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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 19:36:33 GMT
exactly. Led by a person who believed he was the greater God of football. And who continues to blame the referee every time for his sides losing. I see heās still doing it after listening to him moaning after the PV play-off defeat. UTG! Hang on a minute and letās try to be objective and write with factual content as the basis. Garner was given a brief, by Wael, this was supposed to make BRFC as close to self sustainable as possible, this was quoted in local and some of the more popular footballing journalists. It was supposed to see a sea change in bringing on young prospects and then sell them whilst trying to retain enough to become a stable league 1 team. I will always have great love and respect for DC as he got us āour Roversā back as i see it. It was reported that the wage cap had been cut and by a fair amount. Most of us have great sympathy for the death of DCās eldest daughter but then, in the same vein, we are supposed to ignore the personal stuff that happened the Garner ? Please do not get me wrong as i have no love in with the guy and i think i have already written something similar. We had Starnes and Widdrington, the former had lots of press , as the man who saved Bristol Rovers and as Mr Bristol Rovers. If DC has the same situation then we would habve known about it as he was borderline blunt when upset while Garner, as i remember it, didnāt say anything. As for moaning about refs plus a plethora of many others things, including calling the club cancerous and berating the captain in public, letās also not forget that Elmer was chosen, by the players, to be captain. I think you guys and gals get my drift. I have had real enemies in my life but i would wish them to be out of work and some of the other things that have been aimed at him. i think itās more than fair that, if those of us that did not want barton can move on, the rest of us should move on with regards to Garner. Blimey, we have just been promoted, enjoy it and let go of any negative crap that you have. Just my 2 cents, as our American cousins say. |
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Post by yattongas on May 27, 2022 19:37:02 GMT
Why didnāt you get a ticket for the Port Vale end then ? Thereās plenty available so Iāve read . Because dudeeeeee, when I was on the ticketmaster stadium map via Vales link there were only very minimal amounts of the priciest tickets left, at the time. So straight down the other end behind the goal in my usual block for England matches with the Stags. Sorted. As I say, not arsed who Iām around or who wins, would just prefer DC to take the glory if I had to choose. Fair play , hope itās a great game. Enjoy ! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 19:48:51 GMT
Yes, we did sign some dross players but surely, you must remember how excited everyone was, with all the transfer activity and were tipping us for promotion , no ? Which in itself contradicts your view that BG had a restricted budget, as if that was obvious at the time them we'd all be worrying about a relegation battle not a promotion push. BG may have agreed to cut the budget but it doesn't mean that he still had a competitive one for L1. How quickly people forget or maybe their hatred of a personality makes them forget, i am still not a fan of JB but i have to acknowledge the job he has done and if i can do that then surely you can do a quick web search and look up the pressers that were done by Wael, Starnes and Widders, i repeat, i have no love in nor like for Garner but i say say this, i hope he does enough to keep him in work and doesnāt have the obstacles that he had while with us. This was one thing he said nothing about, no doubt he was aware of what criticising the club could end up in. How does the fans view contradict my own opinion ? They are two different things, we got a fair few on frees then a few on low money. We had 9 players in a very short space of time and this led to talk of promotion plus we had players or ex players tipping us. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 19:53:33 GMT
DC has just signed a new 5 year contract at Port Vale, 2 days before the upcoming playoff final. Did the same here after turning down Leeds if i remember rightly ? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 19:54:21 GMT
WEMBLEY LEAGUE TWO PLAY-OFF UPDATE The Stags confirmed they have sold over 15,000 tickets in their latest update, while Port Vale revealed they had shifted 15,452 by 5pm on Monday. Mansfield have been allocated 30,147 seats, which is 5,000 more initial tickets than Port Vale, who were given 25,115. Surprised PV have only sold 15K, I'd have thought they'd easily sell 20K, it just goes to show what a "massive" club Rovers are as they'd probably sell at least twice as many as PV/Mansfield have so far. With 15k locked out šš» |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 20:05:32 GMT
Surprised PV have only sold 15K, I'd have thought they'd easily sell 20K, it just goes to show what a "massive" club Rovers are as they'd probably sell at least twice as many as PV/Mansfield have so far. It only shows what a massive club we could be Didnāt we used to rip the ar5e end out of the 82 for saying things like that ! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 20:16:36 GMT
