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Post by Icegas on Nov 24, 2021 22:13:19 GMT
I'm sorry I'm not homophobic,and I do care less if you care to enjoy the man strudel if you are male in your own time. But please do not try to re-write bloody history with a make believe character that millions of children believe in still, when and as you feel the need to, that changes many years of what children were brought up on. The leftie's have 100% lost they're Dam minds!!!! Talking about a new way of Santa emptying his sack! Would you see Allah or a prophet doing this on UK or asian TV? no you wouldn't.It's a disgrace.. Honestly Awlful. www.theguardian.com/media/video/2021/nov/24/norwegian-christmas-advert-goes-viral-as-santa-claus-gets-a-boyfriend-video |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 24, 2021 23:00:41 GMT
Can’t we just ban this bloody idiot ? 🙄
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 24, 2021 23:46:38 GMT
I'm sorry I'm not homophobic,and I do care less if you care to enjoy the man strudel if you are male in your own time. But please do not try to re-write bloody history with a make believe character that millions of children believe in still, when and as you feel the need to, that changes many years of what children were brought up on. The leftie's have 100% lost they're Dam minds!!!! Talking about a new way of Santa emptying his sack! Would you see Allah or a prophet doing this on UK or asian TV? no you wouldn't.It's a disgrace.. Honestly Awlful. www.theguardian.com/media/video/2021/nov/24/norwegian-christmas-advert-goes-viral-as-santa-claus-gets-a-boyfriend-video Your choice of words tend to belie your lack of prejudice here. He's a fictional character based on Saint Nicholas and Sinterklaas while the advert is to celebrate the 50th anniversary of legalisation next year. Even the Daily Mail called it a 'tear jerker'. No issues here for me, it's a lovely piece. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:10:55 GMT
Can’t we just ban this bloody idiot ? 🙄 Ban me Why Hitler...? Ban me for what, free speech? I pointed out my reasons and that I'm not homophobic, so any offence you feel is yours not mine. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:24:13 GMT
I'm sorry I'm not homophobic,and I do care less if you care to enjoy the man strudel if you are male in your own time. But please do not try to re-write bloody history with a make believe character that millions of children believe in still, when and as you feel the need to, that changes many years of what children were brought up on. The leftie's have 100% lost they're Dam minds!!!! Talking about a new way of Santa emptying his sack! Would you see Allah or a prophet doing this on UK or asian TV? no you wouldn't.It's a disgrace.. Honestly Awlful. www.theguardian.com/media/video/2021/nov/24/norwegian-christmas-advert-goes-viral-as-santa-claus-gets-a-boyfriend-video Your choice of words tend to belie your lack of prejudice here. He's a fictional character based on Saint Nicholas and Sinterklaas while the advert is to celebrate the 50th anniversary of legalisation next year. Even the Daily Mail called it a 'tear jerker'. No issues here for me, it's a lovely piece. With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 25, 2021 0:38:43 GMT
Your choice of words tend to belie your lack of prejudice here. He's a fictional character based on Saint Nicholas and Sinterklaas while the advert is to celebrate the 50th anniversary of legalisation next year. Even the Daily Mail called it a 'tear jerker'. No issues here for me, it's a lovely piece. With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing. His wife is called Mary Christmas. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 0:46:23 GMT
With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing. His wife is called Mary Christmas. Her name changes nothing to the point does it? Wikipedia is not the best source but good enough given it's nearly 1am and I've got to be up for work at 4:30am. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 25, 2021 0:55:36 GMT
His wife is called Mary Christmas. Her name changes nothing to the point does it? Wikipedia is not the best source but good enough given it's nearly 1am and I've got to be up for work at 4:30am. It was a joke, a play on word to bring a bit of levity. Is it Santa, Kriss Kringle, St Nick, Father Christmas? Does he live at the North Pole, Lapland, somewhere else? Does he wear red or green? Does he drive 8 reindeer or 9? Which night of the year does he come? The point he is a mythical character whose story changes over years, similar tales actually predate Christianity. Nobody has copyright and it can (and has been) retold in different versions. Your own link states "The wife of Santa Claus is first mentioned in the short story "A Christmas Legend" (1849), by James Rees, a Philadelphia-based Christian missionary" so relatively recent. I doubt that children care either way, just adults. Also, it's just an advert. |
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Post by Icegas on Nov 25, 2021 1:43:16 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._ClausHer name changes nothing to the point does it? Wikipedia is not the best source but good enough given it's nearly 1am and I've got to be up for work at 4:30am. It was a joke, a play on word to bring a bit of levity. Is it Santa, Kriss Kringle, St Nick, Father Christmas? Does he live at the North Pole, Lapland, somewhere else? Does he wear red or green? Does he drive 8 reindeer or 9? Which night of the year does he come? The point he is a mythical character whose story changes over years, similar tales actually predate Christianity. Nobody has copyright and it can (and has been) retold in different versions. Your own link states "The wife of Santa Claus is first mentioned in the short story "A Christmas Legend" (1849), by James Rees, a Philadelphia-based Christian missionary" so relatively recent. I doubt that children care either way, just adults. Also, it's just an advert. Fair play, I respect alittle humor but it did bypass me at the time. It's a tradition tho. It's what many years of people have been brought up with and it shouldn't be changed for any reason.And it wouldn't happen or would it be changed if it was anything to do with ramadam,or Shabbat or the chinese new year would it? And Can you honestly say that it would? And for some Woke/millennial leftie to think we are going to make father Christmas gay this year is completely wrong even in a advent. And again.Im not homophobic, nor Christian here just voicing my opinion. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2021 6:07:14 GMT
