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Post by kruger on Aug 28, 2022 9:38:52 GMT
Thought Alfie was the best "defender". A couple of good blocks, a great tackle in the first half and a goal saving interception in the second. Probably won more headers in the second half than the rest of the defence combined. If the midfield made space, collected the ball from him and then looked forward it would help. He had few hospital balls played back to him. Sometimes it is best for the no nonsense,"Whoosh" approach. We needed Rhino to save us a few weeks ago when the Tika taka passing between Courts and Gibson put us into unnecessary pressure. Not as good as Connolly but more than adequate for league one (and probably a lot cheaper wages than others in the squad). Strange that cos he is one of our own he gets stick on here. He has already had two really bad injuries and fought his way back, but is definitely a good squad player. me to, there is someone on fb saying he isn't up to League 1 standard I thought he played well, if anything Hoole wasn't very good today imo |
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Post by singupgas on Aug 28, 2022 9:48:50 GMT
Thought Alfie was the best "defender". A couple of good blocks, a great tackle in the first half and a goal saving interception in the second. Probably won more headers in the second half than the rest of the defence combined. If the midfield made space, collected the ball from him and then looked forward it would help. He had few hospital balls played back to him. Sometimes it is best for the no nonsense,"Whoosh" approach. We needed Rhino to save us a few weeks ago when the Tika taka passing between Courts and Gibson put us into unnecessary pressure. Not as good as Connolly but more than adequate for league one (and probably a lot cheaper wages than others in the squad). Strange that cos he is one of our own he gets stick on here. He has already had two really bad injuries and fought his way back, but is definitely a good squad player. I think so far this season, we have been really poor in midfield. Yet to see them have a good game other than Burton, they had 10 players for 89 mins. Nobody really taking ownership, wining the ball, getting it down, creating anything. Not sure what Rossiter bring to the team at the moment. Games most passes him by. If he is in the side to win the ball I am not seeing it. I don't think the midfield are helped by how little width we have. The wing backs if we have any don't seem to get forward when we have the ball. As soon as Evans, Coutts, Rossiter or another picks the ball up there is nobody out wide currently. |
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Post by playtowin on Aug 28, 2022 10:07:16 GMT
Thought Alfie was the best "defender". A couple of good blocks, a great tackle in the first half and a goal saving interception in the second. Probably won more headers in the second half than the rest of the defence combined. If the midfield made space, collected the ball from him and then looked forward it would help. He had few hospital balls played back to him. Sometimes it is best for the no nonsense,"Whoosh" approach. We needed Rhino to save us a few weeks ago when the Tika taka passing between Courts and Gibson put us into unnecessary pressure. Not as good as Connolly but more than adequate for league one (and probably a lot cheaper wages than others in the squad). Strange that cos he is one of our own he gets stick on here. He has already had two really bad injuries and fought his way back, but is definitely a good squad player. I think so far this season, we have been really poor in midfield. Yet to see them have a good game other than Burton, they had 10 players for 89 mins. Nobody really taking ownership, wining the ball, getting it down, creating anything. Not sure what Rossiter bring to the team at the moment. Games most passes him by. If he is in the side to win the ball I am not seeing it. I don't think the midfield are helped by how little width we have. The wing backs if we have any don't seem to get forward when we have the ball. As soon as Evans, Coutts, Rossiter or another picks the ball up there is nobody out wide currently. Another issue which may not be popular is the keeper. He is not getting last seasons time on the ball . This has led to some awful clearances and sometimes panicks where he may get tackled. A few of his saves have looked easier to catch than palm away. Still a good keeper but not as influential as last season. |
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Post by mftc on Aug 28, 2022 10:29:33 GMT
I said previously 14-18th is about our level and that I thought the former non league clubs like FGR, Morecambe, Burton Fleetwood, Accrington and Cheltenham would struggle, which seems to be the case.
A season of transition really as we will probably see a few players leave, at least at the end of the season.
Hopefully we are safe by the last 7-8 games as they look tough and throughout the season the likes of Ward, Jones, Lawrence and Greenslade get a few minutes.
