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Post by Topper Gas on May 21, 2024 12:30:02 GMT
Always liked Quansah at Rovers - could tell he oozed class on the ball - but played under a manager who couldn't get the defence right, and ultimately a really poor defensive unit, where any 19 year old was going to struggle. Well done Jarell! I don't remember his time with us like that I thought he was one of the main reasons JB couldn't get his defence right, as until he replaced Bobby Thomas we weren't doing too bad. |
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 21, 2024 13:12:36 GMT
Looked extremely raw playing for us, often out muscled, beaten for pace, caught out of position. Premiership football is so far away from league 1 it may as well be a totally different game? Well done to the lad, hope he becomes an England star.
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Post by eric on May 21, 2024 13:25:00 GMT
Looked extremely raw playing for us, often out muscled, beaten for pace, caught out of position. Premiership football is so far away from league 1 it may as well be a totally different game? Well done to the lad, hope he becomes an England star. Won’t make the final squad but in the initial 30 man squad before it gets reduced to 26 |
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Post by warehamgas on May 21, 2024 13:47:05 GMT
Always liked Quansah at Rovers - could tell he oozed class on the ball - but played under a manager who couldn't get the defence right, and ultimately a really poor defensive unit, where any 19 year old was going to struggle. Well done Jarell! I don't remember his time with us like that But some of us do! 😉 UTG! |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 21, 2024 13:49:16 GMT
Looked extremely raw playing for us, often out muscled, beaten for pace, caught out of position. Premiership football is so far away from league 1 it may as well be a totally different game? Well done to the lad, hope he becomes an England star. The occasion that stood out for me was Shrewsbury away, I think it was Rob Street who made him look a right carthorse before scoring |
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Post by pirate on May 21, 2024 13:50:26 GMT
I don't remember his time with us like that But some of us do! 😉 UTG! You do know Rickie Lambert is a fat useless waste of money midfielder and Jason Roberts will never make it, don't you? 😉🤣 |
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Post by warehamgas on May 21, 2024 14:31:36 GMT
No problems with other opinions, it’s a forum.👍
I guess the point I’m making is that it was his first grown up football and I don’t expect him to be the finished article. If he was he wouldn’t have been be coming to us in the first place would he?
We are League 1 so we will be getting raw talent from the PL: Elliot A, Aguelera, Quansah, Gibson. I don’t think we can expect them to be perfect, they will make mistakes and that may be due to the players they play with. I bet JQ plays better next to Van Dyjk than he does next to James Connolly! And I bet he gets better coaching at Liverpool to improve him than he might at BRFC.
Good luck to him and I hope that GF and MT can get someone similar in August when the loans are more likely to occur.
UTG!
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Post by gasify on May 22, 2024 7:19:33 GMT
I don't remember his time with us like that But some of us do! 😉 UTG! Your comment made me look back at some previous threads about him. You were pretty consistent with your support for him, others saw him differently. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 22, 2024 8:05:08 GMT
Think there is an element of 'my other team is .......' when posters air their views on players, if you are a fan of Liverpool your view of Quansah will probably be more positive than if your 'other' team were Man UTD, ARSENAL and so on, only natural i reckon, as far as Quansah goes well it seems that the criteria for getting selected is not quite so demanding as it used to be IMHO, the history books tell that some truly great players never got many or any caps , it seems they are much easier come by these days.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2024 8:25:45 GMT
Think there is an element of 'my other team is .......' when posters air their views on players, if you are a fan of Liverpool your view of Quansah will probably be more positive than if your 'other' team were Man UTD, ARSENAL and so on, only natural i reckon, as far as Quansah goes well it seems that the criteria for getting selected is not quite so demanding as it used to be IMHO, the history books tell that some truly great players never got many or any caps , it seems they are much easier come by these days. That's because there are so few English players playing in the Premiership, I doubt many Championship players will be making the step up this summer. Although a promoted team like Luton predominantly still had English players last season. |
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Post by phillistine on May 22, 2024 8:49:49 GMT
No problems with other opinions, it’s a forum.👍 I guess the point I’m making is that it was his first grown up football and I don’t expect him to be the finished article. If he was he wouldn’t have been be coming to us in the first place would he? We are League 1 so we will be getting raw talent from the PL: Elliot A, Aguelera, Quansah, Gibson. I don’t think we can expect them to be perfect, they will make mistakes and that may be due to the players they play with. I bet JQ plays better next to Van Dyjk than he does next to James Connolly! And I bet he gets better coaching at Liverpool to improve him than he might at BRFC. Good luck to him and I hope that GF and MT can get someone similar in August when the loans are more likely to occur. UTG! When he was with us he knocked the ball around and I remember him one time dribbling the ball up the wing almost ignoring the fact that he was a central defender. He was sent off after being set up by Morrell of Portsmouth and basically he was learning the ropes and taking the knocks . At Liverpool he was playing in a more disciplined role certainly in the first games - only simple passes and rarely holding the ball or moving out of position. His time with us taught him how to handle the physicality of the Premier League which is why Harland held no fear for him. |
