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Post by francegas on Dec 7, 2023 15:59:21 GMT
...so they were legally entering the UK in small boats before Brexit? Or after Brexit? You'll have to explain, the UK was never in Schengen so as far as I can see the legality has not changed at any point.... There’s no safe routes anymore and the Dublin agreement we had with the EU no longer applies. Brexit most definitely made this worse . Brexit also made things worse because we’ve now got a bunch of nationalist headbangers running the show of which a good proportion are racists . Come on Yatton the Dublin agreement is irrelevant. Tell me which EU country is adhering to the EU law. If they were the illegal immigrants wouldn't make it to Calais as their asylum claim should have been processed in the first safe country they stepped foot in. Why is it anyone, in the eyes of the left, who agrees we should as a sovereign nation be able to control our borders is branded racist. Try flying into USA, Australia, New Zealand without proper visas etc you won't get into the country you'll be put on the next plane back .... are they racist countries? If people from certain countries fly into Heathrow without visas etc they too are returned. So if it's right to return people who arrive at our airports why is it wrong to return those who arrive illegally by small boat (or should I say the RNLI taxi service). |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 16:05:41 GMT
There’s no safe routes anymore and the Dublin agreement we had with the EU no longer applies. Brexit most definitely made this worse . Brexit also made things worse because we’ve now got a bunch of nationalist headbangers running the show of which a good proportion are racists . Come on Yatton the Dublin agreement is irrelevant. Tell me which EU country is adhering to the EU law. If they were the illegal immigrants wouldn't make it to Calais as their asylum claim should have been processed in the first safe country they stepped foot in. Why is it anyone, in the eyes of the left, who agrees we should as a sovereign nation be able to control our borders is branded racist. Try flying into USA, Australia, New Zealand without proper visas etc you won't get into the country you'll be put on the next plane back .... are they racist countries? If people from certain countries fly into Heathrow without visas etc they too are returned. So if it's right to return people who arrive at our airports why is it wrong to return those who arrive illegally by small boat (or should I say the RNLI taxi service). Where does it say asylum has to be in the first safe country? |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 17:23:15 GMT
Come on Yatton the Dublin agreement is irrelevant. Tell me which EU country is adhering to the EU law. If they were the illegal immigrants wouldn't make it to Calais as their asylum claim should have been processed in the first safe country they stepped foot in. Why is it anyone, in the eyes of the left, who agrees we should as a sovereign nation be able to control our borders is branded racist. Try flying into USA, Australia, New Zealand without proper visas etc you won't get into the country you'll be put on the next plane back .... are they racist countries? If people from certain countries fly into Heathrow without visas etc they too are returned. So if it's right to return people who arrive at our airports why is it wrong to return those who arrive illegally by small boat (or should I say the RNLI taxi service). Where does it say asylum has to be in the first safe country? It doesn’t and never has but the hard of thinking or the just damn right ignorant think it does…and those who just blatantly misrepresent the facts. 🙄 francegas you should take a closer look at the polling of the Tory party membership’s views on migrants / forriners etc . It’s a ukip party in all but name and I almost admire your naivety ! |
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Post by francegas on Dec 7, 2023 17:31:47 GMT
Where does it say asylum has to be in the first safe country? It doesn’t and never has but the hard of thinking or the just damn right ignorant think it does…and those who just blatantly misrepresent the facts. 🙄 francegas you should take a closer look at the polling of the Tory party membership’s views on migrants / forriners etc . It’s a ukip party in all but name and I almost admire your naivety ! The European Parliament notes that in practice, however, the most frequently applied criteria is irregular entry. The application of that criteria means that the Member State through which the asylum-seeker first entered the EU is responsible for examining their asylum claim. As taken from the UK Government website |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 17:40:57 GMT
They were offered by France to have a processing facility in France , the UK gov turned it down. They’ve shut off all legal routes . But you keep believing what you like mate 🙄🇬🇧
The uk gov wants to decide for itself that Rwanda is a safe county ! A country that recently shot dead 12 asylum seekers who kicked off about lack of food I think .