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Post by legas on Aug 28, 2022 10:52:32 GMT
got back not too long ago. Was going to make some comments but most are covered above. Only thing I’d add is that the linesman (the one on the East side in the second half) was useless. I thought he looked a bit old before kick off but didn’t want to judge as some people are grey before their time. However, whether it was age or not, he clearly couldn’t keep up with play and missed some obvious offsides. Only positive I have for the ref is that he didn’t fall for the antics of the Shrews players when they tried to get a player sent off on two occasions - pretty embarrassing. Finally, hope the guy who collapsed is ok (was just next to us, behind the goal in the Thatchers about half way up). Looked like a brief dizzy spell but went away with the paramedics in the end. I had the medics with me for around half an hour. I just dropped and they wanted me to go to hospital but I explained my illness and that I had meds at home so they wrote down my stats and the details and will report it to my doctor. Lucky to have them So glad to hear you’re ok, my youngest is pleased as was quite worried at the time. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 28, 2022 11:08:38 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were very average and lacked any creativity. But had the defence not lost concentration we could and should have won and if we had the 3 points we would have just been behind the top 6. And what I write would be very different. I would have been talking about character and pinching a win from a mediocre performance, but it wasn’t and we were lucky overall to get a point. Last season we had the occasional match after Christmas like this was but we had some star quality in Elliot A to create some magic and create a goal. We are still missing that replacement for Elliot (of course Luke Mc may be that player, I’m not sure.) I liked Gibson btw and thought he did ok and will get better in time but didn’t think Alfie K took his opportunity which is a shame but he could have cost us a goal or two. Thank goodness for Belshaw because he made a save which stopped today being FGR mark 2. I started to get angry when I saw how Shrewsbury started to act, roll over and generally waste time but driving home I thought overall that Cotterel and his team were basically stupid. Had they played normally, tried to win, not time wasted then they could have won today because we weren’t really playing well and they had the best chances tbh and could have won. I think we’ll get better, I’m not sure Shrewsbury can and given the way they play I’d say it was unlikely. Unfortunately cheating, conning the ref or whatever you want to call it is all over and tbf were we to be 1-0 up then we’re as good as any at time wasting. My anger is aimed more at the referees who allow this to go on. How many times today did players get in front of the ball at a free kick to stop a quick re-start? How any times did a Shrewsbury player go down and the referee stopped play when it wasn’t a head injury when they are meant to stop play. Today’s ref was conned and was poor. Last weeks ref was worse because his decisions were wrong and effected the result. Today’s ref was just poor. But if we have any hope of challenging in the top half we need to be able to beat these teams who come for a point and use s***house style tactics. Our fault we didn’t win not theirs although their antics do p*** me off. Morecambe is becoming a very important match. I’m sure Derek Adams will come and play with a wonderful spirit...not! UTG! I agree with all of that except the defence losing concentration part. We didn’t only lose concentration for their goal, our defence looked shakey the whole game and I thought we were lucky combined with Belshaw making saves not to lose the game. Yes, I agree. The point I was making was that despite looking as defensively poor, we had got ourselves into a winning position but then gave it all away with more of the same. We should have closed the game out at 1-0. And overall we were fortunate to get a point, Shrewsbury had they played football could have won. But we could have got 3 after going 1-0 up. UTG! |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 28, 2022 11:12:59 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read the thread but FWIW: We were very average and lacked any creativity. But had the defence not lost concentration we could and should have won and if we had the 3 points we would have just been behind the top 6. And what I write would be very different. I would have been talking about character and pinching a win from a mediocre performance, but it wasn’t and we were lucky overall to get a point. Last season we had the occasional match after Christmas like this was but we had some star quality in Elliot A to create some magic and create a goal. We are still missing that replacement for Elliot (of course Luke Mc may be that player, I’m not sure.) I liked Gibson btw and thought he did ok and will get better in time but didn’t think Alfie K took his opportunity which is a shame but he could have cost us a goal or two. Thank goodness for Belshaw because he made a save which stopped