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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 5, 2024 18:55:08 GMT
Sorry for bringing this down to earth with a bump. If you sold 3000 tickets to Derby fans, Just out of interest how would you segregate the West stand from the away fans? The stand in its entirity holds 3500. Plus there is scope to allow 700 in away terrace. This still allows up to 1000 home tickets in the south stand. I don't think we will sell anymore than 9000 home tickets unless we are pushing for top 6 . |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 5, 2024 18:56:35 GMT
Sorry for bringing this down to earth with a bump. If you sold 3000 tickets to Derby fans, Just out of interest how would you segregate the West stand from the away fans? I don't feel there's any need to give Derby the whole stand but we could give them 2,000 tickets, lose, say 300, to segregation and 1,000 to home fans. Plus they get another 800 in the away end. Although if we win the next 3 games the share of tickets may have to change in our favour. Agree with above that's nearly 3000!. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 5, 2024 19:18:55 GMT
Sorry for bringing this down to earth with a bump. If you sold 3000 tickets to Derby fans, Just out of interest how would you segregate the West stand from the away fans? I don't feel there's any need to give Derby the whole stand but we could give them 2,000 tickets, lose, say 300, to segregation and 1,000 to home fans. Plus they get another 800 in the away end. Although if we win the next 3 games the share of tickets may have to change in our favour. Have you been in the South Stand? The way things are at the moment, this just isn't possible. You can't keep the fans away from each other. 2000 tickets, lets say that 500 on the terrace. So we need to find 1500 seats for them in a way that fans cannot mingle: When arriving Half time When leaving How do you do that? |
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Post by gasify on Feb 5, 2024 19:21:50 GMT
Sorry for bringing this down to earth with a bump. If you sold 3000 tickets to Derby fans, Just out of interest how would you segregate the West stand from the away fans? The stand in its entirity holds 3500. Plus there is scope to allow 700 in away terrace. This still allows up to 1000 home tickets in the south stand. I don't think we will sell anymore than 9000 home tickets unless we are pushing for top 6 . That sounds wonderful. How do you segregate them? Are you going to close some of the exits onto the concourse? How do you stop them fighting with the Cooling Stand Ultras? |
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 5, 2024 19:26:25 GMT
Thanks 👍 Does make sense in a way, but officially the South is a temporary stand, and who knows when the East Stand will be built. I’d have built it all the way to the top and crossed that bridge later on. Could have got a couple of hundred more fans in there for bigger games. That section would come down very quickly. And it looks a bit odd. Hey ho. What do I know? But the new South stand isn’t temporary though is it? Planning documents state: “ The proposals involve the removal of previous modular stands to the South end and South-West corner of the Memorial Stadium and the construction of a permanent roof structure for the new South Stand with the installation of a new modular seating system, with a capacity of 3,414 seats within the footprint of the steel roof structure.” I can’t be bothered to go back and find quotes, but I’m pretty certain they said it was temporary and was being constructed of bolted together steel so it could be dismantled easily and the steel re-used elsewhere. Also, if it was permanent, why is there not an inch of concrete in it? Doesn’t sound very permanent to me. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 5, 2024 19:26:41 GMT
The stand in its entirity holds 3500. Plus there is scope to allow 700 in away terrace. This still allows up to 1000 home tickets in the south stand. I don't think we will sell anymore than 9000 home tickets unless we are pushing for top 6 . That sounds wonderful. How do you segregate them? Are you going to close some of the exits onto the concourse? How do you stop them fighting with the Cooling Stand Ultras? South stand tents had no rear access. The only separation was a sheet. Some clubs were allowed 300 others allowed 600 some used the entire south stand. The sheet was moved around like a yo yo. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Feb 5, 2024 19:39:43 GMT
