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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 24, 2022 12:04:06 GMT
McKirdy one of those players who you hate when he's playing against you, but you would love him and his antics if he was your player. But, no I wouldn't want him here, not sure he is a Barton type player. You think Swindon fans love him tonight? I certainly wouldn't if I supported them! Laughing after first goading Vale fans then missing his penalty, i think you are spot on, forgive the pun. Silly man |
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Post by baggins on May 24, 2022 12:15:25 GMT
Both quarter and semi final away? That's harsh. Its a bit of a strange play off system now where 4th plays 7th and 5th plays 6th in a one leg quarter final. Then the winner of those play away to 2nd and 3rd in a semi final before the final. So if you finish in the last two play off spots (6th or 7th) you would have to win two away games just to get to the final. I'm in Majorca as of tomorrow so nice to watch all of that in the sun thanking God we're not going through any of that. And, I have the joy of watching Liverpool v Madrid this weekend. Should be fun. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 24, 2022 12:19:41 GMT
Even the commentators said about caging fans in. That will never happen. These "cage them in" left wing commentators, seem to have forget what happened at Hillsborough, disgraceful. I said it at the time and i will repeat it now, treat people like animals and you will get animals. I remember being put in the naughty boys cage when we were at Eastville and i never hurt nor got close to the away fans, it was because i used apparent bad language at the game, bloody animal 😂 in all seriousness, it should never happen again |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 24, 2022 12:23:23 GMT
We ran onto the pitch at Rochdale? Wycombe? Etc. And we hadn't won anything! All clubs, us included, need to understand that pitch invasion is wrong and unacceptable I’d say it’s fine if you are celebrating and all happy, it’s wrong when people go onto the pitch with manger in them and are looking for a scapegoat or to vent that anger onto others. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 24, 2022 12:37:55 GMT
We were relegated because Torquay weren’t interested in giving Northampton a competitive game. They were safe and sent their loan players back early including the striker from Spurs who had such an imact on them I think it was a mix of very poor management and i am not talking the manger/s but further up but also we were very unlucky that day as the shots we had was a high number. We got relegated all by ourselves and Mr Higgs didn’t endear himself to many with his whingeing and appeals. A day that noe of will forget. Horrible gut feeling afterwards, seeing the faces in the clubhouse |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 24, 2022 12:40:26 GMT
Think LJ was harshly treated, the result which led to the sack could happen to any team any time, just one of those days, we had one for 1/2 hour at Exeter, Wael didn't panic thank goodness! any way Sunderland did not follow the script, the big man was supposed to come on and win it for Wycombe! spoil sports! As for Brandon, had a good season in promotion challenging side. Indeed, they were in third position when he got sacked and it was his side that the new guy inherited. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 24, 2022 13:22:42 GMT
Pleased for DC and even more pleased Garner missed out. I don’t understand this hatred for Garner as he was given a brief that meant using and bringing on young players with a very restricted budget plus he was stuck there with those that everyone is glad the club got rid of, in Widdrington ( who seems to have been the key part in it ) he also had some very stressful stuff go on while with us. Don’t get me wrong, there is certainly no love in happening here but i say live and let live. Personally i didn’t think he would be seen in a managers role again but he got very lucky that he found a club that was desperate for someone. I will never ever have any kind of like for Swindle but we have all moved on now, or most have , anyway Agreed, it did not work out for BG but i think many folk thought the trumpeted policy of developing players was a noble one unfortunately the recruitment policy under TW has proven to be deeply flawed despite fans being led to believe we were signing quality players. BG also had well documented distractions but has gone on to manage a basket case of a club and i would think, exceeded all Swindon's fans expectations., I have no ill feelings towards the guy , he was here ,it did not work out, we have moved on and so has he. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 24, 2022 13:46:07 GMT
Out of interest how do to know Garner had a "restricted wage budget"? Wouldn't you agree that It would seem a bit odd if Weal supported DC & JB but not Garner?
