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Post by kentgas on Jun 26, 2021 22:07:36 GMT
Rodman, Westbrooke
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Post by CrispPusher on Jun 26, 2021 22:17:21 GMT
Still hoping we can shift Baldwin, Barrett and Westbrooke in order to fund our next signings; however they're dreadful cannot envisage any clubs taking them on, so think we're lumbered with them unfortunately.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Jun 26, 2021 22:17:49 GMT
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Post by stevek192 on Jun 27, 2021 9:04:49 GMT
Liddle, Tomlinson, Mehew,
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 27, 2021 9:55:12 GMT
Liddle, Tomlinson, Mehew, Not sure I'd consider any of them as 1st teamers, more just squad players/fillers. When you add Rodman and Westbrook to my earlier list it's surprising how many of last season's players are still at the club, it seems JB's just moving on most of BG's/PT's signings.
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Post by stevek192 on Jun 27, 2021 9:56:25 GMT
It is far more than 14 out if you are considering loans. Bennett,Kelly,Warwick,Armstrong,AndreJnr,Koiki,Upson,Van SEDWtapper,Hare,Little,Ogogo,Davies,Williams,Leahey,Oztumer,McCormick,Day,Daley,Ehmer,Tutonda. By my reckoning that is 20 players gone with 7 in I reckon there are still 5 or 6 more signings and we could do with getting rid of players like Hargreaves,Liddle and Baldwin or Harries still. I would say we need two full backs,another GK,a winger, a central midfielder attacking and a targetman.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 27, 2021 9:59:32 GMT
Steve K you are correct 20 players have left including the 3 loan players and 7 coming in
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 27, 2021 14:37:26 GMT
Ayunga to be league 2's top scorer next season. Well I hope he has improved massively over the summer. Last season he played like he was at Bath City. Non league
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jun 27, 2021 14:56:28 GMT
Ayunga to be league 2's top scorer next season. Well I hope he has improved massively over the summer. Last season he played like he was at Bath City. Non league No goals.Simply not up to it.If we can't unload then needs to go out on loan somewhere like Bath City.One of many very mediocre players.We need to raise our standards massively to avoid the decline as defined by our final league position.
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Post by pirate on Jun 27, 2021 14:56:56 GMT
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 27, 2021 15:02:41 GMT
Liddle, Tomlinson, Mehew, Not sure I'd consider any of them as 1st teamers, more just squad players/fillers. When you add Rodman and Westbrook to my earlier list it's surprising how many of last season's players are still at the club, it seems JB's just moving on most of BG's/PT's signings. Must be costing a few quid to terminate contracts ?
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Post by pucklegas on Jun 27, 2021 15:15:23 GMT
Thought he would be coming here ffs
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 27, 2021 15:43:30 GMT
Still think we are lacking another 'number 9' option. Ffs...number 9...🥱 Why can't we just say we need a big target man instead of a false 9 or whatever lingo Sky and Pep has pushed into our mind in the past few years! No offense to you, I just hate terms like " a false number 9" or number 10 etc.. Oh how I long for a return of the Fergie and Keegan days of football! A number 9 has nothing to do with the modern “false 9” and has been long established in post war football. Number 9 is centre forward - the big target man. A number 10 is a skilled playmaker type. There is nothing sky sports about it, these are long established terms, and nothing to do with the “false 9” or “second striker” modern terms.
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Post by LJG on Jun 27, 2021 16:36:08 GMT
Ffs...number 9...🥱 Why can't we just say we need a big target man instead of a false 9 or whatever lingo Sky and Pep has pushed into our mind in the past few years! No offense to you, I just hate terms like " a false number 9" or number 10 etc.. Oh how I long for a return of the Fergie and Keegan days of football! A number 9 has nothing to do with the modern “false 9” and has been long established in post war football. Number 9 is centre forward - the big target man. A number 10 is a skilled playmaker type. There is nothing sky sports about it, these are long established terms, and nothing to do with the “false 9” or “second striker” modern terms. Indeed. It goes back to the day when there were no squad numbers rather your number indicated the position you played. I'm not old enough to remember but I believe, in the early days of substitutions being brought in the player coming on would have the shirt of the one departing the field for that reason.
