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Post by pirate on Mar 8, 2022 22:58:36 GMT
Looks a bit suspect to me. What information we do have about the Wagner network seems to largely stem from the Dossier Center, a London-based investigative outfit funded by the exiled Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a long time Putin enemy who has been trying to topple him for years.
...And some interesting links involving Yevgeny Prigozhin
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Post by pirate on Mar 8, 2022 23:01:49 GMT
Can't argue with that last paragraph of the conclusion.
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Post by oldie on Mar 8, 2022 23:25:25 GMT
Can't argue with that last paragraph of the conclusion. And the opening 3 quotes?
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Post by pirate on Mar 8, 2022 23:35:43 GMT
Can't argue with that last paragraph of the conclusion. And the opening 3 quotes? I'm not sure that we can expect a further radicalization of Putin’s policy and an effort to seize more territories in Eurasia and Europe, but I could be wrong.
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Post by pirate on Mar 9, 2022 1:23:31 GMT
I found these comments from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson interesting, as I personally tried to access the The US Embassy Ukraine website last week to view documents about Pentagon-funded biolabs that were previously available to view after the investigative journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva's tweet was highlighted to me, but they were indeed no longer available. 🤔
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Post by oldie on Mar 9, 2022 7:18:40 GMT
And the opening 3 quotes? I'm not sure that we can expect a further radicalization of Putin’s policy and an effort to seize more territories in Eurasia and Europe, but I could be wrong. And then you continue to just post a torrent of links. So the truth is there, completely incapable of any degree of critical thinking. I suspect you do not even read your own links. I will take Yatton's advice and not bother with you again.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 9, 2022 8:08:26 GMT
I'm not sure that we can expect a further radicalization of Putin’s policy and an effort to seize more territories in Eurasia and Europe, but I could be wrong. And then you continue to just post a torrent of links. So the truth is there, completely incapable of any degree of critical thinking. I suspect you do not even read your own links. I will take Yatton's advice and not bother with you again. If you look at the Twitter replies, plenty of them explain that they aren't actually deleted after all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 8:10:17 GMT
this is as good a balanced view you'd get on events leading up to the war.
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
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Post by pirate on Mar 9, 2022 8:34:35 GMT
And then you continue to just post a torrent of links. So the truth is there, completely incapable of any degree of critical thinking. I suspect you do not even read your own links. I will take Yatton's advice and not bother with you again. If you look at the Twitter replies, plenty of them explain that they aren't actually deleted after all. If you try and access the fact sheets you get this:
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Post by oldie on Mar 9, 2022 8:37:19 GMT
this is as good a balanced view you'd get on events leading up to the war. Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer If the people of Ukraine, the majority, prefer to lean to the "West", to operate within the West's economic model such as joining the EU, how is that the West's fault? Could you explain?
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 9, 2022 8:53:30 GMT
If you look at the Twitter replies, plenty of them explain that they aren't actually deleted after all. If you try and access the fact sheets you get this: Many of those who responded were able to get them with links, apparently that particular domain hasn't been renewed for nearly a year.
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Post by pirate on Mar 9, 2022 9:18:12 GMT
If you try and access the fact sheets you get this: Many of those who responded were able to get them with links, apparently that particular domain hasn't been renewed for nearly a year. The US State Department website is accessible, but the fact sheet file links have been removed and are missing.
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Post by oldie on Mar 9, 2022 9:22:15 GMT
If you try and access the fact sheets you get this: Many of those who responded were able to get them with links, apparently that particular domain hasn't been renewed for nearly a year. So let's seek out the one domain that's down and say "told you so"
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Post by pirate on Mar 9, 2022 9:33:28 GMT
Many of those who responded were able to get them with links, apparently that particular domain hasn't been renewed for nearly a year. So let's seek out the one domain that's down and say "told you so" All the fact sheet file links have been removed and are missing. What don't you understand about that?
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 9, 2022 9:59:20 GMT
So let's seek out the one domain that's down and say "told you so" All the fact sheet file links have been removed and are missing. What don't you understand about that? When were they first available and when were they last available?
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Post by pirate on Mar 9, 2022 10:34:49 GMT
All the fact sheet file links have been removed and are missing. What don't you understand about that? When were they first available and when were they last available? I'm not entirely sure when they were first available, but they were available recently until their removal on February 26th.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 10:50:22 GMT
this is as good a balanced view you'd get on events leading up to the war. Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer If the people of Ukraine, the majority, prefer to lean to the "West", to operate within the West's economic model such as joining the EU, how is that the West's fault? Could you explain? The video explains the politics in the area very clearly. It's even from a Kissinger viewpoint that I would usually find abhorrent. But don't you spend a large amount of your time complaining about liberal democracy? Brexit, trump, government etc? Seems you just like to moan out of boredom then? And don't really care about any real issues. I can't fathom how most liberals want an option A or B simplistic answer to every complex situation. There is no critical thought whatsoever. I guess that is its appeal.
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Post by oldie on Mar 9, 2022 10:53:42 GMT
If the people of Ukraine, the majority, prefer to lean to the "West", to operate within the West's economic model such as joining the EU, how is that the West's fault? Could you explain? The video explains the politics in the area very clearly. It's even from a Kissinger viewpoint that I would usually find abhorrent. But don't you spend a large amount of your time complaining about liberal democracy? Brexit, trump, government etc? Seems you just like to moan out of boredom then? And don't really care about any real issues. I can't fathom how most liberals want an option A or B simplistic answer to every complex situation. There is no critical thought whatsoever. I guess that is its appeal. I already posted up a link to a paper which I found informative. But you didn't answer the question.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 9, 2022 11:55:32 GMT
The video explains the politics in the area very clearly. It's even from a Kissinger viewpoint that I would usually find abhorrent. But don't you spend a large amount of your time complaining about liberal democracy? Brexit, trump, government etc? Seems you just like to moan out of boredom then? And don't really care about any real issues. I can't fathom how most liberals want an option A or B simplistic answer to every complex situation. There is no critical thought whatsoever. I guess that is its appeal. I already posted up a link to a paper which I found informative. But you didn't answer the question. He seldom does , just snipes from the sidelines .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 13:19:04 GMT
The video explains the politics in the area very clearly. It's even from a Kissinger viewpoint that I would usually find abhorrent. But don't you spend a large amount of your time complaining about liberal democracy? Brexit, trump, government etc? Seems you just like to moan out of boredom then? And don't really care about any real issues. I can't fathom how most liberals want an option A or B simplistic answer to every complex situation. There is no critical thought whatsoever. I guess that is its appeal. I already posted up a link to a paper which I found informative. But you didn't answer the question. Yeah it pretty much echos the vid. Because liberal democracy is not an answer, to the outsider watching western TV/movies it looks fine, but as ive said before liberalism needs untold violence for it to function. Liberalism failed and it's time for something new.
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