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Post by amgas on Feb 6, 2024 10:31:20 GMT
When they first started selling season tickets they were only on the West end of the stand which implied the middle would move between home and away fans depending on demand.
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Post by gasonthemount on Feb 6, 2024 11:16:02 GMT
Sections A and B (SW Stand), C (Corner section), D, E and F (South Stand) all have season tickets holders in. So the maximum number of seats for away fans is limited to Sections G, H and J. So that is about 1500 seats max plus 550 terrace means that certain away teams can have up to 2,050. That equates to 16% of ground capacity. Some may have missed my earlier post above. I think we need to strike the right balance between providing better facilities/seating for home fans and what we give to away fans. i would not want to have 2,500 to 3,000 away fans out singing the home fans and making it very intimidating. An allocation of 2,000 for the big teams is reasonable, bearing in mind that there is also bigger demand from home fans. Of course when we develop the stadium further and get to a capacity of 16,000 to 18,000, the allocation to away teams can be looked at again. But 10% of 18,000 is 1,8000 which means we are already in a good position as to what we can allocate to away fans. In the Premier league you very rarely hear the away fans with allocations far less than 10%. If we can sell 6 to 7,000 season tickets because of the additional seating in the South Stand, then let’s go for it! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 6, 2024 11:16:49 GMT
If the concourse is not fully fitted out then how can the club pass the safety test events, which is apparently carried to test bottlenecks etc? All will be revealed when Derby allocation is confirmed. If its true away fans will only get 600 terrace 700 away . Then it's not much difference from the historical 1250 they always had. I assume it'll pass regardless, it just seems odd getting a safety certificate when all the proposed work hasn't been completed, unless the club has now decided it'll never be completed. |
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Post by supergas on Feb 6, 2024 11:30:10 GMT
All will be revealed when Derby allocation is confirmed. If its true away fans will only get 600 terrace 700 away . Then it's not much difference from the historical 1250 they always had. I assume it'll pass regardless, it just seems odd getting a safety certificate when all the proposed work hasn't been completed, unless the club has now decided it'll never be completed. We do have a history of retrospective planning applications/amendments at that end of the ground... |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2024 11:39:07 GMT
Sections A and B (SW Stand), C (Corner section), D, E and F (South Stand) all have season tickets holders in. So the maximum number of seats for away fans is limited to Sections G, H and J. So that is about 1500 seats max plus 550 terrace means that certain away teams can have up to 2,050. That equates to 16% of ground capacity. Some may have missed my earlier post above. I think we need to strike the right balance between providing better facilities/seating for home fans and what we give to away fans. i would not want to have 2,500 to 3,000 away fans out singing the home fans and making it very intimidating. An allocation of 2,000 for the big teams is reasonable, bearing in mind that there is also bigger demand from home fans. Of course when we develop the stadium further and get to a capacity of 16,000 to 18,000, the allocation to away teams can be looked at again. But 10% of 18,000 is 1,8000 which means we are already in a good position as to what we can allocate to away fans. In the Premier league you very rarely hear the away fans with allocations far less than 10%. If we can sell 6 to 7,000 season tickets because of the additional seating in the South Stand, then let’s go for it! I get this and agree to a point but….. when we have away games and we’re looking like we’ll get promoted you want to go to every game . Blackpool away sticks in the head , they had nothing to play for and we took about 8k fans and took over half of the ground. I’ll be eternally thankful for them letting our fans share that special day . |
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Feb 6, 2024 11:39:55 GMT
Why not go back in time. Some staff walking around the selling pies and pasties. And a tea lady or 2 at half time.