Surprised PV have only sold 15K, I'd have thought they'd easily sell 20K, it just goes to show what a "massive" club Rovers are as they'd probably sell at least twice as many as PV/Mansfield have so far. Hmm, yes probably. PVs average attendances are 5k for the last 15 years. Stoke on Trent has a Pop of 250k with Stoke City taking most of the attention obviously-similar to our situation. Stoke also sits bang in the middle of Manchester/Liverpool and Birmingham so there is genuine pressure on Port Vale to attract youth. We don't have that issue on a geographical front but we certainly have a huge number of people with 2nd teams here. I also wonder if we would take as many fans as we have in the past? Our fan base is ageing compared to city. Hi Simon, up until this season i would have agreed with, i totality BUT i have noticed many more young people attracted to the mem and have, myself, directed a couple of horfield youngsters ( STUDENTS) who said they felt they wanted to come as the noise coming from the mem had them interested, i probably helped one as we were playing Bradford and he had one of the Spanish clubs scarves, this had a lot of Bradford red in it, i took him to the cash counter and got him in. The next home game i bumped into him but with 6 opthers and he was so excited. If you look at the photos, taken at games now, it paints a hope filled picture. I think it could be the love of the underdog, that is prevalent here but itās nice to see whatever the circumstance. UTG |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 20:18:42 GMT
Hmm, yes probably. PVs average attendances are 5k for the last 15 years. Stoke on Trent has a Pop of 250k with Stoke City taking most of the attention obviously-similar to our situation. Stoke also sits bang in the middle of Manchester/Liverpool and Birmingham so there is genuine pressure on Port Vale to attract youth. We don't have that issue on a geographical front but we certainly have a huge number of people with 2nd teams here. I also wonder if we would take as many fans as we have in the past? Our fan base is ageing compared to city.You sure about that? In both cases, when the teams are successful they will attract more younger followers - as evidenced by the uptake in families and children attending at The Mem in the latter part of the season. As far as I'm aware there has ever been a survey showing the percentage of support across various age groups at both Bristol clubs and I've always felt this statement is unverifiable and is generally used by anti board posters. Not saying that's you, but let's at least have genuine proof! Obviously, numbers-wise, City have more younger followers, but percentage wise - I doubt it. BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME |
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Post by yattongas on May 27, 2022 20:20:40 GMT
You sure about that? In both cases, when the teams are successful they will attract more younger followers - as evidenced by the uptake in families and children attending at The Mem in the latter part of the season. As far as I'm aware there has ever been a survey showing the percentage of support across various age groups at both Bristol clubs and I've always felt this statement is unverifiable and is generally used by anti board posters. Not saying that's you, but let's at least have genuine proof! Obviously, numbers-wise, City have more younger followers, but percentage wise - I doubt it. BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME Poor old Ray š |
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Post by baggins on May 27, 2022 20:43:52 GMT
It only shows what a massive club we could be Didnāt we used to rip the ar5e end out of the 82 for saying things like that ! Yea, but they've been proved wrong season after season. Maybe it's our turn? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 20:47:24 GMT
Both teams have now sold 16,500ish tickets. A crowd of 40k anticipated. That really is a very poor attendance give the catchment area of Vale. To think what we took to every Wembley appearance and broke records. We did have a fair few of the red persuasion turn up as well, suppose it goes to show how much we need representation, at top level |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 20:50:49 GMT
It only shows what a massive club we could be Bristol, as one of the largest cities in the UK, I'm convinced if we had like every other large city seems to have, a perennial Premiership team (I'm speaking only for the Rovers here) we'd pack any size stadium. How many coaches leave Bristol every week full with fans with season tickets to go and watch Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City et al? I'm sure we've all got friends that do. They may be called glory hunters, but so am I, and I'm 100% Gas and only Gas, I just have to be a little more patient. UTG! Personally, i would rather they support city than wait for coaches, at Aztec west and follow the prem teams, unless we were that team |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 27, 2022 21:00:33 GMT
