he introduce him to Wael doesn't mean he then made him a board member? Your just repeating the type of nonsense spouted on the other forum. Regardless the proof will be in the pudding, if JB's a success nobody will worry who he's brought in to assist him. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Jun 10, 2021 6:35:03 GMT
I think in the wider fan base it’s probably 85% at least want Barton. Forums tend to feature disagreeable and opinionated people. That isn’t a criticism, I am one of them. Hi to note this isnt an anti JB thread. Happy for him to have a chance but having a fairly new manager who has barely won a game for us since arriving be given the level of authority over non playing matters is completely unusual. The ability to hire and fire medical and fitness staff and bring his friends onto the board. That is the point of the thread thats been lost amongst the yawns and accusations of not backing him. You’ve just made this post, even more boring now 👏🏾👏🏾 |
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