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Post by warehamgas on Nov 2, 2022 22:32:14 GMT
To explain: If you beat your wife, you’d run a mile if she reported you to the police. If you are going to compare then presumably you keep all the circumstances because it looked like you blamed the wife (GB) for doing what anyone would hopefully do if they had been attacked. You were sounding like excusing what happened and making the responsibility hers. I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply that. Im sure you can’t be compared to this situation (whatever) happened. That’s why I think it’s a very strange comment to make. DV is unacceptable in any circumstance. Surely. UTG! Ah, I can see the confusion now. That isn't really what I am saying. There are only two options here: 1) JB committed domestic violence 2) GB lied to the police on the body cam Either one of these does't really show a healthy relationship between the two of them. It shows that one of the two has a temper and is prepared to do things that anyone in a healthy relationship wouldn't dream of (the only question is which one). A man in a healthy relationship wouldn't harm the person he loved either physically or psychologically A woman in a healthy relationship wouldn't harm the person she loved either physically or psychologically This suggests to me that their relationship is unhealthy. You may say to me that this is a personal thing that I shouldn't be concerned about. Maybe that is correct. However I do feel that this whole situation has brought our club into disrepute. Every time we lose, the sheds I know say "Poor Mrs Barton, she's gonna get a beating tonight". I know it's sick that they shouldn't make light of domestic abuse. JB and GB have given them this ammunition and quite frankly it is embarrassing. Domestic Violence around football is a very real thing. With Women's Aid trying their best to educate: www.womensaid.org.uk/what-we-do/football-united/How can we as a club and as fans support this campaign when we know that our manager or his wife have behaved in such a manner. I know that people are happy that JB is no longer facing a court battle. This whole circus has left a bad taste around our club and it was brought on by JB and GB. Fair enough. That explains it.👍 UTG! |
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Post by phillistine on Nov 3, 2022 9:51:50 GMT
You may know how to lock a thread but you are clueless when it comes to the laws of the land : Woodward v Grice [2017] EWHC 1292 (QB) - is a case where a Blackpool footie fan was ordered to pay £18k for making an inaccurate comment on a football forum such as this . In the last 5 years the number of defamation claims being heard in the courts has trebled and that is due to comments being made on all forms of social media including football forums. It is true that you can defend an action but that has legal costs associated with it which would probably bankrupt most of us. Its up to you - slander away and lets see which one of us is right? Slander is spoken word, libel is written. Good effort though. semantics. This is not a court of law and people on a forum such as this understand the term slander rather than libel. All your comment does is undermine the point that was being made. The fact is that you can be sued for defaming anyone on a football forum and a precedent has already been set |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 3, 2022 11:26:42 GMT
Surely it is time to move on. The fact is Joey has no case to answer. Why can't people on here keep their noses out of Joeys personal business. Get behind the manager and the team, which as supporters is our business. We need to expend our efforts supporting the club and cheering the team on towards 50 plus points. Utg Unfortunately, it became our business as he is our manager. If he was at another club, I wouldn't give a toss. You are obviously very concerned and probably disappointed Joey is going to be our manager for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, you now have a choice, either get behind what is after all Joeys team, or not, the second option will be a minority position which may cause you to stay away, etc. ... like others chose to do, although I know of some supporters who became really upset on hearing of Joeys appointment, they decided to stay away, however once the team started to do well, they thought better of it and trundled back to both the MEM and selected away games. Remember when the herd moves you either move with it or you get left behind. Chin up and follow the Gas. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 3, 2022 15:05:11 GMT
