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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 8:19:19 GMT
Funny how any criticism of Barton makes you a hater of Barton. Remind me what was said this time last season regarding Garner? Fwiw I personally thought we were premature in getting rid of Garner as I thought we had just started to show signs of improvement and gelling and I felt we should have given him to Xmas and then bring in someone new if it still hadn’t improved…. Tisdales blind doggedness on only going after Stockley and refusing to consider any one else in the Jan window cost us more than anything else in my opinion…. I don’t consider those people who have a critical opinion of JB haters as long as it’s reasoned and fairly and considerately explained
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Aug 13, 2021 8:24:25 GMT
Funny how any criticism of Barton makes you a hater of Barton. Remind me what was said this time last season regarding Garner? Fwiw I personally thought we were premature in getting rid of Garner as I thought we had just started to show signs of improvement and gelling and I felt we should have given him to Xmas and then bring in someone new if it still hadn’t improved…. Tisdales blind doggedness on only going after Stockley and refusing to consider any one else in the Jan window cost us more than anything else in my opinion…. I don’t consider those people who have a critical opinion of JB haters as long as it’s reasoned and fairly and considerately explained I will keep an eye on how Swindon do this year because BG probably has a tougher job on his hands but maybe be given a long time given the off field issues they have faced. And before someone chimes in, I know he had a pretty long time with us but you know what I mean, time with the players and plan he was working with.
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Post by Quarters on Aug 13, 2021 8:26:21 GMT
Funny how any criticism of Barton makes you a hater of Barton. Remind me what was said this time last season regarding Garner? Fwiw I personally thought we were premature in getting rid of Garner as I thought we had just started to show signs of improvement and gelling and I felt we should have given him to Xmas and then bring in someone new if it still hadn’t improved…. Tisdales blind doggedness on only going after Stockley and refusing to consider any one else in the Jan window cost us more than anything else in my opinion…. I don’t consider those people who have a critical opinion of JB haters as long as it’s reasoned and fairly and considerately explained I agree about Garner, for the club to have given him such a different brief and keeping him over that summer it made no sense to get rid off without giving him a season. When he left many said, he was taking the club towards relegation well it took the next two managers to achieve that. He may not have built a team, as compared to a set of individuals, in the summer window but who knows what may have happened in the Jan window. Saying that I was surprised he has got another chance to manage, did not expect him or GC to get one, will be interesting if he does well this season. Just hate that it's Swindle.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 13, 2021 8:34:14 GMT
Enjoyed the chat, it reaffirmed how lucky we are to have a man like Wael at the helm who is a fan and a football man through and through just like JB. Their passion for the game and to get Rovers to a better place comes across strongly and i wish them a long and successful partnership. JB shoots from the hip and speaks from the heart and like Wael will make mistakes, i believe both will learn from those mistakes and bring success to the club. I do not analyse every thing JB says and look for contradictions and anomalies as some do ,and are entitled to do , i find it boring and too many threads turns into an excuse to find fault with him and are a reason to sigh and turn off! I enjoy listening to JB and he gives me confidence, i understand him more after reading his book, and i hope he can overcome his well documented character flaws and win over his detractors. I think JB realises he has a tough job on his hands and that we are unlikely to storm the league, more likely we will huff and puff our way to mid table around Christmas and then with every one fit and a couple of signings we storm through to promotion one way or another! No doubt there will be melt downs and euphoria on here in equal measure on the way before we come out the other side, good luck Wael and JB , UP THE ROVERS! I will enjoy Barton when he turns a win % from 15% to 45%. So if he wins the next two games you’ll be happy ? 😃 ( if we’re judging him on this season )
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Post by LJG on Aug 13, 2021 8:36:06 GMT
Barton was signed with one objective - getting enough points from the 20 games he was in total charge to keep the club in League 2. He says no manager could have kept the club up but equally I can't think of a league manager would would have done much worse apart from perhaps John Ward. That said I do expect result will improve as players return from injury and illness. FFS give a rest, last season's gone Any chance you can stop telling people to stop posting their opinions on a forum please? It's rude and idiotic. If you disagree with them say why but please just stop with this "meaningless forum" sh** any time you read something you don't like.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 13, 2021 8:37:46 GMT
