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Post by percy on Jan 11, 2024 14:42:57 GMT
The way matters are now slowly progressing you can see the test events being next summer's pre-season friendlies. I was wondering if we are now doing much bigger electrical works in advance of East Stand expansion if they have decided to not rush this through. Dont mind that if we get it right. Hope its open for our home play off semi final home leg though  |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 11, 2024 14:43:50 GMT
The way matters are now slowly progressing you can see the test events being next summer's pre-season friendlies. It raises questions about the next phase - East stands . If it's taken nearly one year from the start of the application (February 2023) and its been fast tracked . How long will a much bigger project take ?. The club would have to get it right regarding local consultation : planning and due course with B.C.C. Also do the club put in an entire application for the lot or do it in stages so not to minimise the East section capacity?. Let's hope we can get some updates from the club soon about the south stand opening . |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Jan 11, 2024 22:19:32 GMT
Think it's fairly standard procedure. Test events just seem to iron out minor issues. Would have hoped 1 event with it full and a fire drill would suffice A fire drill? Talking of which, what happened to the bing bong safety announcement? Instead of being 'bing bong' they should have Leslie Phillip's. 'Ding dong' |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jan 11, 2024 23:32:38 GMT
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Post by baggins on Jan 12, 2024 6:11:22 GMT
A fire drill? Talking of which, what happened to the bing bong safety announcement? Instead of being 'bing bong' they should have Leslie Phillip's. 'Ding dong' He went to my School don't you know. |
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Post by supergas on Jan 12, 2024 9:42:10 GMT
Ok, my mistake. Still don't quite know why we need it for 1 stand but there we go. Think it's fairly standard procedure. Test events just seem to iron out minor issues. Would have hoped 1 event with it full and a fire drill would suffice It's one of those things where you think there would be endless rules and regulations to comply with but I've searched and searched and can find nothing online - so I guess it's an ad-hoc process by all the parties involved. If it was a bespoke and complex build you can understand why they would want to fully test everything from electrics and plumbing to access and the capacity of various areas with a physical test...but ours is a basic stand built to the same general specifications as others up and down the country - so unless there are 'secret'/unpublished requirements, I can't see why it needs the 'traditional' two test events (scaling up), or why it can't be done with paying customers in a 'real-world' match-day setting... |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 12, 2024 9:43:52 GMT
Think it's fairly standard procedure. Test events just seem to iron out minor issues. Would have hoped 1 event with it full and a fire drill would suffice It's one of those things where you think there would be endless rules and regulations to comply with but I've searched and searched and can find nothing online - so I guess it's an ad-hoc process by all the parties involved. If it was a bespoke and complex build you can understand why they would want to fully test everything from electrics and plumbing to access and the capacity of various areas with a physical test...but ours is a basic stand built to the same general specifications as others up and down the country - so unless there are 'secret'/unpublished requirements, I can't see why it needs the 'traditional' two test events (scaling up), or why it can't be done with paying customers in a 'real-world' match-day setting... The trouble Rovers have had the last 5/6 years with the ground, I think the authorities would be more inclined to carry out more checks. |
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Post by supergas on Jan 12, 2024 9:52:36 GMT
It's one of those things where you think there would be endless rules and regulations to comply with but I've searched and searched and can find nothing online - so I guess it's an ad-hoc process by all the parties involved. If it was a bespoke and complex build you can understand why they would want to fully test everything from electrics and plumbing to access and the capacity of various areas with a physical test...but ours is a basic stand built to the same general specifications as others up and down the country - so unless there are 'secret'/unpublished requirements, I can't see why it needs the 'traditional' two test events (scaling up), or why it can't be done with paying customers in a 'real-world' match-day setting... The trouble Rovers have had the last 5/6 years with the ground, I think the authorities would be more inclined to carry out more checks. ...but what is there to check? At any test event stewarding will be ramped up (in terms of numbers) and far easier (no aggro from anyone). In a complex build like New White Hart Lane, Wembley, even new single stands like the Anfield Road End or the Lansdown Stand at you-know-where, there are lots of things to check to make sure everything works as planned....but our South Stand is not a complex build like any of those... |
