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Post by heartofgas on May 16, 2023 8:26:53 GMT
Absolutely not. Why not 12 up and 12 down in all divisions? L1 to L2 should go to 3 and 3 and non league stay at 2. It’s supposed to be difficult, more just devalues it. I agree it should be difficult to get into the football league not made easier. The fact the top 2 in the National league achieved over 100 points and goals shows how crap the rest of the league were. Now that County and Wrexham are up it does leave even more tosh in that league. Imagine 3 or 4 coming up from that lot. Will probably be more exciting next season though. I would say it shows how strong Wrexham and Notts County were rather than the poor quality of the other teams. Wrexham and Notts county will be at the top end of L2 next year. |
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Post by percy on May 16, 2023 8:32:49 GMT
Absolutely not. Why not 12 up and 12 down in all divisions? L1 to L2 should go to 3 and 3 and non league stay at 2. It’s supposed to be difficult, more just devalues it. Of course not. i just think 4 is optimal. It's 4 between L1 and L2 and that didn't make it easy for us. If it wasn't for 4 up from L2 three of our last four promotions wouldn't have happened. Or shouldn't we have gone up because we weren't good enough? How many of the NL promoted teams go straight back down? How many L2 relegated teams come straight back up. How many teams have done back to back promotions to L1? I would say Wrexham and Notts county are probably good bets to do that next year. The idea of divisions is so you play against similar quality and games aren't walk overs. There are lots of dross teams in the bottom half of L2 that would be worse than the top half of the NL. It's different days to when the non league was ramshackle and amature. I think for all 24 team divisions it should be 4 up 4 down. All about opinions. But couldn’t disagree more. 3 and 3 for ELF. Fewer for non league. Doesn’t matter if teams could survive. They have to earn the right. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 16, 2023 8:39:20 GMT
Edit: Just checked, Workington horribly bottom in 1977 although rest of post stands! Wigan beat Bath City in the vote to take their place Blimey, Bath eh, that could have had a huge bearing on our future had they got in, re Twerton move! |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2023 12:01:28 GMT
Sheff Weds are 66-1 to win 5-0 in the Second leg - probably crazy but I put a small wager on that and also 5-1
Watch them get dicked 0-2 now.
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Post by heartofgas on May 16, 2023 13:51:33 GMT
Of course not. i just think 4 is optimal. It's 4 between L1 and L2 and that didn't make it easy for us. If it wasn't for 4 up from L2 three of our last four promotions wouldn't have happened. Or shouldn't we have gone up because we weren't good enough? How many of the NL promoted teams go straight back down? How many L2 relegated teams come straight back up. How many teams have done back to back promotions to L1? I would say Wrexham and Notts county are probably good bets to do that next year. The idea of divisions is so you play against similar quality and games aren't walk overs. There are lots of dross teams in the bottom half of L2 that would be worse than the top half of the NL. It's different days to when the non league was ramshackle and amature. I think for all 24 team divisions it should be 4 up 4 down. All about opinions. But couldn’t disagree more. 3 and 3 for ELF. Fewer for non league. Doesn’t matter if teams could survive. They have to earn the right. Yes indeed, it is about opinions. It seems you are coming from it as a reward/merit whereas for me it's about getting teams playing other teams of similar level, there is obviously still the merit though. I think more up and down would lead to a better distribution of the wealth in football. We may be in an unusual situation but in L1 there were/are 4 or 5 teams that are definitely above this level. For Sheffield Wednesday to get 96 points and not get promoted seems pretty unjust. |
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Post by percy on May 16, 2023 14:00:43 GMT
All about opinions. But couldn’t disagree more. 3 and 3 for ELF. Fewer for non league. Doesn’t matter if teams could survive. They have to earn the right. Yes indeed, it is about opinions. It seems you are coming from it as a reward/merit whereas for me it's about getting teams playing other teams of similar level, there is obviously still the merit though. I think more up and down would lead to a better distribution of the wealth in football. We may be in an unusual situation but in L1 there were/are 4 or 5 teams that are definitely above this level. For Sheffield Wednesday to get 96 points and not get promoted seems pretty unjust. But that would also mean this year for example, maybe only 1 team should be promoted from the championship. The rest of the division is no where near premiership standard! |
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Post by aghast on May 16, 2023 16:03:26 GMT