Completely agree with comments regarding non Bristol based fans. Spoke to shop today explaining that I would have to drive 60 mile round trip today and again to attend the game tomorrow. This apparently is because they cannot process the £3 admin fee by phone, reason being, the telephone line is not secure. I also emailed Tom Gorringe, who cc’d the Ticket office. This is not how you treat your loyal customers. Watch this space😡 I had similar issues some time ago so not sure why the issue hasn't been looked into. Ticketmaster system needs amending for exchanges/seat moves. I've rang a few small independent companies and they have the facility to put the transaction into a system and you are then forwarded to a secure payment service before going back to the company who can see the payment has been made. |
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Post by onedaygas83 on Feb 5, 2024 19:59:29 GMT
But the new South stand isn’t temporary though is it? Planning documents state: “ The proposals involve the removal of previous modular stands to the South end and South-West corner of the Memorial Stadium and the construction of a permanent roof structure for the new South Stand with the installation of a new modular seating system, with a capacity of 3,414 seats within the footprint of the steel roof structure.” I can’t be bothered to go back and find quotes, but I’m pretty certain they said it was temporary and was being constructed of bolted together steel so it could be dismantled easily and the steel re-used elsewhere. Also, if it was permanent, why is there not an inch of concrete in it? Doesn’t sound very permanent to me. it's not a permanent structure but it does have a concrete base from which it is built on. I think what people are trying to establish is if the south Stand under this construction will remain when further parts of the stadium are rebuilt and my answer would be yes I think the south Stand is the first phase of a redeveloped Memorial Stadium.Im not against it staying but I look at a club like Rotherhams New York Stadium and although it only holds 12021 fans it's a very tidy ground and cost a mere £17 million to build so I'd like something similar but up it to a 16k-18k capacity at the Mem. Yes we might be looking slightly more than that due to us demolishing the existing stands but they did their build price with the land they bought so with us already owning the Mem I'm sure a similar build would fetch around the £25million mark. |
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Post by gasonthemount on Feb 5, 2024 20:06:32 GMT
I estimate that there are over 600 season ticket holders in theSW/South Stand. Personally I think that with the right marketing and sensible pricng, that number will increase significantly. Some fans will also move from other areas of the ground, particularly from terracing to have a seat.
Already it is clear that the new permanent structure is having a positive impact.
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Post by onedaygas83 on Feb 5, 2024 20:09:44 GMT
Pricing structure is odd but I can see why it's been done to maximise revenue. The EFL should introduce 20 is plenty campaign pyramid wide, completely unfair in today's economy to pay more than £20 for League 1 football. Problem is that today's economy means that the costs for clubs has undoubtedly increased massively over the last couple of year, since 20 is plenty was launched. I know it's League 1 football so should be a lot cheaper as a lesser product, but I can't imagine that the matchday cost per supporter attending is much different between League 1 and the Premier League - similar number of stewards/ticket checkers per attendee, electricity, water, VAT etc. The Premier League clubs will enjoy greater economies of scale than Rovers. £25 to stay alive? the EFL should seriously look at how clubs outside of the German top division operates its ticket sells because they have a policy of a reduced ticket cost and a pay what you can policy and most if not all Lower league clubs sell out their stadiums and make money through match days food outlets/beer sales. Its a great gesture to offer fans and attract them to bring other members of their family and friends due to a cheaper entrance fee but they know the people who attend on match days will pay in other ways and return week on week. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 5, 2024 20:30:53 GMT
Update on ST transfer.