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Post by percy on May 24, 2022 14:08:20 GMT
Both quarter and semi final away? That's harsh. Its a bit of a strange play off system now where 4th plays 7th and 5th plays 6th in a one leg quarter final. Then the winner of those play away to 2nd and 3rd in a semi final before the final. So if you finish in the last two play off spots (6th or 7th) you would have to win two away games just to get to the final. Yes, a great way to do it. Advantage to those finishing 2nd and 3rd. No problem with this at all |
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Post by bidefordgas on May 24, 2022 14:18:17 GMT
Its a bit of a strange play off system now where 4th plays 7th and 5th plays 6th in a one leg quarter final. Then the winner of those play away to 2nd and 3rd in a semi final before the final. So if you finish in the last two play off spots (6th or 7th) you would have to win two away games just to get to the final. Yes, a great way to do it. Advantage to those finishing 2nd and 3rd. No problem with this at all Agreed, the teams in 6th and 7th place finished 10 and 13 points off 3rd place. |
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Post by warehamgas on May 24, 2022 14:41:09 GMT
Yes I agree with much of that about Hanlan. But I do take issue about “the terrible team assembled by ....Tisdale.” Tbf he didn’t assemble anything, I thought that was part of the problem, he wasted a transfer window for whatever reasons by not recruiting. UTG! The overwhelming majority were brought in by Garner of course, but Tisdale brought in George Williams and also Joe Day I believe wasn't it? So he brought in an average Right Back and a Reserve keeper when we all know we needed goals. He is still culpable imo. Joey Barton didn't just lay into Ben Garner when he made his 'Negligence' quote, Tisdale got it full whack as well. Think it was also Tisdale who was considering taking legal action about the comments. So he's definitely to blame as well imo Gastafari, I apologise, I wasn’t trying to argue, just trying to make a joke of the situation! Tisdale is culpable because he wasted a complete window recruiting a decent enough FB but not having a plan B for a striker when his plan A went wrong. And he didn’t assemble anything, he just watched as it all fell apart, which as you’ve said makes him responsible as well for what happened. UTG! |
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Post by dudelebowski on May 24, 2022 14:47:31 GMT
Garner led us from 3rd to 14th odd in a season when PPG decided it and even a 8th-10th place (most likely) would’ve seen us in the play offs Wycombe style. The slump from the second he took over was hilariously abysmal.
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Post by aghast on May 24, 2022 17:03:11 GMT
Both quarter and semi final away? That's harsh. Its a bit of a strange play off system now where 4th plays 7th and 5th plays 6th in a one leg quarter final. Then the winner of those play away to 2nd and 3rd in a semi final before the final. So if you finish in the last two play off spots (6th or 7th) you would have to win two away games just to get to the final. I sort of agree with it, as a 'reward' for finishing higher up the table. Plenty of times in the playoffs a team finishing below another beats them over two legs, which I always felt was a bit harsh on the losing side since over the course of the season they were the better side. And to me promotion is decided over that whole season, not current form. Playoffs are a good incentive to win matches and score goals, rather than settle for safety, but I can see why they are weighted a bit in the National League. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 24, 2022 17:27:36 GMT
Can't imagine the team finishing 2ond in national north are to thrilled with play offs, i believe York finished 20 plus points behind them but still got promoted over them!
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 24, 2022 20:40:57 GMT
Out of interest how do to know Garner had a "restricted wage budget"? Wouldn't you agree that It would seem a bit odd if Weal supported DC & JB but not Garner? Gaschat fact. I think we actually invested a fair wedge but many of the players we signed were players nobody else wanted. Think Daly, Harries, Liddle etc. The prem clubs lapped up us taking players off their books that they no longer wanted. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 25, 2022 8:42:42 GMT
Out of interest how do to know Garner had a "restricted wage budget"? Wouldn't you agree that It would seem a bit odd if Weal supported DC & JB but not Garner? Pretty sure it was well documented at the time and this was when the talk of there being a new Rovers DNA. I am not on to trawl the forum for old posts but i am pretty sure that it was quite open. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 25, 2022 8:49:08 GMT
Out of interest how do to know Garner had a "restricted wage budget"? Wouldn't you agree that It would seem a bit odd if Weal supported DC & JB but not Garner? Gaschat fact. I think we actually invested a fair wedge but many of the players we signed were players nobody else wanted. Think Daly, Harries, Liddle etc. The prem clubs lapped up us taking players off their books that they no longer wanted. Yes, we did sign some dross players but surely, you must remember how excited everyone was, with all the transfer activity and were tipping us for promotion , no ? |
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 25, 2022 10:45:58 GMT
Gaschat fact. I think we actually invested a fair wedge but many of the players we signed were players nobody else wanted. Think Daly, Harries, Liddle etc. The prem clubs lapped up us taking players off their books that they no longer wanted. Yes, we did sign some dross players but surely, you must remember how excited everyone was, with all the transfer activity and were tipping us for promotion , no ? I wasn’t convinced to be honest until we signed Oztumer. Who was a massive flop. |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 25, 2022 11:57:18 GMT
I thought it was a massive gamble and predicted us to go down before the season started. All my mates and family all thought the opposite to me. Many reasons that team failed, not enough goals, not the right mix of experience, no character, no winners, no recognised striker, no leadership... Up against whily seasoned pro's, what could go wrong!? I thought this before the season started. I'm amazed this was allowed to happen. I wasn't against the concept of youth but you need experience around them.
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Post by bluebiro on May 25, 2022 12:02:06 GMT
I thought it was a massive gamble and predicted us to go down before the season started. All my mates and family all thought the opposite to me. Many reasons that team failed, not enough goals, not the right mix of experience, no character, no winners, no recognised striker, no leadership... Up against whily seasoned pro's, what could go wrong!? I thought this before the season started. I'm amazed this was allowed to happen. I wasn't against the concept of youth but you need experience around them. exactly. Led by a person who believed he was the greater God of football. |
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