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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2021 9:30:33 GMT
Has anyone kept track of how many players have left now? That should give us an idea of how many more we'll sign before the end of the window. Players still seem to be leaving on a weekly basis so it's impossible to know which players will still be here at the start of the season, from memory these are the only 1st teamers left: Jaakkola Kilgour Harries Baldwin Barrett Nicholson Hanlan Ayunga Hargreaves Walker Martinez Of that list i think the following players are safe from moving on: Jaakkola Kilgour Nicholson Hanlan Walker Martinez Every possibility the rest will be moved on.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jun 28, 2021 9:32:50 GMT
What about Ben Liddle? Is he still here? One of BG's random signings.
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Post by poorblue on Jun 28, 2021 9:41:26 GMT
FFS we are still woefully short of players. We still don't have a centre forward, no inside right or inside left, no left or right winger, no left or right half back. We do have a goalkeeper who is injury prone and was the best keeper in L1 but now in L2 so is he staying? and only a 18y/o as deputy. I think we have left back but have got rid of the right backs. Keep the faith we WILL get promoted this season??? UTG Ayunga is a centre forward, a classic No 9. Is anyone else confused what position Ayunga plays. Many on here say he plays upfront, others as a striker, others a No9 now some are saying he is a centre forward. Others say he is a front man who holds the ball up to bring others into play. Some say he plays off the shoulder. Not many seems to say he is an inside forward (remember them do they exist or are they attacking mids or wide mids probably cant be a defensive mid can he?) I assume he has been trained for at least 10 years to play football, IF some fans think he can't play I wonder if these names cause confusion and that the object is to kick or head the ball into the opposition's net! If Ayunga is a classic No 9 what was a certain slippery character and prolific goal scorer doing wearing No10? He scored with his feet and his head, he scored one on ones, he scored from distance and in the 6 yard box, he turnt his man and played off the shoulder, played out wide and cut in to score, he played up front and in the middle and scored, he dropped deep to collect the ball and scored, he beat his man with pace and scored , he was and still is an all round goal scorer and what any team needs to score goals. That's what football is all about. Yet to be seen and proven but many on here say the players we have are one type of play so do we have the next all round hero in waiting?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 9:44:13 GMT
Well I hope he has improved massively over the summer. Last season he played like he was at Bath City. Non league No goals.Simply not up to it.If we can't unload then needs to go out on loan somewhere like Bath City.One of many very mediocre players.We need to raise our standards massively to avoid the decline as defined by our final league position. not a gill type player imo
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 28, 2021 9:49:40 GMT
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 28, 2021 10:35:00 GMT
This video is great for the #9 role and its variants... I guess it will come down to Bartons preferences as to what he wants. One can assume though that a club would want a couple of number 9 options as a small man can't really be expected to be the big target man (BG you seeing this?) as much as a big guy can't really be called upon to nip around all over the place, spin off and score clinical goals... well they can, just not at our current standard/affordability.