Both teams have now sold 16,500ish tickets. A crowd of 40k anticipated. To think what we took to every Wembley appearance and broke records. We did have a fair few of the red persuasion turn up as well, suppose it goes to show how much we need representation, at top level Its even worse when you consider Vale's last Wembley appearance was in an Anglo-Italian Cup final in 1996! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 21:05:38 GMT
BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME Poor old Ray š Probably one of few that understands that it maybe i am being conceited, due to a gin or 7 |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 21:06:46 GMT
Didnāt we used to rip the ar5e end out of the 82 for saying things like that ! Yea, but they've been proved wrong season after season. Maybe it's our turn? Hopefully, to quote Shakespeare, every cock shall crow and dog itās day, massive gins edit š |
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Post by warehamgas on May 27, 2022 21:21:02 GMT
And who continues to blame the referee every time for his sides losing. I see heās still doing it after listening to him moaning after the PV play-off defeat. UTG! Garner was given a brief, by Wael, this was supposed to make BRFC as close to self sustainable as possible, this was quoted in local and some of the more popular footballing journalists. It was supposed to see a sea change in bringing on young prospects and then sell them whilst trying to retain enough to become a stable league 1 team. I will always have great love and respect for DC as he got us āour Roversā back as i see it. It was reported that the wage cap had been cut and by a fair amount. Most of us have great sympathy for the death of DCās eldest daughter but then, in the same vein, we are supposed to ignore the personal stuff that happened the Garner ? Please do not get me wrong as i have no love in with the guy and i think i have already written something similar. We had Starnes and Widdrington, the former had lots of press , as the man who saved Bristol Rovers and as Mr Bristol Rovers. If DC has the same situation then we would habve known about it as he was borderline blunt when upset while Garner, as i remember it, didnāt say anything. As for moaning about refs plus a plethora of many others things, including calling the club cancerous and berating the captain in public, letās also not forget that Elmer was chosen, by the players, to be captain. I think you guys and gals get my drift. I have had real enemies in my life but i would wish them to be out of work and some of the other things that have been aimed at him. i think itās more than fair that, if those of us that did not want barton can move on, the rest of us should move on with regards to Garner. Blimey, we have just been promoted, enjoy it and let go of any negative crap that you have. Just my 2 cents, as our American cousins say. KP, are you on a rant or what tonight?!? š Have you got me confused with something else? Seriously. Perhaps you should hang on! ā....letās try to be objective and write with factual content as the basis.ā Well KP if weāre going to be objective then itās a matter of record that BG was again moaning at the referee about the PV matches in both post-match press conferences. He was blaming the referee, again. Fact. Itās not hard to find! Reading your reply to Topper with regard to āpressersā, if you do the same youāll find BG having his moan at the refs. Itās there! Btw, I made no mention of some of the stuff youāve just ranted about. And I may even agree with some of the BRFC reset stuff. And you may have read that I said earlier on that we should move on saying that he was āprobably a good coach but has yet to prove he is a good manager.ā I have no ānegative crap....ā re BG, none whatsoever and all I mentioned was his criticism of referees which is a matter of public record. Thatās all. Blimey, Iām happy to be at the end of a rant about something Iāve said but not about something I didnāt say. UTG! ps. I read in one of your later posts that youāre on the sauce tonight. Good for you after all it is Friday. Iām presuming thatās why you may have quoted me as you did. š¤ |
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Post by baggins on May 27, 2022 21:21:23 GMT
Yea, but they've been proved wrong season after season. Maybe it's our turn? Hopefully, to quote Shakespeare, every cock shall crow and dog have fieldĀ You're making that up, and it's crap anyway. š |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 21:37:55 GMT