today being FGR mark 2. I started to get angry when I saw how Shrewsbury started to act, roll over and generally waste time but driving home I thought overall that Cotterel and his team were basically stupid. Had they played normally, tried to win, not time wasted then they could have won today because we weren’t really playing well and they had the best chances tbh and could have won. I think we’ll get better, I’m not sure Shrewsbury can and given the way they play I’d say it was unlikely. Unfortunately cheating, conning the ref or whatever you want to call it is all over and tbf were we to be 1-0 up then we’re as good as any at time wasting. My anger is aimed more at the referees who allow this to go on. How many times today did players get in front of the ball at a free kick to stop a quick re-start? How any times did a Shrewsbury player go down and the referee stopped play when it wasn’t a head injury when they are meant to stop play. Today’s ref was conned and was poor. Last weeks ref was worse because his decisions were wrong and effected the result. Today’s ref was just poor. But if we have any hope of challenging in the top half we need to be able to beat these teams who come for a point and use s***house style tactics. Our fault we didn’t win not theirs although their antics do p*** me off. Morecambe is becoming a very important match. I’m sure Derek Adams will come and play with a wonderful spirit...not! UTG! No doubt when you got home you had to console your wider family after Anfield! at least you did not have to drive back from Liverpool!, you will be getting a reputation for following teams who lose 9-0! Yes, younger son about to arrive for Sunday lunch! That’s going to be a joyful event!! AFCB have had a hard start with playing top 3 teams almost in this country. It will get easier, not much but slightly. Problem will be overcoming the psychological trauma that comes with losing 9-0. A nice 0-0 draw next time will be good. UTG! |
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Post by baggins on Aug 28, 2022 12:10:48 GMT
Putting the Shrewsbury antics to one side for a moment, really, really chuffed for Lofty. That's twice he been played through, Port Vale last Season and yesterday and he's tucked them away. Keep going lad.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Aug 28, 2022 13:10:21 GMT
Loft definitely looked much sharper than he did when he first arrived, looks like he's worked hard on his fitness over the summer. I think he deserves a run now. Play a 442 and move collins to the flanks unless we sign a decent winger. Kilgour did a decent job to be fair, never gonna be a great distributor but he has experience at this level. May need to accept we won't be able to play the same kind of football we did last year with the players available. 50 points ASAP has to be the realistic target.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 28, 2022 14:07:01 GMT
Loft definitely looked much sharper than he did when he first arrived, looks like he's worked hard on his fitness over the summer. I think he deserves a run now. Play a 442 and move collins to the flanks unless we sign a decent winger. Kilgour did a decent job to be fair, never gonna be a great distributor but he has experience at this level. May need to accept we won't be able to play the same kind of football we did last year with the players available. 50 points ASAP has to be the realistic target. Agree with a lot of this, although the signings we make over the next few days could change that if they’re of a certain quality. Personally not a massive 4-4-2 fan as you can easily get overrun in midfield against sides with 3 in there, but wouldn’t mind seeing us go 3-5-2 for a run of games. Something along the lines of: _____________Belshaw ___Hoole______Kilgour_____Gibson Anderson_Finley_Coutts_Evans_Gordon __________Marquis___Collins With Lofty as an option to replace/come on for Marquis. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 28, 2022 14:54:45 GMT
Putting the Shrewsbury antics to one side for a moment, really, really chuffed for Lofty. That's twice he been played through, Port Vale last Season and yesterday and he's tucked them away. Keep going lad. Loved the way that Vice Captain, Sam Finley jumped up to embrace him, showed that the team are rooting for Lofty too. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 28, 2022 18:37:26 GMT
Not too disappointed with the point considering the chances Shrews spurned. Was more important not to lose 3 on the bounce than win IMO.
However, it’s clear to see that the squad is short of quality in certain areas and that things just aren’t clicking all over the pitch as of yet.
At the back we need at least one new CB if not two, as well as a new fullback (who can preferably play on both sides). Kilgour-Gibson may turn out to be OK as a partnership but the lack of pace concerns me and we’re some ways off the quality we had there last season with Taylor-Connolly.
And in attack we all know that we need some width. We lack pace, we lack ball-carriers (bar Collins) and we lack game-changers. Collins is doing OK on the left but Evans is off his game atm, Marquis isn’t getting the kind of service he needs and Anderson is a workhorse but limited.
