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Post by matealotblue on Aug 27, 2022 21:53:13 GMT
Barton was complaining in the post match interview about Shrewsbury camping in their own half, but that's not the game I saw. I'm really frustrated with the way they approached the game and all their antics, but they did have 20 shots to our 9 and looked the more threatening team for most of it. Lots to work on this week, I'm expecting a good performance against Morecambe to put this behind us. Morecambe not won this season thus far……just saying like……🤫
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Aug 27, 2022 21:57:30 GMT
That sooooo annoys me as soon as a Bristolian opens their mouth , they assume they are yokels and as thick as the proverbial ! 🤫💙Utg They were probably thrown by hearing a south west accent talking about a local club not Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea etc. Very true 👍💙
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Aug 27, 2022 22:26:03 GMT
Barton was complaining in the post match interview about Shrewsbury camping in their own half, but that's not the game I saw. I'm really frustrated with the way they approached the game and all their antics, but they did have 20 shots to our 9 and looked the more threatening team for most of it. Lots to work on this week, I'm expecting a good performance against Morecambe to put this behind us. Morecambe not won this season thus far……just saying like……🤫 That bodes well ☹️💙
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Post by bluegas on Aug 27, 2022 23:30:19 GMT
Morecambe not won this season thus far……just saying like……🤫 That bodes well ☹️💙 That's put the mockers on it.
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Post by drawnandquartered on Aug 27, 2022 23:38:19 GMT
Well, that was bloody tough today, I’ve changed every shift and juggled so many things to be able to have season tickets for all three kids and the good lady and you jump through so many bloody hoops to get to the footy…got back to the pub I work in one minute after my second shift of the day started, and for what?! Crikey blooming Moses I have respect for the Shrewsbury fans who appear to be indoctrined in some strange cult of gulping down poo 💩 and really enjoying it, not for me but I respect their fervour. I think the helium is just starting to fizzle out of my promotion ballon’s, we were there for the taking today. Lummy I do not know the answer but thank god I didn’t have to drive back home to Shrewsbury feeling proud!
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Post by GeriatricGas on Aug 28, 2022 3:27:37 GMT
Lacked creativity today against a mediocre Shrewsbury side. Belshaw made some outstanding saves, especially in the first half. Missed Connolly's composure at the back. His injury is a significant blow and it seems that he will be out for some time. Great to see Loft get a goal, hopefully the first of many. Putting Shrewsbury's disgraceful antics aside, we didn't deserve the win. Very fortunate to get a draw. Lots of work to do JB. UTG
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 28, 2022 5:14:03 GMT
Could a semi fit McCormick really have been any less creative than today's squad? Surely he could have managed a 15 minutes cameo appearance? I was thinking the same but the fact that two youngsters made the bench ahead of him shows he must be a long way from any match fitness? It's going to take him a few weeks to be ready. Maybe he will play some part in the pizza cup this week?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 5:14:56 GMT
What on Earth do they do in training … Connolly out with a stress fracture… As someone has said earlier we now need two CBs pronto. Our season defined in the next four days possibly. Stress fracture of lower spine. Barton said a month or maybe 2 but I know it can take much longer to heal and there is no chance he could train. It’s not insignificant an injury and a real blow. Heal well young man and go steady. Gutted
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 28, 2022 5:16:42 GMT
What on Earth do they do in training … Connolly out with a stress fracture… As someone has said earlier we now need two CBs pronto. Our season defined in the next four days possibly. Stress fracture of lower spine. Barton said a month or maybe 2 but I know it can take much longer to heal and there is no chance he could train. It’s not insignificant an injury and a real blow. Heal well young man and go steady. Gutted He said a scan had revealed an “old” stress fracture that had partially healed, so hopefully with proper management it may only be a month or two, rather than any longer
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 5:28:42 GMT
Stress fracture of lower spine. Barton said a month or maybe 2 but I know it can take much longer to heal and there is no chance he could train. It’s not insignificant an injury and a real blow. Heal well young man and go steady. Gutted He said a scan had revealed an “old” stress fracture that had partially healed, so hopefully with proper management it may only be a month or two, rather than any longer Ah I see. I saw an article from the Bristol site and it didn’t mention that. Thanks for the full story
