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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 20:39:35 GMT
Once a decision is made to do it (which i assume has happened else TG wouldnt have mentioned it). People can quickly crack on with getting estimates etc from various companies. There is 4 months to arrange it all then a month to install it. Should easily be completed in time. Unless we need pp then we're stuck waiting for that process to run it's course www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-city-councils-planning-backlog-8004341And Ashton Gate’s Sporting Quarter plans were at City Hall for 18 months before it was finally given approval - setting the project back a couple of years, and impacting on the overall costs. |
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Post by playtowin on Feb 21, 2023 20:49:06 GMT
And Ashton Gate’s Sporting Quarter plans were at City Hall for 18 months before it was finally given approval - setting the project back a couple of years, and impacting on the overall costs. Not sure whether temp buildings with no heating ,plumbing etc will take as long. Do you need PP to put scaffolding on a building out of interest ? Does Wimbledon Tennis not put up temp stands every year...surely they cant be waiting 18months ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 20:53:00 GMT
And Ashton Gate’s Sporting Quarter plans were at City Hall for 18 months before it was finally given approval - setting the project back a couple of years, and impacting on the overall costs. Not sure whether temp buildings with no heating ,plumbing etc will take as long. Do you need PP to put scaffolding on a building out of interest ? Does Wimbledon Tennis not put up temp stands every year...surely they cant be waiting 18months ? I should imagine that if delegated powers are given to a planning officer then things could happen quicker but the report in Bristol Live states that months are being taken to allocate a planning officer to applications. As for Wimbledon: When Do You HAVE to Apply for Planning Permission? So, when do you actually have to apply for planning permission when it comes to a temporary structure? Well, if you follow a simple rule of “if your structure is going to be required for more than 28 days, you are likely to need planning permission” you won’t be too far out. |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Feb 21, 2023 21:56:15 GMT
Not sure whether temp buildings with no heating ,plumbing etc will take as long. Do you need PP to put scaffolding on a building out of interest ? Does Wimbledon Tennis not put up temp stands every year...surely they cant be waiting 18months ? I should imagine that if delegated powers are given to a planning officer then things could happen quicker but the report in Bristol Live states that months are being taken to allocate a planning officer to applications. As for Wimbledon: When Do You HAVE to Apply for Planning Permission? So, when do you actually have to apply for planning permission when it comes to a temporary structure? Well, if you follow a simple rule of “if your structure is going to be required for more than 28 days, you are likely to need planning permission” you won’t be too far out. I said it earlier on in this thread - doesn’t matter what your project is (extension, loft conversion, new build etc.) at BCC at the moment the timeframe within that article is very accurate and even at householder level we aren’t getting allocated officers. (Just a BCC problem by the way, South Glos, BANES are flowing nicely…) Rovers haven’t applied for anything at all yet and unless they somehow magically get shunted up the queue they will struggle to have permission in place for the start of next season. They could always appeal to PI (takes as long…) or install and ask for forgiveness later (like last time) but it remains to be seen what the strategy is as they or their consultants may not be aware of the current situation with BCC. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 21, 2023 21:56:46 GMT
Awaiting planning approval could be a hurdle. However : do we need to dismantle the entire two stands to start ?. If it starts from Away end then I see no reason why the south / west need to come down. Also they could remove half of the south stand allowing plenty of space to start. Either way we will have a ground reduction of between 500 ( best ) to around 1300 ( worst) for build.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 21, 2023 22:14:11 GMT
Awaiting planning approval could be a hurdle. However : do we need to dismantle the entire two stands to start ?. If it starts from Away end then I see no reason why the south / west need to come down. Also they could remove half of the south stand allowing plenty of space to start. Either way we will have a ground reduction of between 500 ( best ) to around 1300 ( worst) for build. Surely if we do ever get around to replacing the stands then we will do it during the summer, so that attendances aren't affected whilst they are being built/erected? |
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Post by richmace on Feb 22, 2023 7:39:02 GMT
Whether the building work happens in time for this summer (whilst very important and the logical time to make the change) is not the critical point for me.
The fact that the club have decided to invest in The Mem is the critical factor. I 100% agree with this decision, it should in theory pay for itself and will be a welcome improvement to the stadium.