Unfortunately, it became our business as he is our manager. If he was at another club, I wouldn't give a toss. You are obviously very concerned and probably disappointed Joey is going to be our manager for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, you now have a choice, either get behind what is after all Joeys team, or not, the second option will be a minority position which may cause you to stay away, etc. ... like others chose to do, although I know of some supporters who became really upset on hearing of Joeys appointment, they decided to stay away, however once the team started to do well, they thought better of it and trundled back to both the MEM and selected away games. Remember when the herd moves you either move with it or you get left behind. Chin up and follow the Gas. Of course I am very concerned. We all should be. However, I haven't boycotted any games due to JB being manager. I am a fan of BRFC which is bigger than the manager and bigger than the owner. Season ticket holder, even in a season that we couldn't watch the team. Never requested a refund on that season ticket, so my name is on the sign at The Quarters. Sorry to not fit into your stereotype. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 3, 2022 15:11:26 GMT
You are obviously very concerned and probably disappointed Joey is going to be our manager for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, you now have a choice, either get behind what is after all Joeys team, or not, the second option will be a minority position which may cause you to stay away, etc. ... like others chose to do, although I know of some supporters who became really upset on hearing of Joeys appointment, they decided to stay away, however once the team started to do well, they thought better of it and trundled back to both the MEM and selected away games. Remember when the herd moves you either move with it or you get left behind. Chin up and follow the Gas. Of course I am very concerned. We all should be. However, I haven't boycotted any games due to JB being manager. I am a fan of BRFC which is bigger than the manager and bigger than the owner. Season ticket holder, even in a season that we couldn't watch the team. Never requested a refund on that season ticket, so my name is on the sign at The Quarters. Sorry to not fit into your stereotype. I assume my name is on the sign at the Quarters, as regards Joey not concerned in the slightest. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2022 15:46:39 GMT
Of course I am very concerned. We all should be. However, I haven't boycotted any games due to JB being manager. I am a fan of BRFC which is bigger than the manager and bigger than the owner. Season ticket holder, even in a season that we couldn't watch the team. Never requested a refund on that season ticket, so my name is on the sign at The Quarters. Sorry to not fit into your stereotype. I assume my name is on the sign at the Quarters, as regards Joey not concerned in the slightest. I think most of us would now be concerned if we heard rumours he might be leaving! |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 3, 2022 19:16:46 GMT
I assume my name is on the sign at the Quarters, as regards Joey not concerned in the slightest. I think most of us would now be concerned if we heard rumours he might be leaving! Now he’s in the clear, he’s much more likely to be a realistic contender for a decent job unfortunately, particularly in the North West where he clearly has tons of connections. |
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Post by horfield on Nov 3, 2022 21:22:43 GMT
Not sure any other club in the UK would want to risk Barton as their next manager, to much off field baggage. It's interesting that he never gets linked to other clubs seeking a new manager. WBA, Middlesborough, Hull City haven't gone near him, however that's where he seems to think he should be.
When he leaves Rovers,as he will, that's it in the UK. Azerbaijan, Moldova, Armenia a possibility if his agent can con them he's
a misunderstood coaching football mastermind.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 3, 2022 21:30:28 GMT
Not sure any other club in the UK would want to risk Barton as their next manager, to much off field baggage. It's interesting that he never gets linked to other clubs seeking a new manager. WBA, Middlesborough, Hull City haven't gone near him, however that's where he seems to think he should be. When he leaves Rovers,as he will, that's it in the UK. Azerbaijan, Moldova, Armenia a possibility if his agent can con them he's a misunderstood coaching football mastermind. Good, as long as he's overlooked then he'll remain our manager, you can virtually guarantee whoever replaces him will be inferior. |
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Post by nailseamark on Nov 3, 2022 23:31:39 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is.
And im a Barton fan.