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 5:41:18 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were very average and lacked any creativity. But had the defence not lost concentration we could and should have won and if we had the 3 points we would have just been behind the top 6. And what I write would be very different. I would have been talking about character and pinching a win from a mediocre performance, but it wasn’t and we were lucky overall to get a point. Last season we had the occasional match after Christmas like this was but we had some star quality in Elliot A to create some magic and create a goal. We are still missing that replacement for Elliot (of course Luke Mc may be that player, I’m not sure.) I liked Gibson btw and thought he did ok and will get better in time but didn’t think Alfie K took his opportunity which is a shame but he could have cost us a goal or two. Thank goodness for Belshaw because he made a save which stopped today being FGR mark 2. I started to get angry when I saw how Shrewsbury started to act, roll over and generally waste time but driving home I thought overall that Cotterel and his team were basically stupid. Had they played normally, tried to win, not time wasted then they could have won today because we weren’t really playing well and they had the best chances tbh and could have won. I think we’ll get better, I’m not sure Shrewsbury can and given the way they play I’d say it was unlikely. Unfortunately cheating, conning the ref or whatever you want to call it is all over and tbf were we to be 1-0 up then we’re as good as any at time wasting. My anger is aimed more at the referees who allow this to go on. How many times today did players get in front of the ball at a free kick to stop a quick re-start? How any times did a Shrewsbury player go down and the referee stopped play when it wasn’t a head injury when they are meant to stop play. Today’s ref was conned and was poor. Last weeks ref was worse because his decisions were wrong and effected the result. Today’s ref was just poor. But if we have any hope of challenging in the top half we need to be able to beat these teams who come for a point and use s***house style tactics. Our fault we didn’t win not theirs although their antics do p*** me off. Morecambe is becoming a very important match. I’m sure Derek Adams will come and play with a wonderful spirit...not! UTG! got back not too long ago. Was going to make some comments but most are covered above. Only thing I’d add is that the linesman (the one on the East side in the second half) was useless. I thought he looked a bit old before kick off but didn’t want to judge as some people are grey before their time. However, whether it was age or not, he clearly couldn’t keep up with play and missed some obvious offsides. Only positive I have for the ref is that he didn’t fall for the antics of the Shrews players when they tried to get a player sent off on two occasions - pretty embarrassing. Finally, hope the guy who collapsed is ok (was just next to us, behind the goal in the Thatchers about half way up). Looked like a brief dizzy spell but went away with the paramedics in the end. I had the medics with me for around half an hour. I just dropped and they wanted me to go to hospital but I explained my illness and that I had meds at home so they wrote down my stats and the details and will report it to my doctor. Lucky to have them
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Post by socrates on Aug 28, 2022 6:35:16 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were very average and lacked any creativity. But had the defence not lost concentration we could and should have won and if we had the 3 points we would have just been behind the top 6. And what I write would be very different. I would have been talking about character and pinching a win from a mediocre performance, but it wasn’t and we were lucky overall to get a point. Last season we had the occasional match after Christmas like this was but we had some star quality in Elliot A to create some magic and create a goal. We are still missing that replacement for Elliot (of course Luke Mc may be that player, I’m not sure.) I liked Gibson btw and thought he did ok and will get better in time but didn’t think Alfie K took his opportunity which is a shame but he could have cost us a goal or two. Thank goodness for Belshaw because he made a save which stopped today being FGR mark 2. I started to get angry when I saw how Shrewsbury started to act, roll over and generally waste time but driving home I thought overall that Cotterel and his team were basically stupid. Had they played normally, tried to win, not time wasted then they could have won today because we weren’t really playing well and they had the best chances tbh and could have won. I think we’ll get better, I’m not sure