I can’t believe how worked up people are getting were not in April with the season about to finish we are one league match in and lost to the one of the teams that gonna be up there with 60% of a squad and with only 1 fit striker and would have got a solid point if it Wasn’t for a stupid refereeing decision and a player sent off and the cup lost to Cheltenham is the same with only 60% of the squad available losing to last seasons champions who gonna be comfortable staying up this season,I’m not gonna judge Barton or the players until we get the likes of Finley,Nicholson,Collins,pitman back with a full strength squad and will most likely another striker added and see how it goes because I remember everyone saying giving Ben Garner time but it’s different because his name Joey Barton and everyone got a Agenda against him. Maybe the longest sentence ever posted to Gaschat.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 13, 2021 8:58:01 GMT
I can’t believe how worked up people are getting were not in April with the season about to finish we are one league match in and lost to the one of the teams that gonna be up there with 60% of a squad and with only 1 fit striker and would have got a solid point if it Wasn’t for a stupid refereeing decision and a player sent off and the cup lost to Cheltenham is the same with only 60% of the squad available losing to last seasons champions who gonna be comfortable staying up this season,I’m not gonna judge Barton or the players until we get the likes of Finley,Nicholson,Collins,pitman back with a full strength squad and will most likely another striker added and see how it goes because I remember everyone saying giving Ben Garner time but it’s different because his name Joey Barton and everyone got a Agenda against him. Maybe the longest sentence ever posted to Gaschat. 😂😂😂😂👍🏻
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 13, 2021 9:03:41 GMT
I can’t believe how worked up people are getting were not in April with the season about to finish we are one league match in and lost to the one of the teams that gonna be up there with 60% of a squad and with only 1 fit striker and would have got a solid point if it Wasn’t for a stupid refereeing decision and a player sent off and the cup lost to Cheltenham is the same with only 60% of the squad available losing to last seasons champions who gonna be comfortable staying up this season,I’m not gonna judge Barton or the players until we get the likes of Finley,Nicholson,Collins,pitman back with a full strength squad and will most likely another striker added and see how it goes because I remember everyone saying giving Ben Garner time but it’s different because his name Joey Barton and everyone got a Agenda against him. You really think that there is an agenda ? It’s about winning games or actions over talking. My own view is that Barton keeps digging his own holes, only to dig them deeper. We just want a team that plays better and wins more than it loses. I admit that I’m not keen on the manager but if he did well then it would silence most of us, thing is he isn’t and he’s already making excuses ahead of time. That is the truth of it
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Post by singupgas on Aug 13, 2021 9:12:33 GMT
Sorry but we went down with no fight, we absolutely did need a clear out. I didn't want too see most of them represent Rovers again. i don't disagree with you but there were players such as Josh Hare probably the best crosser of a ball in the squad who did well under GC but was never given a chance by Garner or Barton and we made the mistake of getting rid of him. Barton should have given Players that performed well under GC a chance , the mistake was made keeping Garner on last summer then letting him rip the sole out of the team . Players Barton inherited may not have suited Barton but he did say he would keep us up. To many mistakes made by the board especially in managerial appointments. I must admit, I am disappointed that Joey didn't keep us up. Joey could hardly say on his first day that the team are going down. I not sure what else you would have wanted him to say. But after watching us for 6 months of the season already there were signs we were nowhere near good enough. We couldn't defend, we couldn't score goals, that was happening all season. It was only going end one way. Our biggest mistake was not signing a striker in January for me. This is a new season though, we can't change the past..we are a league 2 side. We have brought in some decent players, mixture of experience and some younger lads. We have played 2 games with a depleted squad, having so many injured already. I think with a few player to return we will look a different side and confidence will hopefully grow if we pick up the results.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Aug 13, 2021 9:15:30 GMT
Regardless of whoever is in charge, we were in such a mess it's going to take a good bit of time to sort out. The manager has inherited 3 previous managers players, the ones that don't want to be here need to be moved on regardless of what the fans think of them,but they won't give up their wage until they get what suits them. I feel there are still players here that we ideally would want to keep but they don't want to stay, plus players that want to stay that we want to offload. Basically we there's much still to be done on the player front, whilst still trying to stay within budgets. Jb divides the fan base so what's to say he doesn't divide the players? The ones brought in by previous managers that is....starting with a new manager would be the worst thing that could happen to us at the moment, it would be one step forward, 10 steps back! Time is required.