As promised by Tom Gorringe in his reply email to me, Pete Weymouth contacted me tonight and said it’s sorted and for the two of us to go into the ground on Saturday and it can be done then. I hasten to add he did not say it was for everybody but I hope the club follow this up by saying all isolated ST holders will be able to do this.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 5, 2024 20:34:53 GMT
Update on ST transfer. As promised by Tom Gorringe in his reply email to me, Pete Weymouth contacted me tonight and said it’s sorted and for the two of us to go into the ground on Saturday and it can be done then. I hasten to add he did not say it was for everybody but I hope the club follow this up by saying all isolated ST holders will be able to do this. Well played Bideford |
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Post by gasify on Feb 5, 2024 20:35:05 GMT
That sounds wonderful. How do you segregate them? Are you going to close some of the exits onto the concourse? How do you stop them fighting with the Cooling Stand Ultras? South stand tents had no rear access. The only separation was a sheet. Some clubs were allowed 300 others allowed 600 some used the entire south stand. The sheet was moved around like a yo yo. So you are suggesting that we block the entrance from the stand to the concourse? |
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Post by joefrankie on Feb 5, 2024 20:37:44 GMT
I can’t be bothered to go back and find quotes, but I’m pretty certain they said it was temporary and was being constructed of bolted together steel so it could be dismantled easily and the steel re-used elsewhere. Also, if it was permanent, why is there not an inch of concrete in it? Doesn’t sound very permanent to me. it's not a permanent structure but it does have a concrete base from which it is built on. I think what people are trying to establish is if the south Stand under this construction will remain when further parts of the stadium are rebuilt and my answer would be yes I think the south Stand is the first phase of a redeveloped Memorial Stadium.Im not against it staying but I look at a club like Rotherhams New York Stadium and although it only holds 12021 fans it's a very tidy ground and cost a mere £17 million to build so I'd like something similar but up it to a 16k-18k capacity at the Mem. Yes we might be looking slightly more than that due to us demolishing the existing stands but they did their build price with the land they bought so with us already owning the Mem I'm sure a similar build would fetch around the £25million mark. As I said earlier, officially it’s a temporary stand, but I’m not naive and know that there’s temporary and there’s Rovers temporary. That stand will be there for years, certainly it won’t move until the rest of the ground is done. Hopefully, eventually, they’ll dismantle it and replace it with a proper, permanent, cantilever alternative. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 5, 2024 20:49:15 GMT
South stand tents had no rear access. The only separation was a sheet. Some clubs were allowed 300 others allowed 600 some used the entire south stand. The sheet was moved around like a yo yo. So you are suggesting that we block the entrance from the stand to the concourse? Is there anything in the concourse? In the 5-6 games I been in the new south stand. You walk down some steps take a right and use the same bogs / beer and food as u would in the west terrace. The temporary section which separates fans in the so called concourse can be moved a few blocks allowing away fans to go into the concourse. But there's nothing in there !. So to answer your question . You just move the fixed section in the concourse ) up a few blocks to allow more away fans . |
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Post by jongas1 on Feb 5, 2024 21:12:13 GMT
South stand tents had no rear access. The only separation was a sheet. Some clubs were allowed 300 others allowed 600 some used the entire south stand. The sheet was moved around like a yo yo. So you are suggesting that we block the entrance from the stand to the concourse? Isn’t there a gate underneath in the concourse to create segregation? I thought I saw that at the Blackpool game. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 5, 2024 21:35:57 GMT
So you are suggesting that we block the entrance from the stand to the concourse? Isn’t there a gate underneath in the concourse to create segregation? I thought I saw that at the Blackpool game. Yes but think it is positioned so would only segregate end block or two by the looks of it. |
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Post by percy on Feb 5, 2024 21:38:15 GMT
Isn’t there a gate underneath in the concourse to create segregation? I thought I saw that at the Blackpool game. Yes but think it is positioned so would only segregate end block or two by the looks of it. Surely it’s moveable? Would imagine it was done with flexibility in mind. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 5, 2024 21:42:41 GMT
Isn’t there a gate underneath in the concourse to create segregation? I thought I saw that at the Blackpool game. Yes but think it is positioned so would only segregate end block or two by the looks of it. I could be wrong but it looks like a scaffolding tower with black sheets rather than fixed wielded gates . This means it could be positioned further along. If its a permanent structure then it's a silly thing to do as it won't allow any flexibility whatsoever. I will get a close up tommorow night . |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 5, 2024 22:08:01 GMT
Problem is that today's economy means that the costs for clubs has undoubtedly increased massively over the last couple of year, since 20 is plenty was launched. I know it's League 1 football so should be a lot cheaper as a lesser product, but I can't imagine that the matchday cost per supporter attending is much different between League 1 and the Premier League - similar number of stewards/ticket checkers per attendee, electricity, water, VAT etc. The Premier League clubs will enjoy greater economies of scale than Rovers. £25 to stay alive? the EFL should seriously look at how clubs outside of the German top division operates its ticket sells because they have a policy of a reduced ticket cost and a pay what you can policy and most if not all Lower league clubs sell out their stadiums and make money through match days food outlets/beer sales. Its a great gesture to offer fans and attract them to bring other members of their family and friends due to a cheaper entrance fee but they know the people who attend on match days will pay in other ways and return week on week. I doubt the EFL has any real control over match day prices, it's down to the individual clubs? |
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