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Post by warehamgas on May 22, 2024 8:57:38 GMT
Think there is an element of 'my other team is .......' when posters air their views on players, if you are a fan of Liverpool your view of Quansah will probably be more positive than if your 'other' team were Man UTD, ARSENAL and so on, only natural i reckon, as far as Quansah goes well it seems that the criteria for getting selected is not quite so demanding as it used to be IMHO, the history books tell that some truly great players never got many or any caps , it seems they are much easier come by these days. For clarity I have never, never been a supporter of Liverpool FC. So I don’t, on this occasion, agree with you halifax when I usually do agree with what you say. UTG! |
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Post by warehamgas on May 22, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
Your comment made me look back at some previous threads about him. You were pretty consistent with your support for him, others saw him differently. Yes I was and am. It’s getting a tad boring but I repeat what I’ve always said about loanees. Some are playing grown up football for the first time and won’t be the finished article. If they were they wouldn’t be coming to us. And my point about them playing with better players still stands. UTG! |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 22, 2024 9:11:33 GMT
Your comment made me look back at some previous threads about him. You were pretty consistent with your support for him, others saw him differently. Yes I was and am. It’s getting a tad boring but I repeat what I’ve always said about loanees. Some are playing grown up football for the first time and won’t be the finished article. If they were they wouldn’t be coming to us. And my point about them playing with better players still stands.UTG! I feel we should have used the same thinking with the loan players we have released who weren't given a fair go in the first team |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2024 9:28:39 GMT
Yes I was and am. It’s getting a tad boring but I repeat what I’ve always said about loanees. Some are playing grown up football for the first time and won’t be the finished article. If they were they wouldn’t be coming to us. And my point about them playing with better players still stands.UTG! I feel we should have used the same thinking with the loan players we have released who weren't given a fair go in the first team Assuming you mean young rather than loan players, clearly somebody has to make the decision whether they are ever going to be good enough or not, although just releasing Jones because he didn't get any game time at Bromley, who eventually got promoted, seems a strange decision, the chances are there full backs would walk into last season's team! |
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Post by badengas on May 22, 2024 9:52:33 GMT
Think there is an element of 'my other team is .......' when posters air their views on players, if you are a fan of Liverpool your view of Quansah will probably be more positive than if your 'other' team were Man UTD, ARSENAL and so on, only natural i reckon, as far as Quansah goes well it seems that the criteria for getting selected is not quite so demanding as it used to be IMHO, the history books tell that some truly great players never got many or any caps , it seems they are much easier come by these days. My other team used to be Bristol Rovers reserves when that was still a thing. Now it's Ynyshir Albions (search online for a worldy by Mason Evans, I can't post it ?) |
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 22, 2024 10:19:14 GMT
I feel we should have used the same thinking with the loan players we have released who weren't given a fair go in the first team Assuming you mean young rather than loan players, clearly somebody has to make the decision whether they are ever going to be good enough or not, although just releasing Jones because he didn't get any game time at Bromley, who eventually got promoted, seems a strange decision, the chances are there full backs would walk into last season's team! Yes sorry I did mean young players and had Jones specifically in mind when I said it as he looked decent in pre seasons and tinpot trophy games (scored a good goal against MT's Exeter funnily enough). Quansah is proof you cant dismiss a player because they cant get in, or perform badly for, a lower league side. As you rightly say someone has to make a decision at some point, but I hope its a decision made from actually watching the players games rather than saying if he cant get into Bromleys team he's not getting in mine. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 22, 2024 11:06:26 GMT
Perhaps there's more to the Jones situation we don't know about but MT clearly hasn't seen him play a competitive match for Rovers.
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Post by gasify on May 22, 2024 11:24:10 GMT
Perhaps there's more to the Jones situation we don't know about but MT clearly hasn't seen him play a competitive match for Rovers. I've always thought that might be the case. A non league club, sending back a player whilst being happy to pay their wages and then that player being shipped out very quickly by us. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 22, 2024 17:58:20 GMT
Think there is an element of 'my other team is .......' when posters air their views on players, if you are a fan of Liverpool your view of Quansah will probably be more positive than if your 'other' team were Man UTD, ARSENAL and so on, only natural i reckon, as far as Quansah goes well it seems that the criteria for getting selected is not quite so demanding as it used to be IMHO, the history books tell that some truly great players never got many or any caps , it seems they are much easier come by these days. For clarity I have never, never been a supporter of Liverpool FC. So I don’t, on this occasion, agree with you halifax when I usually do agree with what you say. UTG! That's fine Wareham, not aimed at you directly just in general and by the way while staying in Weymouth the other week I popped over to Wareham but you were no where to be seen ! did you know I was coming! |
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