Cheers UTG
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 28, 2021 11:44:32 GMT
Steve K you are correct 20 players have left including the 3 loan players and 7 coming in Jus t goes to show that we had far too many here last season
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 28, 2021 11:46:25 GMT
Ayunga is a centre forward, a classic No 9. Is anyone else confused what position Ayunga plays. Many on here say he plays upfront, others as a striker, others a No9 now some are saying he is a centre forward. Others say he is a front man who holds the ball up to bring others into play. Some say he plays off the shoulder. Not many seems to say he is an inside forward (remember them do they exist or are they attacking mids or wide mids probably cant be a defensive mid can he?) I assume he has been trained for at least 10 years to play football, IF some fans think he can't play I wonder if these names cause confusion and that the object is to kick or head the ball into the opposition's net! If Ayunga is a classic No 9 what was a certain slippery character and prolific goal scorer doing wearing No10? He scored with his feet and his head, he scored one on ones, he scored from distance and in the 6 yard box, he turnt his man and played off the shoulder, played out wide and cut in to score, he played up front and in the middle and scored, he dropped deep to collect the ball and scored, he beat his man with pace and scored , he was and still is an all round goal scorer and what any team needs to score goals. That's what football is all about. Yet to be seen and proven but many on here say the players we have are one type of play so do we have the next all round hero in waiting? Ayunga is non league at best, unless he has rapidliy improved over the summer, which I doubt
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Post by faggotygas on Jun 28, 2021 11:58:26 GMT
Still think we are lacking an out-and-out striker. 😘 No doubt we are, just hate the terms modern day players are called. A team's centre-forward has traditionally worn the number 9 shirt since 1928
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 28, 2021 12:11:20 GMT
It is far more than 14 out if you are considering loans. Bennett,Kelly,Warwick,Armstrong,AndreJnr,Koiki,Upson,Van SEDWtapper,Hare,Little,Ogogo,Davies,Williams,Leahey,Oztumer,McCormick,Day,Daley,Ehmer,Tutonda. By my reckoning that is 20 players gone with 7 in I reckon there are still 5 or 6 more signings and we could do with getting rid of players like Hargreaves,Liddle and Baldwin or Harries still. I would say we need two full backs,another GK,a winger, a central midfielder attacking and a targetman. Attachment DeletedMy best effort in tracking the comings and goings...
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Post by pirate on Jun 28, 2021 13:32:14 GMT
No goals.Simply not up to it.If we can't unload then needs to go out on loan somewhere like Bath City.One of many very mediocre players.We need to raise our standards massively to avoid the decline as defined by our final league position. not a gill type player imo He would welcome with open arms a player that scored 17 in 30 games at that level.
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Post by Gaswood on Jun 28, 2021 13:42:37 GMT
Is anyone else confused what position Ayunga plays. Many on here say he plays upfront, others as a striker, others a No9 now some are saying he is a centre forward. Others say he is a front man who holds the ball up to bring others into play. Some say he plays off the shoulder. Not many seems to say he is an inside forward (remember them do they exist or are they attacking mids or wide mids probably cant be a defensive mid can he?) I assume he has been trained for at least 10 years to play football, IF some fans think he can't play I wonder if these names cause confusion and that the object is to kick or head the ball into the opposition's net! If Ayunga is a classic No 9 what was a certain slippery character and prolific goal scorer doing wearing No10? He scored with his feet and his head, he scored one on ones, he scored from distance and in the 6 yard box, he turnt his man and played off the shoulder, played out wide and cut in to score, he played up front and in the middle and scored, he dropped deep to collect the ball and scored, he beat his man with pace and scored , he was and still is an all round goal scorer and what any team needs to score goals. That's what football is all about. Yet to be seen and proven but many on here say the players we have are one type of play so do we have the next all round hero in waiting? Ayunga is non league at best, unless he has rapidliy improved over the summer, which I doubt Proper ray of sunshine and optimism aren’t ya! It was his first season in the football league after jumping up a couple of divisions. He didn’t get any sort of consistent run in the team, played under 4 managers, in a much changed and unsettled side that were the worst in the division. I think he deserves a fresh start with a full pre-season before he gets criticised and torn apart. He showed some real promise at times, in a weak team too. I’ll be cheering him on and hoping he plays like he did when we had a few glimpses of what he can bring to the party last season.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 28, 2021 14:34:19 GMT