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Post by chewbacca on Jan 12, 2024 9:56:00 GMT
The trouble Rovers have had the last 5/6 years with the ground, I think the authorities would be more inclined to carry out more checks. ...but what is there to check? At any test event stewarding will be ramped up (in terms of numbers) and far easier (no aggro from anyone). In a complex build like New White Hart Lane, Wembley, even new single stands like the Anfield Road End or the Lansdown Stand at you-know-where, there are lots of things to check to make sure everything works as planned....but our South Stand is not a complex build like any of those... Yeah, but it's also the second stand we've built where planning permission had to be obtained after building had started. I wouldn't be surprised if the planning office wanted to dot every i and cross every t. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2024 9:59:03 GMT
Has anyone from the club stated we need to do test events? Feels like a GasChat fact. Also, no way are 3000 people turning up to watch training at the mem! Maybe they would if there was no fee and it was made clear that this is necessary to get the thing up and running. Then again, I used to watch Rovers reserves at Eastville and we never had those kind of numbers, not even v the 82 reserves |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 12, 2024 10:14:55 GMT
...but what is there to check? At any test event stewarding will be ramped up (in terms of numbers) and far easier (no aggro from anyone). In a complex build like New White Hart Lane, Wembley, even new single stands like the Anfield Road End or the Lansdown Stand at you-know-where, there are lots of things to check to make sure everything works as planned....but our South Stand is not a complex build like any of those... Yeah, but it's also the second stand we've built where planning permission had to be obtained after building had started. I wouldn't be surprised if the planning office wanted to dot every i and cross every t. I can't see planning have anything to do with a test event, that's down to SAG signing off the stand as being safe to use. I can't see why the stand filled to 50% capacity can't be a test event, and then another at 75% if a second one is required. Wrexham seem to have just opened their new temp stand without any test events and that part of their ground hasn't been used for years. |
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Post by gassince1957 on Jan 12, 2024 11:29:32 GMT
Has anyone from the club stated we need to do test events? Feels like a GasChat fact. Also, no way are 3000 people turning up to watch training at the mem! Maybe they would if there was no fee and it was made clear that this is necessary to get the thing up and running. Then again, I used to watch Rovers reserves at Eastville and we never had those kind of numbers, not even v the 82 reserves We did in the Football Combination - when Stoke reserves including one Stanley Mathews played the crowd was well over 10k and I'm sure it was similar for a game against Spurs reserves. At the time (early 60s so maybe before your time?) we were in the top division of the Football Combination. I think the average reserve crowd was around 4.5k as season tickets were for 1st team and reserve team games back then. The 1st team average early 60s was around 14k from memory. |
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Post by eric on Jan 12, 2024 12:38:15 GMT
Yeah, but it's also the second stand we've built where planning permission had to be obtained after building had started. I wouldn't be surprised if the planning office wanted to dot every i and cross every t. I can't see planning have anything to do with a test event, that's down to SAG signing off the stand as being safe to use. I can't see why the stand filled to 50% capacity can't be a test event, and then another at 75% if a second one is required. Wrexham seem to have just opened their new temp stand without any test events and that part of their ground hasn't been used for years. Does the ‘A’ in SAG stand for advisory? If so is there anything mandatory that we have to follow before opening? Is SAG regional and have different levels of input/status in different regions? (Presuming all regions even have a SAG). |
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Post by Marshy on Jan 12, 2024 12:51:39 GMT