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Post by dudelebowski on Nov 3, 2022 23:37:37 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Perhaps I’m in the minority but JB picking up Garner & Tisdale’s mess & evolving us into the team we became, the style of football on show & the memories made, resulting in the most epic of promotions, was a huge achievement. In my eyes anyway. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 3, 2022 23:46:19 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Agreed . We’re playing so much better , got promoted but we’re still only in the bottom half of the league we started in . There’s definitely progress but it’s minimal in relative terms so far . That said …. I think we could possibly be in for some exciting times in the next 18 months . |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 4, 2022 10:07:45 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Perhaps I’m in the minority but JB picking up Garner & Tisdale’s mess & evolving us into the team we became, the style of football on show & the memories made, resulting in the most epic of promotions, was a huge achievement. In my eyes anyway. I'm really enjoying the football we play, and look forward to attending games - it's not only the tangible achievements which matter. |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 4, 2022 10:11:57 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Agreed . We’re playing so much better , got promoted but we’re still only in the bottom half of the league we started in . There’s definitely progress but it’s minimal in relative terms so far . That said …. I think we could possibly be in for some exciting times in the next 18 months . Yep and it all starts tomorrow, FA Cup final anyone? You heard it hear first 👍 UTG! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 4, 2022 10:51:11 GMT
Agreed . We’re playing so much better , got promoted but we’re still only in the bottom half of the league we started in . There’s definitely progress but it’s minimal in relative terms so far . That said …. I think we could possibly be in for some exciting times in the next 18 months . Yep and it all starts tomorrow, FA Cup final anyone? You heard it hear first 👍 UTG! I have grown to really dislike this competition as we used to have a fair run every once in awhile but that stopped and under DC. I would love us to make it to at least round 5. It seems the competition was devalued once the semi finals were held at Wembley. It was supposed to be the big prize was getting to Wembley. Still, i am told it’s still one of the biggest football matches that is watched, worldwide |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 5, 2022 18:44:46 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Totally disagree, imo Joeys team are playing the best football, since Ollies team; I really enjoy watching this particular team, the squad of players is as good as any I have seen since 89/90. If and when the Joey haters drive him out of the club, we will be back to a list of awful useless managers, our best players will leave with Joey and club will most likely plummet back into division 2, watched by gates of 6/ 7000. I am sure IF Joey wants to stay, will build a side capable of getting into the Championship. Those who are obsessed with Joeys personal life, careful what you wish for. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 5, 2022 21:26:19 GMT
The thing is…..and hear me out….He hasn’t actually achieved anything. He took us down and then took us back up. So we’re back where we started. Until he makes a playoff side I don’t see why big clubs would look at him and think what a great manager he is. And im a Barton fan. Totally disagree, imo Joeys team are playing the best football, since Ollies team; I really enjoy watching this particular team, the squad of players is as good as any I have seen since 89/90. If and when the Joey haters drive him out of the club, we will be back to a list of awful useless managers, our best players will leave with Joey and club will most likely plummet back into division 2, watched by gates of 6/ 7000. I am sure IF Joey wants to stay, will build a side capable of getting into the Championship. Those who are obsessed with Joeys personal life, careful what you wish for. Let's see where we are at the end of the season. One issue I have with the way the club has gone is with an over reliance on JB and his backroom team. If he does leave, they will leave with him. I don't think we have ever been this vulnerable. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 5, 2022 21:34:25 GMT
Totally disagree, imo Joeys team are playing the best football, since Ollies team; I really enjoy watching this particular team, the squad of players is as good as any I have seen since 89/90. If and when the Joey haters drive him out of the club, we will be back to a list of awful useless managers, our best players will leave with Joey and club will most likely plummet back into division 2, watched by gates of 6/ 7000. I am sure IF Joey wants to stay, will build a side capable of getting into the Championship. Those who are obsessed with Joeys personal life, careful what you wish for. Let's see where we are at the end of the season. One issue I have with the way the club has gone is with an over reliance on JB and his backroom team. If he does leave, they will leave with him. I don't think we have ever been this vulnerable. I wouldn’t be so sure. I could see Andy Mangan staying and being promoted if JB left. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Nov 5, 2022 22:38:06 GMT
Such is the reason for our recent successes.
Gimme the current set up of close knit trusted colleagues, than a band of Individuals slung together & being made to work together any day of the week.
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Post by bambergashead on Nov 6, 2022 0:07:42 GMT
We have to be sustainable to survive, let alone flourish and I am not sure how that can be achieved with the current set up.
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