Plenty to do over the next few days if we aspire to be anything more than a lower midtable side that could be sucked into a dogfight if a few things go against us.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 21:15:48 GMT
I had the medics with me for around half an hour. I just dropped and they wanted me to go to hospital but I explained my illness and that I had meds at home so they wrote down my stats and the details and will report it to my doctor. Lucky to have them Sorry to hear that. I hope that your meds have rectified things now. It sounds as though the medics did a good job. Take care. I am really not well but this happens and i know there has been some chatter about me but i still wouldn’t wish this upon my worst enemy. Luckily the worst disease is covered by the rheumatologist and he is the on call doctor in A and E tomorrow and i even got a time to come in. I always worry that this is a turning point. I have never ever got used to coughing up blood. Thanks for your kind words, means a lot to me |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2022 21:20:10 GMT
Thought Alfie was the best "defender". A couple of good blocks, a great tackle in the first half and a goal saving interception in the second. Probably won more headers in the second half than the rest of the defence combined. If the midfield made space, collected the ball from him and then looked forward it would help. He had few hospital balls played back to him. Sometimes it is best for the no nonsense,"Whoosh" approach. We needed Rhino to save us a few weeks ago when the Tika taka passing between Courts and Gibson put us into unnecessary pressure. Not as good as Connolly but more than adequate for league one (and probably a lot cheaper wages than others in the squad). Strange that cos he is one of our own he gets stick on here. He has already had two really bad injuries and fought his way back, but is definitely a good squad player. I think so far this season, we have been really poor in midfield. Yet to see them have a good game other than Burton, they had 10 players for 89 mins. Nobody really taking ownership, wining the ball, getting it down, creating anything. Not sure what Rossiter bring to the team at the moment. Games most passes him by. If he is in the side to win the ball I am not seeing it. I don't think the midfield are helped by how little width we have. The wing backs if we have any don't seem to get forward when we have the ball. As soon as Evans, Coutts, Rossiter or another picks the ball up there is nobody out wide currently. Precisely as i see it, the ball goes sideways or backwards until we eventually back ourselves out of space or make a mistake. We are bang average and that is being kind |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 29, 2022 17:09:06 GMT
I had the medics with me for around half an hour. I just dropped and they wanted me to go to hospital but I explained my illness and that I had meds at home so they wrote down my stats and the details and will report it to my doctor. Lucky to have them So glad to hear you’re ok, my youngest is pleased as was quite worried at the time. Bless him, tell him i am ok and am being looked after by good people. Feel bad that i worried a younger kid now. |
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Post by legas on Aug 29, 2022 19:37:06 GMT
So glad to hear you’re ok, my youngest is pleased as was quite worried at the time. Bless him, tell him i am ok and am being looked after by good people. Feel bad that i worried a younger kid now. Don’t worry, he’s fine. It’s Shrewsbury’s anti-football, cheating tactics that traumatised him. |
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 29, 2022 19:47:35 GMT
So glad to hear you’re ok, my youngest is pleased as was quite worried at the time. Bless him, tell him i am ok and am being looked after by good people. Feel bad that i worried a younger kid now. Hope you’re feeling better today KP. UTG! |
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Post by Eaststaffsgas on Aug 30, 2022 15:13:18 GMT
Thought that Shrewsbury did a good job on us to be honest. Almost from the very start, there was very little flow to the game with constant stoppages mainly due to the Shrewsbury players ostensibly being made from paper. We never seemed to play with any consistent tempo and I feel that Cotterill set his team up for this knowing that we would struggle to develop any kind of rhythm. In fact it worked so well that we could well have lost the game with Shrewsbury definitely having the better chances. I was quite positive after Burton and Oxford but I am now seeing some worrying signs of a team that lacks experience, particularly at the back, and some quality in midfield and upfront. In fact, I am beginning to think that we might be in for a long hard season- yes, Joey might come up with some quality loans like he did last year but that aside, I just dont see how we are going to dominate any teams in this division at the moment. Hope I'm wrong but if we can't put Shrewsbury away, I can't see may wins on the horizon. I lost count of the times a long ball was pumped up to Marquis and let's face it, he's not great in the air.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 30, 2022 15:35:56 GMT
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 30, 2022 15:52:15 GMT
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