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 11:43:10 GMT
If the concourse is not fully fitted out then how can the club pass the safety test events, which is apparently carried to test bottlenecks etc? Maybe you have answered the question here. You can't. Which does seem to suggest it has to stay the way that it is. Nothing underneath the stand but the concourse. |
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Feb 6, 2024 11:48:49 GMT
Hotdog trolleys those were the days. Trouble is people always wanting to eat and drink at a football stadium. Imagine as a example the kop in its heyday 27000 stood. No half time capachinos or vegan wraps for many of them
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 12:23:19 GMT
Hotdog trolleys those were the days. Trouble is people always wanting to eat and drink at a football stadium. Imagine as a example the kop in its heyday 27000 stood. No half time capachinos or vegan wraps for many of them Problem solved: www.beer-backpack.com/beer-dispensing-backpack.htmlEven an opportunity to raise some additional sponsorship revenue. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 6, 2024 12:30:09 GMT
If the concourse is not fully fitted out then how can the club pass the safety test events, which is apparently carried to test bottlenecks etc? Maybe you have answered the question here. You can't. Which does seem to suggest it has to stay the way that it is. Nothing underneath the stand but the concourse. So why are we having test events which are apparently approved by SAG, just to make sure the drain pipes are fitted correctly? |
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 12:46:19 GMT
Maybe you have answered the question here. You can't. Which does seem to suggest it has to stay the way that it is. Nothing underneath the stand but the concourse. So why are we having test events which are apparently approved by SAG, just to make sure the drain pipes are fitted correctly? Are we having test events just to make sure the drain pipes are fitted correctly? |
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 6, 2024 12:55:31 GMT
Sections A and B (SW Stand), C (Corner section), D, E and F (South Stand) all have season tickets holders in. So the maximum number of seats for away fans is limited to Sections G, H and J. So that is about 1500 seats max plus 550 terrace means that certain away teams can have up to 2,050. That equates to 16% of ground capacity. Some may have missed my earlier post above. I think we need to strike the right balance between providing better facilities/seating for home fans and what we give to away fans. i would not want to have 2,500 to 3,000 away fans out singing the home fans and making it very intimidating. An allocation of 2,000 for the big teams is reasonable, bearing in mind that there is also bigger demand from home fans. Of course when we develop the stadium further and get to a capacity of 16,000 to 18,000, the allocation to away teams can be looked at again. But 10% of 18,000 is 1,8000 which means we are already in a good position as to what we can allocate to away fans. In the Premier league you very rarely hear the away fans with allocations far less than 10%. If we can sell 6 to 7,000 season tickets because of the additional seating in the South Stand, then let’s go for it! Away fans outsing home fans with similar numbers at Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge every other week. It doesn't matter really does it? How is it intimidating? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 6, 2024 14:57:49 GMT
Some may have missed my earlier post above. I think we need to strike the right balance between providing better facilities/seating for home fans and what we give to away fans. i would not want to have 2,500 to 3,000 away fans out singing the home fans and making it very intimidating. An allocation of 2,000 for the big teams is reasonable, bearing in mind that there is also bigger demand from home fans. Of course when we develop the stadium further and get to a capacity of 16,000 to 18,000, the allocation to away teams can be looked at again. But 10% of 18,000 is 1,8000 which means we are already in a good position as to what we can allocate to away fans. In the Premier league you very rarely hear the away fans with allocations far less than 10%. If we can sell 6 to 7,000 season tickets because of the additional seating in the South Stand, then let’s go for it! Away fans outsing home fans with similar numbers at Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge every other week. It doesn't matter really does it? How is it intimidating? There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? |
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 6, 2024 15:38:36 GMT
Away fans outsing home fans with similar numbers at Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge every other week. It doesn't matter really does it? How is it intimidating? There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? The West and East Stand have a seating capacity of roughly 12, it's to give our supporters an opportunity to sit. |
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 6, 2024 15:48:28 GMT
Away fans outsing home fans with similar numbers at Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge every other week. It doesn't matter really does it? How is it intimidating? There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? Safety? Police advice? Uptake in sales? We used to let the big clubs have the whole end. Forest, Leeds, City, in the past. |
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Post by poorblue on Feb 6, 2024 16:00:29 GMT
Away fans outsing home fans with similar numbers at Old Trafford, Anfield and Stamford Bridge every other week. It doesn't matter really does it? How is it intimidating? There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? Policing costs |
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Post by greciangas on Feb 6, 2024 16:12:07 GMT
Hotdog trolleys those were the days. Trouble is people always wanting to eat and drink at a football stadium. Imagine as a example the kop in its heyday 27000 stood. No half time capachinos or vegan wraps for many of them Didnt need toilets either... |
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 16:17:55 GMT
There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? Safety? Police advice? Uptake in sales? We used to let the big clubs have the whole end. Forest, Leeds, City, in the past. Oh, Manchester City. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 16:19:01 GMT
Hotdog trolleys those were the days. Trouble is people always wanting to eat and drink at a football stadium. Imagine as a example the kop in its heyday 27000 stood. No half time capachinos or vegan wraps for many of them Didnt need toilets either... Remember the toilets at The Vetch? P*ss where you want. |
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Post by aghast on Feb 6, 2024 17:10:51 GMT
I assume it'll pass regardless, it just seems odd getting a safety certificate when all the proposed work hasn't been completed, unless the club has now decided it'll never be completed. We do have a history of retrospective planning applications/amendments at that end of the ground... Planning amendments once the thing is built are pretty standard practice these days so we may yet see something on the trampoline wasteland. |
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