Shrewsbury can and given the way they play I’d say it was unlikely. Unfortunately cheating, conning the ref or whatever you want to call it is all over and tbf were we to be 1-0 up then we’re as good as any at time wasting. My anger is aimed more at the referees who allow this to go on. How many times today did players get in front of the ball at a free kick to stop a quick re-start? How any times did a Shrewsbury player go down and the referee stopped play when it wasn’t a head injury when they are meant to stop play. Today’s ref was conned and was poor. Last weeks ref was worse because his decisions were wrong and effected the result. Today’s ref was just poor. But if we have any hope of challenging in the top half we need to be able to beat these teams who come for a point and use s***house style tactics. Our fault we didn’t win not theirs although their antics do p*** me off. Morecambe is becoming a very important match. I’m sure Derek Adams will come and play with a wonderful spirit...not! UTG! I agree with all of that except the defence losing concentration part. We didn’t only lose concentration for their goal, our defence looked shakey the whole game and I thought we were lucky combined with Belshaw making saves not to lose the game.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 28, 2022 6:53:22 GMT
got back not too long ago. Was going to make some comments but most are covered above. Only thing I’d add is that the linesman (the one on the East side in the second half) was useless. I thought he looked a bit old before kick off but didn’t want to judge as some people are grey before their time. However, whether it was age or not, he clearly couldn’t keep up with play and missed some obvious offsides. Only positive I have for the ref is that he didn’t fall for the antics of the Shrews players when they tried to get a player sent off on two occasions - pretty embarrassing. Finally, hope the guy who collapsed is ok (was just next to us, behind the goal in the Thatchers about half way up). Looked like a brief dizzy spell but went away with the paramedics in the end. I had the medics with me for around half an hour. I just dropped and they wanted me to go to hospital but I explained my illness and that I had meds at home so they wrote down my stats and the details and will report it to my doctor. Lucky to have them Sorry to hear that. I hope that your meds have rectified things now. It sounds as though the medics did a good job. Take care.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Aug 28, 2022 8:10:40 GMT
Did anyone count how many Shrewsbury players got treatment when they were behind? One player did seem to start to roll about and then got up
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Post by playtowin on Aug 28, 2022 8:27:45 GMT
In the bigger picture... If you win all 23 home games And Lose all 23 away games. A team will still gain 69 points. Enough for a good top half finish. So for every point you drop at home you need to replace it with away points. Thus far . The home defeat against FGR was replaced by an away victory at Burton. The Barnsley and Portsmouth defeats away from home are currently irrelevant. The Oxford home win maintained trajectory. So currently we are still on course for a top ten finish. Not on course currently. Need 2 away draws or 1 away victory to get back on track. The next 2 on the road are 13th place MK Dons and 2nd place Ipswich town. The return of won 1 drawn 1 lost 1 at home to teams all currently in the bottom 8 isnt as good as we would have hoped. Now to beat Morecambe.
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Post by playtowin on Aug 28, 2022 8:39:03 GMT
Did anyone count how many Shrewsbury players got treatment when they were behind? One player did seem to start to roll about and then got up I was annoyed at the ref (more than once). After the Evans freekick where the guy got hit in the head by the ball and went down. The physio came on...and did no medical exam at all. Didnt check for concussion or anything. Just seemed to pass on some instructions and give the player a swig of drink. That seemed negligent to me. And ,of course more gamesmanship from Cotterills mob.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 28, 2022 8:45:57 GMT
Unspectacular start to season but that's ok, need to win v Morecombe though to consolidate in mid table. think we all knew we would miss Taylor and Billy ,JB would certainly have known and no doubt has not been idle in his quest for replacements. Hopefully Mac will go some way to compensate for Billy and enable Anthony to be more effective, confident that JB will find the right man/men to fill the defensive void, equally sure he won't be panicked into making the wrong choice. On another note a neighbour of mine is a big life long Plymouth fan and i accompanied him to the 'other Rovers' when they were up there last weak. I know they beat us first game but FG were poor and looked like relegation candidates to me, well beaten and results since have confirmed my initial thoughts.