Assuming this is going ahead (this is Bristol Rovers after all), I guess the timings are dependant on how quick we move as a club, and reliant on external factors. We may have to be patient with that.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Feb 22, 2023 10:34:51 GMT
Not sure whether temp buildings with no heating ,plumbing etc will take as long. Do you need PP to put scaffolding on a building out of interest ? Does Wimbledon Tennis not put up temp stands every year...surely they cant be waiting 18months ? I should imagine that if delegated powers are given to a planning officer then things could happen quicker but the report in Bristol Live states that months are being taken to allocate a planning officer to applications. As for Wimbledon: When Do You HAVE to Apply for Planning Permission? So, when do you actually have to apply for planning permission when it comes to a temporary structure? Well, if you follow a simple rule of “if your structure is going to be required for more than 28 days, you are likely to need planning permission” you won’t be too far out. With the Green Party having a majority on the Planning committee now i can only see the wait getting longer |
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 22, 2023 13:16:13 GMT
I should imagine that if delegated powers are given to a planning officer then things could happen quicker but the report in Bristol Live states that months are being taken to allocate a planning officer to applications. As for Wimbledon: When Do You HAVE to Apply for Planning Permission? So, when do you actually have to apply for planning permission when it comes to a temporary structure? Well, if you follow a simple rule of “if your structure is going to be required for more than 28 days, you are likely to need planning permission” you won’t be too far out. We the Green Party having a majority on the Planning committee now i can only see the wait getting longer Why would anyone vote in the anti capitalist, anti investment, nimby tree huggers into a major city in need of investment, infrastructure and regeneration is beyond me. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 22, 2023 13:28:37 GMT
We the Green Party having a majority on the Planning committee now i can only see the wait getting longer Why would anyone vote in the anti capitalist, anti investment, nimby tree huggers into a major city in need of investment, infrastructure and regeneration is beyond me. No politics on this section thanks 😊 |
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Post by baggins on Feb 22, 2023 13:46:44 GMT
We the Green Party having a majority on the Planning committee now i can only see the wait getting longer Why would anyone vote in the anti capitalist, anti investment, nimby tree huggers into a major city in need of investment, infrastructure and regeneration is beyond me. Because it's falling apart under the current lot? |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 22, 2023 13:49:17 GMT
I should imagine that if delegated powers are given to a planning officer then things could happen quicker but the report in Bristol Live states that months are being taken to allocate a planning officer to applications. As for Wimbledon: When Do You HAVE to Apply for Planning Permission? So, when do you actually have to apply for planning permission when it comes to a temporary structure? Well, if you follow a simple rule of “if your structure is going to be required for more than 28 days, you are likely to need planning permission” you won’t be too far out. With the Green Party having a majority on the Planning committee now i can only see the wait getting longer The Greens can't have there cake and eat it!. They craftly worked with Trash and Horfield Rose to stop any major development. They then craftly put pressure on BCC to introduce conditions on the the Memorial site a lot of forum users won't be aware of. The Greens and Trash made a statement " welcoming the news we are staying at the MeM and supporting any upgrading of the ground". So on the face of it they got what they wanted . Will they actually contradict themselves?. If they do then it opens up the possibility of us selling it to retail/ commercial use which they oppose. bishopstonsociety.org.uk/planning/commentary/491-dan-radice-sainsburys |
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Post by aghast on Feb 22, 2023 17:43:08 GMT
Not sure it's altogether fair to start blaming the Greens for all this.
Maybe when we've identified something, and somewhere, and someone to pay for it, and designed it, and applied for planning permission, and seen the pp rejected, THEN we can blame those rotters the Greens.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2023 17:53:52 GMT
Not sure it's altogether fair to start blaming the Greens for all this. Maybe when we've identified something, and somewhere, and someone to pay for it, and designed it, and applied for planning permission, and seen the pp rejected, THEN we can blame those rotters the Greens. Radice along with Trash did all they could to delay Sainsbury's proceeding with building a supermarket, who knows what would have happened if pp had just been accepted without any issues being raised: www.bishopstonvoice.co.uk/campaigners-hope-stadium-judicial-review-will-get-go-ahead |
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Post by aghast on Feb 22, 2023 18:02:01 GMT
Not sure it's altogether fair to start blaming the Greens for all this. Maybe when we've identified something, and somewhere, and someone to pay for it, and designed it, and applied for planning permission, and seen the pp rejected, THEN we can blame those rotters the Greens. Radice along with Trash did all they could to delay Sainsbury's proceeding with building a supermarket, who knows what would have happened if pp had just been accepted without any issues being raised: www.bishopstonvoice.co.uk/campaigners-hope-stadium-judicial-review-will-get-go-aheadAnd your point is, regarding our nonexistent plans? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 22, 2023 18:13:28 GMT
And your point is, regarding our nonexistent plans? If the Greens/Trash hadn't contested Sainsbury's pp we might have a new stadium at the UWE instead of worrying about getting pp for temporary stands at the Mem. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 22, 2023 18:35:12 GMT
Not sure it's altogether fair to start blaming the Greens for all this. Maybe when we've identified something, and somewhere, and someone to pay for it, and designed it, and applied for planning permission, and seen the pp rejected, THEN we can blame those rotters the Greens. The Greens are exactly to blame for the UWE not happening and also for previous sabotage of the Mem regen. Without that achrid, tofu guzzling, hippy dickhead that was Radice we would likely have sailed through. I haven’t forgotten and I’ll never forgive them and they can stick Greta up their arse. Sideways. |
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Post by Smithy Gas on Feb 22, 2023 19:41:30 GMT
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 22, 2023 19:46:30 GMT
Thanks for posting article . Where did you get it from ?. Did I read right 4000 south stand wow ? |
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Post by wallywalters on Feb 22, 2023 20:10:02 GMT
Wow. 4k is a really decent size stand. Wasn't expecting that much of an increase. Would be great to see. And would take our capacity back up to 12k plus.
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