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Post by oldie on Aug 13, 2021 9:21:16 GMT
Maybe the longest sentence ever posted to Gaschat. 😂😂😂😂👍🏻 Ditto 😂😂😂
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Post by Baxtinho on Aug 13, 2021 9:32:37 GMT
I wonder if the keyboard warriors will be around if we're in the promotion mix at Christmas?🤔 Why does disliking Barton make you a keyboard warrior?
There's been more vehemently defending him - in spite of the overwhelming evidence that he's no good for us, not least the fact we've lost 7 in a row and 12 out of the last 14! Are they not just as bad in terms of being one-sided?
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2021 9:49:06 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? Don’t be daft Topper. I get your point but someone with a different opinion? Really? It’s what the forums are all about. It would be very quiet with different opinions. I have accepted him just about as manager but it would be good if his mouth could synchronise with his brain occasionally and not say something one moment and then seemingly contradict himself weeks later. And despite everything we’re all BRFC fans and want the best for our club. UTG!
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 13, 2021 10:01:01 GMT
I wonder if the keyboard warriors will be around if we're in the promotion mix at Christmas?🤔 Who are the keyboard warriors you refer to or should that be worriers? Why do you think they won't be around? I for one would be absolutely ecstatic if we are in the promotion mix at Christmas (especially as we would have changed manager again by then doh!)
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 13, 2021 10:01:06 GMT
I can’t believe how worked up people are getting were not in April with the season about to finish we are one league match in and lost to the one of the teams that gonna be up there with 60% of a squad and with only 1 fit striker and would have got a solid point if it Wasn’t for a stupid refereeing decision and a player sent off and the cup lost to Cheltenham is the same with only 60% of the squad available losing to last seasons champions who gonna be comfortable staying up this season,I’m not gonna judge Barton or the players until we get the likes of Finley,Nicholson,Collins,pitman back with a full strength squad and will most likely another striker added and see how it goes because I remember everyone saying giving Ben Garner time but it’s different because his name Joey Barton and everyone got a Agenda against him. Maybe the longest sentence ever posted to Gaschat. Good to see you AF! UTG!
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Post by yattongas on Aug 13, 2021 10:12:58 GMT
Not in the interview I listened to . Enjoying the holiday then? 😁 Yep , apart from its too hot to go outside . 38d 😓
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 13, 2021 10:49:48 GMT
I wonder if the keyboard warriors will be around if we're in the promotion mix at Christmas?🤔 Probably not but you can bet your subscription to fetlife that Richhertford will be, gibbering on about stretching goals and buses. Conspicuous by his absence when we lose a couple though.
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Post by kingswoodpirate70 on Aug 13, 2021 11:30:59 GMT
It’s difficult not to be negative with the wife beating bully boy. When his record is so bad. On and off the pitch. My big problem is l hate bullies. Everyone should, shouldn’t they
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 12:42:57 GMT
It’s difficult not to be negative with the wife beating bully boy. When his record is so bad. On and off the pitch. My big problem is l hate bullies. Everyone should, shouldn’t they I understand your view and I completely agree that bullies shouldn’t be given the time of day but until it is proven that he is guilty, we only have tabloid press stories that will write what they want / exaggerate etc to sell more copies….. not saying he didn’t do it, but just that before labelling someone with what could be construed slanderous, people should hear the full story or at least hear both sides of the argument….
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 13, 2021 15:46:20 GMT
kingswoodpirate70, Totally out of order. Try saying it to his face if you feel that strongly about it.
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