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Post by GasHeadBlues on Aug 28, 2022 8:48:16 GMT
What a horrible game, they came here to spoil the flow and the ref helped them. To be fair it almost worked but i would pack in watching football if that was served up every week. Take the point and move on. I think the “dark arts” have really ramped up this season, if it continues I’m not sure how much longer I will bother watching football. Managers seem to be taking inspiration from Diego Simeone in their management style rather than the likes of Guardiola. The most frustrating thing is the referee’s have it in their power to stop it. I lost count of the number of times Shrewsbury players just decided to lie on the pitch and the ref obliged by stopping the game. He should have quickly realised it was gamesmanship and if there was not an obvious head injury just wave play on - like they are supposed to do. Same with the time wasting, how many games do the opposition just time waste from the first minute and the referee only starts taking it seriously in the 85th minute. The game had nearly an extra quarter of an hour having to be added today and apart from a few minutes for the subs it was all down to Shrewsbury play acting. The linesman on the East Terrace side was also awful. He missed 3 or 4 obvious offsides, a few metres some of them and was never in line with the last defender. (Btw I’d have been saying the same if we’d won today. We only have ourselves to blame for dropping points as poor in most areas. I’m just massively frustrated that the game is being allowed to be ruined and the authorities seem happy to ignore it). You've summed it up perfectly and Cotterill complains in the Independent about the abuse he was given after yesterday's game. Edit: Just seen the thread detailing what was allegedly said and I do not condone that if true. However he deserves all the criticism he gets for the terrible gamesmanship his players are resorting to.
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Post by mftc on Aug 28, 2022 9:06:02 GMT
Thought Alfie was the best "defender".
A couple of good blocks, a great tackle in the first half and a goal saving interception in the second. Probably won more headers in the second half than the rest of the defence combined.
If the midfield made space, collected the ball from him and then looked forward it would help. He had few hospital balls played back to him.
Sometimes it is best for the no nonsense,"Whoosh" approach.
We needed Rhino to save us a few weeks ago when the Tika taka passing between Courts and Gibson put us into unnecessary pressure.
Not as good as Connolly but more than adequate for league one (and probably a lot cheaper wages than others in the squad).
Strange that cos he is one of our own he gets stick on here. He has already had two really bad injuries and fought his way back, but is definitely a good squad player.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 28, 2022 9:24:49 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were very average and lacked any creativity. But had the defence not lost concentration we could and should have won and if we had the 3 points we would have just been behind the top 6. And what I write would be very different. I would have been talking about character and pinching a win from a mediocre performance, but it wasn’t and we were lucky overall to get a point. Last season we had the occasional match after Christmas like this was but we had some star quality in Elliot A to create some magic and create a goal. We are still missing that replacement for Elliot (of course Luke Mc may be that player, I’m not sure.) I liked Gibson btw and thought he did ok and will get better in time but didn’t think Alfie K took his opportunity which is a shame but he could have cost us a goal or two. Thank goodness for Belshaw because he made a save which stopped today being FGR mark 2. I started to get angry when I saw how Shrewsbury started to act, roll over and generally waste time but driving home I thought overall that Cotterel and his team were basically stupid. Had they played normally, tried to win, not time wasted then they could have won today because we weren’t really playing well and they had the best chances tbh and could have won. I think we’ll get better, I’m not sure Shrewsbury can and given the way they play I’d say it was unlikely. Unfortunately cheating, conning the ref or whatever you want to call it is all over and tbf were we to be 1-0 up then we’re as good as any at time wasting. My anger is aimed more at the referees who allow this to go on. How many times today did players get in front of the ball at a free kick to stop a quick re-start? How any times did a Shrewsbury player go down and the referee stopped play when it wasn’t a head injury when they are meant to stop play. Today’s ref was conned and was poor. Last weeks ref was worse because his decisions were wrong and effected the result. Today’s ref was just poor. But if we have any hope of challenging in the top half we need to be able to beat these teams who come for a point and use s***house style tactics. Our fault we didn’t win not theirs although their antics do p*** me off. Morecambe is becoming a very important match. I’m sure Derek Adams will come and play with a wonderful spirit...not! UTG! No doubt when you got home you had to console your wider family after Anfield! at least you did not have to drive back from Liverpool!, you will be getting a reputation for following teams who lose 9-0!
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