Under my great rule I will decide that Rovers are the champions of Europe even though we’re just a mediocre div one side 😂🙄
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 19:10:57 GMT
It doesn’t and never has but the hard of thinking or the just damn right ignorant think it does…and those who just blatantly misrepresent the facts. 🙄 francegas you should take a closer look at the polling of the Tory party membership’s views on migrants / forriners etc . It’s a ukip party in all but name and I almost admire your naivety ! The European Parliament notes that in practice, however, the most frequently applied criteria is irregular entry. The application of that criteria means that the Member State through which the asylum-seeker first entered the EU is responsible for examining their asylum claim. As taken from the UK Government website So if we were in the EU, they should be processed in the first member state, however we aren't in the EU and therefore not subject to those rules. As a result, they are free to transit through and come to us. Thanks for proving my point. 👍 |
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Post by oldie on Dec 7, 2023 19:15:30 GMT
The European Parliament notes that in practice, however, the most frequently applied criteria is irregular entry. The application of that criteria means that the Member State through which the asylum-seeker first entered the EU is responsible for examining their asylum claim. As taken from the UK Government website So if we were in the EU, they should be processed in the first member state, however we aren't in the EU and therefore not subject to those rules. As a result, they are free to transit through and come to us. Thanks for proving my point. 👍 Spot on Stuart |
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Post by francegas on Dec 7, 2023 20:03:38 GMT
The European Parliament notes that in practice, however, the most frequently applied criteria is irregular entry. The application of that criteria means that the Member State through which the asylum-seeker first entered the EU is responsible for examining their asylum claim. As taken from the UK Government website So if we were in the EU, they should be processed in the first member state, however we aren't in the EU and therefore not subject to those rules. As a result, they are free to transit through and come to us. Thanks for proving my point. 👍 If they were processed in the first EU state they wouldn't be able to enter the second, third, fourth etc to get to Calais. I guarantee if you ask any migrant why they're heading to the UK not one would mention brexit. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 20:12:00 GMT
So if we were in the EU, they should be processed in the first member state, however we aren't in the EU and therefore not subject to those rules. As a result, they are free to transit through and come to us. Thanks for proving my point. 👍 If they were processed in the first EU state they wouldn't be able to enter the second, third, fourth etc to get to Calais. I guarantee if you ask any migrant why they're heading to the UK not one would mention brexit. They are allowed to transit under international law. If they don't want to settle in an EU state then those EU rules don't apply and they are free to come here. As we are now a third country, there is no obligation to apply for asylum in say, Italy or Greece. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 20:13:29 GMT
So if we were in the EU, they should be processed in the first member state, however we aren't in the EU and therefore not subject to those rules. As a result, they are free to transit through and come to us. Thanks for proving my point. 👍 Spot on Stuart If only someone had pointed this out during the referendum. 🙄 |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 20:16:34 GMT
If they were processed in the first EU state they wouldn't be able to enter the second, third, fourth etc to get to Calais. I guarantee if you ask any migrant why they're heading to the UK not one would mention brexit. They are allowed to transit under international law. If they don't want to settle in an EU state then those EU rules don't apply and they are free to come here. As we are now a third country, there is no obligation to apply for asylum in say, Italy or Greece. Yeah but but but France is a safe country , why don’t they stay there ? 🇬🇧 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 20:26:19 GMT
They are allowed to transit under international law. If they don't want to settle in an EU state then those EU rules don't apply and they are free to come here. As we are now a third country, there is no obligation to apply for asylum in say, Italy or Greece. Yeah but but but France is a safe country , why don’t they stay there ? 🇬🇧 It's full of French people, I certainly don't blame them. 😄 |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 20:49:00 GMT
Yeah but but but France is a safe country , why don’t they stay there ? 🇬🇧 It's full of French people, I certainly don't blame them. 😄 There’s some dodgy English folk there as well ! Hi France 👋 |
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Post by oldie on Dec 7, 2023 21:06:37 GMT
If only someone had pointed this out during the referendum. 🙄 Indeed sir... |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2023 9:15:39 GMT
Credit where it’s due to the Rwandan government, £100m for doing nothing. Wish we had a government as savvy as that 🤣
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Post by francegas on Dec 8, 2023 11:01:56 GMT
It's full of French people, I certainly don't blame them. 😄 There’s some dodgy English folk there as well ! Hi France 👋 Too right there are Yatton. I'd take all our French friends over the back stabbing, jealous, hypocritical English there are in this region. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2023 11:12:09 GMT
There’s some dodgy English folk there as well ! Hi France 👋 Too right there are Yatton. I'd take all our French friends over the back stabbing, jealous, hypocritical English there are in this region. Bloody migrants not assimilating! Chuck ‘em all out 🇬🇧😃 |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 10, 2023 15:13:47 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 10, 2023 15:59:17 GMT
Probably scared Farage's newly revamped popularity will give him more air time and Reform go on to split the Conservative vote. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 11, 2023 0:00:19 GMT
It's going to be an interesting couple of days. Sunak is called up to the Covid Inquiry and there is the small matter of the Rwanda bill.
Lose the Rwanda vote and they'll be a big call to go.
Could we see a GE before May after all?
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