It was a joke, a play on word to bring a bit of levity. Is it Santa, Kriss Kringle, St Nick, Father Christmas? Does he live at the North Pole, Lapland, somewhere else? Does he wear red or green? Does he drive 8 reindeer or 9? Which night of the year does he come? The point he is a mythical character whose story changes over years, similar tales actually predate Christianity. Nobody has copyright and it can (and has been) retold in different versions. Your own link states "The wife of Santa Claus is first mentioned in the short story "A Christmas Legend" (1849), by James Rees, a Philadelphia-based Christian missionary" so relatively recent. I doubt that children care either way, just adults. Also, it's just an advert. Fair play, I respect alittle humor but it did bypass me at the time. It's a tradition tho. It's what many years of people have been brought up with and it shouldn't be changed for any reason.And it wouldn't happen or would it be changed if it was anything to do with ramadam,or Shabbat or the chinese new year would it? And Can you honestly say that it would? And for some Woke/millennial leftie to think we are going to make father Christmas gay this year is completely wrong even in a advent. And again.Im not homophobic, nor Christian here just voicing my opinion. You are voicing a homophobic opinion. I'm not homophobic but.... It's my right to free speech.... I've read a lot of your posts and you come across as a bigot. You are entitled to your opinion and you have the right to free speech, but you do not have those pleasures here. I'm sure you will find another place to spew your unnecessary hate to other like-minded idiots. I sincerely hope that one day you wake up and wonder just why the sexuality of a fictional character gets you so worked up. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Nov 25, 2021 7:20:38 GMT
With respect, using the excuse and term of prejudice is a cop out here. During our lifetime Santa has been a straight man, a father figure that came out once a year and delivered gifts on Xmas Eve.The rest of the year he lived with Mrs. Claus. Now in 2021 some person decided to make him gay and change a christian culture icon into something to fit in with there woke mindset for browny points on TV. BTW... I don't follow any religion, just pointing out the hypocrisy and arrogance to do such a thing. His wife is called Mary Christmas. I heard she's trans. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 25, 2021 8:10:58 GMT
Sounds like someone is jealous they didn’t get to kiss Santa!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2021 8:17:12 GMT
I've banned him.
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Post by francegas on Nov 25, 2021 9:53:52 GMT
Bit Harsh Hugo. I don't always agree with what Icegas says but he was highlighting his disapproval of the re righting of a character, that doesn't make him homophobic. Perhaps a warning would have been more appropriate (unless of course he had already been given one) rather than just maintain the cancelled culture that we live in these days. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 25, 2021 11:07:57 GMT
Bit Harsh Hugo. I don't always agree with what Icegas says but he was highlighting his disapproval of the re righting of a character, that doesn't make him homophobic. Perhaps a warning would have been more appropriate (unless of course he had already been given one) rather than just maintain the cancelled culture that we live in these days. Nope , he’s a bigot and a racist . Good riddance . Sometimes you disappoint me France 🙄 |
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Post by francegas on Nov 25, 2021 11:16:20 GMT
Bit Harsh Hugo. I don't always agree with what Icegas says but he was highlighting his disapproval of the re righting of a character, that doesn't make him homophobic. Perhaps a warning would have been more appropriate (unless of course he had already been given one) rather than just maintain the cancelled culture that we live in these days. Nope , he’s a bigot and a racist . Good riddance . Sometimes you disappoint me France 🙄 I'm pretty sure every post I make disappoints you Yatton because you'll never agree with my points. 👍👍🌲🌲 |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 25, 2021 11:46:34 GMT
Nope , he’s a bigot and a racist . Good riddance . Sometimes you disappoint me France 🙄 I'm pretty sure every post I make disappoints you Yatton because you'll never agree with my points. 👍👍🌲🌲 Nope , just the posts where you support posters who post bigotry or racism. |
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Post by axegas on Nov 25, 2021 12:02:46 GMT
I thought Icegas was all patriotic and British.
Why’s he gone and called Father Christmas Santa?
Deserved the ban for that alone.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 25, 2021 12:05:59 GMT
Nope , he’s a bigot and a racist . Good riddance . Sometimes you disappoint me France 🙄 I'm pretty sure every post I make disappoints you Yatton because you'll never agree with my points. 👍👍🌲🌲 And yet you manage to put your views across in an appropriate manner and make points without coming over as a vile human being. I'm OK to debate the merits or otherwise of realigning fictional characters for modern users but Icegas is a bigot and I'm not prepared to allow him to peddle his petty minded hate. Recently we have had a gay Superman and a female Robin. Seriously, what difference does it make to anyone's life? |
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Post by francegas on Nov 25, 2021 12:41:08 GMT
I'm pretty sure every post I make disappoints you Yatton because you'll never agree with my points. 👍👍🌲🌲 Nope , just the posts where you support posters who post bigotry or racism. I'm not and never would support racist posts etc however I do believe that in todays woke and cancelled culture people brand others as racist/homophobic (not relating this to this thread) far too easily. Example.. "I voted for brexit" (not me personally as I have stated I didn't vote as I would be branded a hypocrite).....usual response "everyone who voted for brexit is racist" it could be argued the opposite ! As soon as someone says "I'm not racist" or "I'm not homophobic".....usual response is "for you to say that means you must be a racist or homophobic" Another example of how society is going do you believe it right that British Airways has dropped the Captain or first officer saying "Good morning ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls" because it might offend 1 person who identifies themselves as non binary. Because I don't agree with that does it really make me anti people who identify as non binary ? |
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