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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 6, 2024 17:14:50 GMT
There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? Safety? Police advice? Uptake in sales? We used to let the big clubs have the whole end. Forest, Leeds, City, in the past. Personally I can't see it being a big issue to adjust allocation based on demand. There's already gates in the concourse to divide fans. The massive separation sheets can be moved around . The club would need to put some additional toliets in the away section. If they rammed us all in v Oxford . They can reverse things to allocate away fans based on demand. It's a bit of adjusting needed before Derby in a month. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 6, 2024 17:16:56 GMT
Tempted to upgrade tonight with tonight’s weather.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Feb 6, 2024 17:27:27 GMT
We do have a history of retrospective planning applications/amendments at that end of the ground... Planning amendments once the thing is built are pretty standard practice these days so we may yet see something on the trampoline wasteland. I thought that area was designated as staying green as part of the approval. Happy to be corrected as can't be bothered to look. |
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Post by gasify on Feb 6, 2024 17:28:58 GMT
Safety? Police advice? Uptake in sales? We used to let the big clubs have the whole end. Forest, Leeds, City, in the past. Personally I can't see it being a big issue to adjust allocation based on demand. There's already gates in the concourse to divide fans. The massive separation sheets can be moved around . The club would need to put some additional toliets in the away section. If they rammed us all in v Oxford . They can reverse things to allocate away fans based on demand. It's a bit of adjusting needed before Derby in a month. The only way they can do that is by putting in another gate. They may have already done that. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 6, 2024 17:59:29 GMT
No way can there be an issue with overcrowding in the concourse. If there is, how has the only exit to the west enclosure been operating like it has forever and now the width of it has been reduced since the new south west stand has been put in place. This is my point . The game v Oxford we all piled out and used facilities in the west section. What is the difference if there is a sheet dividing fans and away fans use facilities in the away section ?. Afterall in the gloucestershire cricket gsnes I have witnessed 16000 crowds. You still need to walk to toliets in the corners of the ground. Surely ( if they can get away with it) you put protable facilities in the away section . There is a big space in the corner section . In regards to separation in the concourse . You install an additional gate . The gates should have openings if needed. 1) install extra toliet facilities in away section corner. 2) install additional gate allowing flexibility . And usage of exit points. 3) continuing using large sheets for segregation. If the above can't be done in the next 4 -5 weeks. Why build a stand with no scope for flexibility?. Yep point 2 I raised above. This should do it !. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 6, 2024 19:35:03 GMT
I could be wrong but it looks like a scaffolding tower with black sheets rather than fixed wielded gates . This means it could be positioned further along. If its a permanent structure then it's a silly thing to do as it won't allow any flexibility whatsoever. I will get a close up tommorow night . Looked a fixed metal gate to me Confirmed, solid metal gates bolted to floor |
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Post by gashead79 on Feb 6, 2024 20:12:22 GMT
Good job Fleetwood didn't bring 3000.
The 30 are outsinging and intimidating our side.
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Post by supergas on Feb 7, 2024 6:28:17 GMT
Planning amendments once the thing is built are pretty standard practice these days so we may yet see something on the trampoline wasteland. I thought that area was designated as staying green as part of the approval. Happy to be corrected as can't be bothered to look. Yes, under this application we have agreed to "...enhance..." 0.0951ha of offsite woodland to "...moderate..." condition, enough to meet the target of a 10% increase in biodiversity by 10.15% (I assume that's calculated by adding a birdbox and agreeing not to yell at foxes that might want to wee on the pitch....) ...if we then want to concrete over that area (and I assume we do at some point fairly soon) then it's just a new application and (I assume) some cash to upgrade something nearby to meet their arbitrary metric... |
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Post by gasonthemount on Feb 8, 2024 9:07:40 GMT
There must be a reason we normally limit away numbers, otherwise we'd have always let the bigger L1 clubs have the entire South Stand? Safety? Police advice? Uptake in sales? We used to let the big clubs have the whole end. Forest, Leeds, City, in the past. I think that when we used to allocate the entire end to away fans (in the South Stand tent) the seating capacity was 1,150 with a further 900 on the East terrace, making a total of 2,050. With the new South Stand we can still provide a similar number by allocating Sections G, H and J and the reduced terracing. |
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Post by playtowin on Feb 8, 2024 13:22:33 GMT
Let away fans lump it for now ,it wont be long before the east stand build begins.
When that starts there will be no available away standing. Therefore more will be housed in the south.
Im not sure how keen fans will be to give thousands of seats to away fans when the east terrace gets closed...