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Post by poorblue on Jun 27, 2021 16:38:23 GMT
Ffs...number 9...🥱 Why can't we just say we need a big target man instead of a false 9 or whatever lingo Sky and Pep has pushed into our mind in the past few years! No offense to you, I just hate terms like " a false number 9" or number 10 etc.. Oh how I long for a return of the Fergie and Keegan days of football! A number 9 has nothing to do with the modern “false 9” and has been long established in post war football. Number 9 is centre forward - the big target man. A number 10 is a skilled playmaker type. There is nothing sky sports about it, these are long established terms, and nothing to do with the “false 9” or “second striker” modern terms. FFS we are still woefully short of players. We still don't have a centre forward, no inside right or inside left, no left or right winger, no left or right half back. We do have a goalkeeper who is injury prone and was the best keeper in L1 but now in L2 so is he staying? and only a 18y/o as deputy. I think we have left back but have got rid of the right backs. Keep the faith we WILL get promoted this season??? UTG
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 27, 2021 17:05:35 GMT
A number 9 has nothing to do with the modern “false 9” and has been long established in post war football. Number 9 is centre forward - the big target man. A number 10 is a skilled playmaker type. There is nothing sky sports about it, these are long established terms, and nothing to do with the “false 9” or “second striker” modern terms. FFS we are still woefully short of players. We still don't have a centre forward, no inside right or inside left, no left or right winger, no left or right half back. We do have a goalkeeper who is injury prone and was the best keeper in L1 but now in L2 so is he staying? and only a 18y/o as deputy. I think we have left back but have got rid of the right backs. Keep the faith we WILL get promoted this season??? UTG Ayunga is a centre forward, a classic No 9.
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Post by Quarters on Jun 27, 2021 18:08:40 GMT
A number 9 has nothing to do with the modern “false 9” and has been long established in post war football. Number 9 is centre forward - the big target man. A number 10 is a skilled playmaker type. There is nothing sky sports about it, these are long established terms, and nothing to do with the “false 9” or “second striker” modern terms. Indeed. It goes back to the day when there were no squad numbers rather your number indicated the position you played. I'm not old enough to remember but I believe, in the early days of substitutions being brought in the player coming on would have the shirt of the one departing the field for that reason. Nah, they wore No 12. The numbers meant nothing really, just 1 - 11 so could be identified. Gould use to give Mabbutt the No 9 shirt then play him center half as I recall it.
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Post by james246 on Jun 28, 2021 6:32:19 GMT
Thought he would be coming here ffs After the two signings announced last week I suspected Conor was not on his way here. A target man seems to be a possibility though
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 28, 2021 7:34:33 GMT
Jonah Ayunga Age 24 League games 20 goals 2. goal ratio 1/10 Aaron Collins Age 24 League games 82 goals 14. goal ratio 1/6 Brandon Hanlan Age 24 League games 145 goals 20. goal ratio 1/7 Harvey Saunders Age 24 League games 29 goals 3. goal ratio 1/10 So what do you think, a strong line up of strikers? Age is certainly on their side if nothing else. Anyone see a 15-20 goal a season player there? Hanlan looks the best? but we all saw him play last season Who will Barton pick, can't see him playing all four at best it's two of them but which two? Pretty sure our resident Stats-man can and probably already has put together stats that are more representative of their performances as strikers in respect of goals per minutes on the pitch in that role. Saunders first two appearances for Fleetwood were for thirteen minutes and two minutes. Yet both of these are represented as one game here. Ayunga too was a sub a lot of the time. Neither Collins nor Hanlan have been out and out strikers in their careers so a goals per game ratio is not representative of what they do as a central striker over a prolonged period of time. In fact Hanlan’s ratio is quite good for a wideman and compares favourably with Isgrove, Nicholson and young Thomas we were linked with. Collins was forced to be the main striker at FGR at the end of the season when Matt was injured and his ratio was decent then. Saunders did well until Fleetwood chose to rely on their experienced strikers and he was forced to feed off scraps. Hanlan adapted reasonably well to the central role initially, then did less well playing through injury and lost confidence towards the end of the season. Ayunga was injured before he really got going, stuttered upon his return and wasn’t experienced enough to pull himself and us out of the hole that had been dug. A been there done that character in training alongside these four could turn any one of them into a success story this season. Attachment DeletedUTG
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 28, 2021 7:35:41 GMT
Indeed. It goes back to the day when there were no squad numbers rather your number indicated the position you played. I'm not old enough to remember but I believe, in the early days of substitutions being brought in the player coming on would have the shirt of the one departing the field for that reason. Nah, they wore No 12. The numbers meant nothing really, just 1 - 11 so could be identified. Gould use to give Mabbutt the No 9 shirt then play him center half as I recall it. Yep. I remember being totally bewildered at Wimbledon when Archie Stephens ran out wearing the number 2 shirt and Steve Bailey had the number 9 on his back…wasn’t a great game!
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