Hang on a minute and letās try to be objective and write with factual content as the basis. Garner was given a brief, by Wael, this was supposed to make BRFC as close to self sustainable as possible, this was quoted in local and some of the more popular footballing journalists. It was supposed to see a sea change in bringing on young prospects and then sell them whilst trying to retain enough to become a stable league 1 team. I will always have great love and respect for DC as he got us āour Roversā back as i see it. It was reported that the wage cap had been cut and by a fair amount. Most of us have great sympathy for the death of DCās eldest daughter but then, in the same vein, we are supposed to ignore the personal stuff that happened the Garner ? Please do not get me wrong as i have no love in with the guy and i think i have already written something similar. We had Starnes and Widdrington, the former had lots of press , as the man who saved Bristol Rovers and as Mr Bristol Rovers. If DC has the same situation then we would habve known about it as he was borderline blunt when upset while Garner, as i remember it, didnāt say anything. As for moaning about refs plus a plethora of many others things, including calling the club cancerous and berating the captain in public, letās also not forget that Elmer was chosen, by the players, to be captain. I think you guys and gals get my drift. I have had real enemies in my life but i would wish them to be out of work and some of the other things that have been aimed at him. i think itās more than fair that, if those of us that did not want barton can move on, the rest of us should move on with regards to Garner. Blimey, we have just been promoted, enjoy it and let go of any negative crap that you have. Just my 2 cents, as our American cousins say. KP, are you on a rant or what tonight?!? š Have you got me confused with something else? Seriously. Perhaps you should hang on! ā....letās try to be objective and write with factual content as the basis.ā Well KP if weāre going to be objective then itās a matter of record that BG was again moaning at the referee about the PV matches in both post-match press conferences. He was blaming the referee, again. Fact. Itās not hard to find! Reading your reply to Topper with regard to āpressersā, if you do the same youāll find BG having his moan at the refs. Itās there! Btw, I made no mention of some of the stuff youāve just ranted about. And I may even agree with some of the BRFC reset stuff. And you may have read that I said earlier on that we should move on saying that he was āprobably a good coach but has yet to prove he is a good manager.ā I have no ānegative crap....ā re BG, none whatsoever and all I mentioned was his criticism of referees which is a matter of public record. Thatās all. Blimey, Iām happy to be at the end of a rant about something Iāve said but not about something I didnāt say. UTG! ps. I read in one of your later posts that youāre on the sauce tonight. Good for you after all it is Friday. Iām presuming thatās why you may have quoted me as you did. š¤ Sincere apologies warehamgas but i quoted you but it was a rant, not directed at your but at the people who seem tom wish ill upon BG. IF they have to blame someone then start at the top. Again,my apologies and yes i thunk i am drinker, after a good while of enforced abstinence. I just donāt understand the antipathy toward BG I DO stand by what i have written but not directed at you pre se |
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Post by warehamgas on May 27, 2022 21:52:50 GMT
KP, are you on a rant or what tonight?!? š Have you got me confused with something else? Seriously. Perhaps you should hang on! ā....letās try to be objective and write with factual content as the basis.ā Well KP if weāre going to be objective then itās a matter of record that BG was again moaning at the referee about the PV matches in both post-match press conferences. He was blaming the referee, again. Fact. Itās not hard to find! Reading your reply to Topper with regard to āpressersā, if you do the same youāll find BG having his moan at the refs. Itās there! Btw, I made no mention of some of the stuff youāve just ranted about. And I may even agree with some of the BRFC reset stuff. And you may have read that I said earlier on that we should move on saying that he was āprobably a good coach but has yet to prove he is a good manager.ā I have no ānegative crap....ā re BG, none whatsoever and all I mentioned was his criticism of referees which is a matter of public record. Thatās all. Blimey, Iām happy to be at the end of a rant about something Iāve said but not about something I didnāt say. UTG! ps. I read in one of your later posts that youāre on the sauce tonight. Good for you after all it is Friday. Iām presuming thatās why you may have quoted me as you did. š¤ Sincere apologies warehamgas but i quoted you but it was a rant, not directed at your but at the people who seem tom wish ill upon BG. IF they have to blame someone then start at the top. Again,my apologies and yes i thunk i am drinker, after a good while of enforced abstinence. I just donāt understand the antipathy toward BG I DO stand by what i have written but not directed at you pre se Thank you for the apology. Be careful with the drink and the meds!! Hope your Saturday is ok! UTG! UTG! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2022 21:53:19 GMT
Hopefully, to quote Shakespeare, every cock shall crow and dog have field You're making that up, and it's crap anyway. š Tell me the play, itās one of his most popular and made into film, a few times and i will tell you more. Crap ? How very dare you š the Baird has a curse upon his tomb. Be careful |
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