Pretty sure our resident Stats-man can and probably already has put together stats that are more representative of their performances as strikers in respect of goals per minutes on the pitch in that role. Saunders first two appearances for Fleetwood were for thirteen minutes and two minutes. Yet both of these are represented as one game here. Ayunga too was a sub a lot of the time. Neither Collins nor Hanlan have been out and out strikers in their careers so a goals per game ratio is not representative of what they do as a central striker over a prolonged period of time. In fact Hanlan’s ratio is quite good for a wideman and compares favourably with Isgrove, Nicholson and young Thomas we were linked with. Collins was forced to be the main striker at FGR at the end of the season when Matt was injured and his ratio was decent then. Saunders did well until Fleetwood chose to rely on their experienced strikers and he was forced to feed off scraps. Hanlan adapted reasonably well to the central role initially, then did less well playing through injury and lost confidence towards the end of the season. Ayunga was injured before he really got going, stuttered upon his return and wasn’t experienced enough to pull himself and us out of the hole that had been dug. A been there done that character in training alongside these four could turn any one of them into a success story this season. View AttachmentUTG Blimey really? Saunders 3 in 29 when represented as minutes on the pitch equates to 3 in 5.8 games ? That more than makes my point.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 28, 2021 14:35:52 GMT
Ayunga is non league at best, unless he has rapidliy improved over the summer, which I doubt Proper ray of sunshine and optimism aren’t ya! It was his first season in the football league after jumping up a couple of divisions. He didn’t get any sort of consistent run in the team, played under 4 managers, in a much changed and unsettled side that were the worst in the division. I think he deserves a fresh start with a full pre-season before he gets criticised and torn apart. He showed some real promise at times, in a weak team too. I’ll be cheering him on and hoping he plays like he did when we had a few glimpses of what he can bring to the party last season. Pulled his hammy too remember - awkward tear if I recall right near the start
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 28, 2021 14:46:38 GMT
Ayunga is non league at best, unless he has rapidliy improved over the summer, which I doubt Proper ray of sunshine and optimism aren’t ya! It was his first season in the football league after jumping up a couple of divisions. He didn’t get any sort of consistent run in the team, played under 4 managers, in a much changed and unsettled side that were the worst in the division. I think he deserves a fresh start with a full pre-season before he gets criticised and torn apart. He showed some real promise at times, in a weak team too. I’ll be cheering him on and hoping he plays like he did when we had a few glimpses of what he can bring to the party last season. Ha-ha, known LPG for 25 years, he has a wry sense of humour with the occasional daft pun thrown in but ray of sunshine and optimist are not the first words that spring to mind! I put that down to supporting rovers whilst living next to Brentford’s ground and chucking in a soft spot for Frome town as the main reasons! Think moving to WSM might have made him more cheery though!
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Post by pirate on Jun 28, 2021 14:48:15 GMT
Proper ray of sunshine and optimism aren’t ya! It was his first season in the football league after jumping up a couple of divisions. He didn’t get any sort of consistent run in the team, played under 4 managers, in a much changed and unsettled side that were the worst in the division. I think he deserves a fresh start with a full pre-season before he gets criticised and torn apart. He showed some real promise at times, in a weak team too. I’ll be cheering him on and hoping he plays like he did when we had a few glimpses of what he can bring to the party last season. Ha-ha, known LPG for 25 years, he has a wry sense of humour with the occasional daft pun thrown in but ray of sunshine and optimist are not the first words that spring to mind! I put that down to supporting rovers whilst living next to Brentford’s ground and chucking in a soft spot for Frome town as the main reasons! Think moving to WSM might have made him more cheery though! Moving to WsM is enough to make anyone a miserable git!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 28, 2021 14:51:30 GMT
Ha-ha, known LPG for 25 years, he has a wry sense of humour with the occasional daft pun thrown in but ray of sunshine and optimist are not the first words that spring to mind! I put that down to supporting rovers whilst living next to Brentford’s ground and chucking in a soft spot for Frome town as the main reasons! Think moving to WSM might have made him more cheery though! Moving to WsM is enough to make anyone a miserable git! Weston is so far behind the rest of the country they arent due to get Covid until 2023
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Post by poorblue on Jul 1, 2021 18:48:38 GMT
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 1, 2021 18:57:14 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 1, 2021 19:38:23 GMT
Did JB ever actually confirm he was interested in signing McAleny? Given that he's just moved from one Lancs team to another one then that move was probably lined up months ago.
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