I can't see planning have anything to do with a test event, that's down to SAG signing off the stand as being safe to use. I can't see why the stand filled to 50% capacity can't be a test event, and then another at 75% if a second one is required. Wrexham seem to have just opened their new temp stand without any test events and that part of their ground hasn't been used for years. Does the ‘A’ in SAG stand for advisory? If so is there anything mandatory that we have to follow before opening? Is SAG regional and have different levels of input/status in different regions? (Presuming all regions even have a SAG). Arseholes? |
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Post by eric on Jan 12, 2024 12:58:03 GMT
Does the ‘A’ in SAG stand for advisory? If so is there anything mandatory that we have to follow before opening? Is SAG regional and have different levels of input/status in different regions? (Presuming all regions even have a SAG). Arseholes? Good point well made 😁 |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 12, 2024 14:34:05 GMT
Maybe they would if there was no fee and it was made clear that this is necessary to get the thing up and running. Then again, I used to watch Rovers reserves at Eastville and we never had those kind of numbers, not even v the 82 reserves We did in the Football Combination - when Stoke reserves including one Stanley Mathews played the crowd was well over 10k and I'm sure it was similar for a game against Spurs reserves. At the time (early 60s so maybe before your time?) we were in the top division of the Football Combination. I think the average reserve crowd was around 4.5k as season tickets were for 1st team and reserve team games back then. The 1st team average early 60s was around 14k from memory. I love these kind of stories. Those were the days when football as a truly working man’s sport and yes, it was before my time. My first game was in 68, a night game v Tranmere on a Tuesday night. |
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Post by aghast on Jan 12, 2024 17:07:25 GMT
Think it's fairly standard procedure. Test events just seem to iron out minor issues. Would have hoped 1 event with it full and a fire drill would suffice It's one of those things where you think there would be endless rules and regulations to comply with but I've searched and searched and can find nothing online - so I guess it's an ad-hoc process by all the parties involved. If it was a bespoke and complex build you can understand why they would want to fully test everything from electrics and plumbing to access and the capacity of various areas with a physical test...but ours is a basic stand built to the same general specifications as others up and down the country - so unless there are 'secret'/unpublished requirements, I can't see why it needs the 'traditional' two test events (scaling up), or why it can't be done with paying customers in a 'real-world' match-day setting... In ye olden days they used to get the local constabulary or a local regiment to test a new stand, marching and jumping up and down in their hobnail boots. They'd probably charge £250,000 for that now. |
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Post by dexygas on Jan 12, 2024 17:20:12 GMT
The thread is descending into a Monty Python sketch.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Jan 12, 2024 17:26:12 GMT
We did in the Football Combination - when Stoke reserves including one Stanley Mathews played the crowd was well over 10k and I'm sure it was similar for a game against Spurs reserves. At the time (early 60s so maybe before your time?) we were in the top division of the Football Combination. I think the average reserve crowd was around 4.5k as season tickets were for 1st team and reserve team games back then. The 1st team average early 60s was around 14k from memory. I love these kind of stories. Those were the days when football as a truly working man’s sport and yes, it was before my time. My first game was in 68, a night game v Tranmere on a Tuesday night. Scottish International ,Jimmy Robertson made his Spurs debut at Eastville in the Football Combination and scored from outside the box at the Flower Bed end.He later signed for Stoke and I bumped into him in Eccleshall,Staffs and told him I'd witnessed his first Spurs goal at Eastville.He was very surprised!!!! Attachments:
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Post by ashlinggas on Jan 12, 2024 18:25:55 GMT
I love these kind of stories. Those were the days when football as a truly working man’s sport and yes, it was before my time. My first game was in 68, a night game v Tranmere on a Tuesday night. Scottish International ,Jimmy Robertson made his Spurs debut at Eastville in the Football Combination and scored from outside the box at the Flower Bed end.He later signed for Stoke and I bumped into him in Eccleshall,Staffs and told him I'd witnessed his first Spurs goal at Eastville.He was very surprised!!!! I remember going to see Rovers v Spurs reserves in what must have been about 1970. There was a turnout of 3 or 4 thousand because Spurs had dropped a load of first teamers for reasons I have forgotten. I still have a load of autographs I got from behind the South Stand including Alan Gilzean |
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