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Post by ashlinggas on Feb 8, 2024 13:50:50 GMT
South stand tickets now on sale for Carlisle game, but only for the block nearest SW stand. I can't see Carlisle needing 2,000 seats unless they want to sell one block at a time
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 8, 2024 14:19:46 GMT
Let away fans lump it for now ,it wont be long before the east stand build begins. When that starts there will be no available away standing. Therefore more will be housed in the south. Im not sure how keen fans will be to give thousands of seats to away fans when the east terrace gets closed... What business logic is there in turning away money now because we'll need all the seats for home fans at some point in the future? |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 8, 2024 14:32:40 GMT
Let away fans lump it for now ,it wont be long before the east stand build begins. When that starts there will be no available away standing. Therefore more will be housed in the south. Im not sure how keen fans will be to give thousands of seats to away fans when the east terrace gets closed... What business logic is there in turning away money now because we'll need all the seats for home fans at some point in the future? An extra 2000 away fans x £30 is nearly £60k a game . In division one you can expect 4 teams to sell extra tickets plus cup games. That's throwing away nearly £250k a season. Also planning / design will take at least a year from now and work won't start until spring / summer 2025 if we're lucky . The compromise is to sell home tickets from South west side in blocks . If we sell out the south stand in the BIG 4 coming up. Then we bank the £60k. If not let Derby Bolton Reading Peterboro ( last away game) pay. In that way home fans can't complain and the club fills the stand and banks the cash!. |
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Post by playtowin on Feb 8, 2024 17:13:00 GMT
Let away fans lump it for now ,it wont be long before the east stand build begins. When that starts there will be no available away standing. Therefore more will be housed in the south. Im not sure how keen fans will be to give thousands of seats to away fans when the east terrace gets closed... What business logic is there in turning away money now because we'll need all the seats for home fans at some point in the future? Extra staffing ,providing temp toilets and more food outlets may currently negate any profit on extra tickets (?) Why not give derby (for example) the whole south stand or alternatively the thatchers terrace or both if demand is there. |
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Post by gasonthemount on Feb 8, 2024 17:24:06 GMT
What business logic is there in turning away money now because we'll need all the seats for home fans at some point in the future? Extra staffing ,providing temp toilets and more food outlets may currently negate any profit on extra tickets (?) Why not give derby (for example) the whole south stand or alternatively the thatchers terrace or both if demand is there. Highly unlikely there are over 600 season tickets holders in SW stand and sections D and E of the South Stand. I am not going to move anywhere for away fans, stuff them. They can live with 2,050 in sections G, H and J and the away terrace. Why all this love for away fans? If we are playing Derby then there will be a big demand from home supporters. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 8, 2024 17:34:36 GMT
Extra staffing ,providing temp toilets and more food outlets may currently negate any profit on extra tickets (?) Why not give derby (for example) the whole south stand or alternatively the thatchers terrace or both if demand is there. Highly unlikely there are over 600 season tickets holders in SW stand and sections D and E of the South Stand. I am not going to move anywhere for away fans, stuff them. They can live with 2,050 in sections G, H and J and the away terrace. Why all this love for away fans? If we are playing Derby then there will be a big demand from home supporters. I think your right. They just put on sale D&E in South stand as well as us having south / west stand. If G H J allows Derby 2050 plus 600-700 terrace then that's fair enough. A good balance allowing both sets of fans plenty of tickets. We will have around 9000 plus home tickets to sale. |
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Post by gasonthemount on Feb 8, 2024 18:28:30 GMT
Extra staffing ,providing temp toilets and more food outlets may currently negate any profit on extra tickets (?) Why not give derby (for example) the whole south stand or alternatively the thatchers terrace or both if demand is there. Highly unlikely there are over 600 season tickets holders in SW stand and sections D and E of the South Stand. I am not going to move anywhere for away fans, stuff them. They can live with 2,050 in sections G, H and J and the away terrace. Why all this love for away fans? If we are playing Derby then there will be a big demand from home supporters. Correction to my comment above: There are over 600 season ticket holders in SW stand etc. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 8, 2024 18:46:16 GMT
Extra staffing ,providing temp toilets and more food outlets may currently negate any profit on extra tickets (?) Why not give derby (for example) the whole south stand or alternatively the thatchers terrace or both if demand is there. Highly unlikely there are over 600 season tickets holders in SW stand and sections D and E of the South Stand. I am not going to move anywhere for away fans, stuff them. They can live with 2,050 in sections G, H and J and the away terrace. Why all this love for away fans? If we are playing Derby then there will be a big demand from home supporters. I sense you're agreeing with what most of us have suggested, give Derby 2,050 seats and the away terrace, if we do that we could well have our first sell out since the new stand was finished. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 10, 2024 14:25:44 GMT
Changed over our two ST, s in the WE in the shop today as arranged with Pete.
Had to settle for section E as no ST,s available in F and G until season end.
Not a bad view at all and did not cost a penny.
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Post by northseagas on Feb 10, 2024 14:30:29 GMT
Sat in the south stand for the 1st time today
and got to say well impressed with the set up
Sat in block G and all bar the pillars a good decent
view. Will most probably go for a season ticket in here next season. UTG 👍🏻
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