Yes indeed, it is about opinions. It seems you are coming from it as a reward/merit whereas for me it's about getting teams playing other teams of similar level, there is obviously still the merit though. I think more up and down would lead to a better distribution of the wealth in football. We may be in an unusual situation but in L1 there were/are 4 or 5 teams that are definitely above this level. For Sheffield Wednesday to get 96 points and not get promoted seems pretty unjust. But that would also mean this year for example, maybe only 1 team should be promoted from the championship. The rest of the division is no where near premiership standard! The bottom ten in the premier league are nowhere near premier league standard. That's why they all keep getting relegated the season after they go up. It's like a merry go round for clubs like Norwich, West Brom, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Watford etc etc. |
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Post by Quarters on May 16, 2023 16:17:28 GMT
But that would also mean this year for example, maybe only 1 team should be promoted from the championship. The rest of the division is no where near premiership standard! The bottom ten in the premier league are nowhere near premier league standard. That's why they all keep getting relegated the season after they go up. It's like a merry go round for clubs like Norwich, West Brom, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Watford etc etc. Leeds, Leicester, Southampton have all been there a while now. If these three go down then no clubs promoted last season will have been relegated. Don't call me pedantic. |
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Post by aghast on May 16, 2023 16:23:31 GMT
The bottom ten in the premier league are nowhere near premier league standard. That's why they all keep getting relegated the season after they go up. It's like a merry go round for clubs like Norwich, West Brom, Burnley, Sheff Utd, Watford etc etc. Leeds, Leicester, Southampton have all been there a while now. If these three go down then no clubs promoted last season will have been relegated. Don't call me pedantic. But its still true as a consistent trend. The bottom ten or so are light years behind those above them, and the top six or so are in a different dimension. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 16, 2023 16:40:25 GMT
Promotion to the Premier League could cost Luton Town about £10m in ground improvements, despite work on a new stadium due to start.
The Hatters are currently third in the Championship.
Chief executive Gary Sweet said they would have to "pretty much rebuild" one stand at their Kenilworth Road ground to comply with Premier League requirements.
"It is maybe more of a gargantuan task than building a new stadium," he said.
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Post by Quarters on May 16, 2023 18:36:28 GMT
Promotion to the Premier League could cost Luton Town about £10m in ground improvements, despite work on a new stadium due to start. The Hatters are currently third in the Championship. Chief executive Gary Sweet said they would have to "pretty much rebuild" one stand at their Kenilworth Road ground to comply with Premier League requirements. "It is maybe more of a gargantuan task than building a new stadium," he said. Given they could receive over £100mill then nice problem having to spend 10mill |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 16, 2023 18:58:47 GMT
Leeds, Leicester, Southampton have all been there a while now. If these three go down then no clubs promoted last season will have been relegated. Don't call me pedantic. But its still true as a consistent trend. The bottom ten or so are light years behind those above them, and the top six or so are in a different dimension. Not sure Brentford are light years ahead of the bottom ten, likewise Brighton have only turned the corner this season. The top six plus usually Chelsea are in a different league financially so can buy the best players, similar the L1 where the top 10 are in a different league financially although Plymouth crash their stronghold with a much smaller playing budget. |
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Post by yattongas on May 16, 2023 19:04:46 GMT
Of course not. i just think 4 is optimal. It's 4 between L1 and L2 and that didn't make it easy for us. If it wasn't for 4 up from L2 three of our last four promotions wouldn't have happened. Or shouldn't we have gone up because we weren't good enough? How many of the NL promoted teams go straight back down? How many L2 relegated teams come straight back up. How many teams have done back to back promotions to L1? I would say Wrexham and Notts county are probably good bets to do that next year. The idea of divisions is so you play against similar quality and games aren't walk overs. There are lots of dross teams in the bottom half of L2 that would be worse than the top half of the NL. It's different days to when the non league was ramshackle and amature. I think for all 24 team divisions it should be 4 up 4 down. All about opinions. But couldn’t disagree more. 3 and 3 for ELF. Fewer for non league. Doesn’t matter if teams could survive. They have to earn the right. But on that basis all the leagues below that should have 2 or maybe even just one promotion place because they have to earn it ! All leagues should be 3 up and 3 down from the premier league down to level 11 or wherever is the lowest level. |
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Post by yattongas on May 16, 2023 19:07:41 GMT
But its still true as a consistent trend. The bottom ten or so are light years behind those above them, and the top six or so are in a different dimension. Not sure Brentford are light years ahead of the bottom ten, likewise Brighton have only turned the corner this season. The top six plus usually Chelsea are in a different league financially so can buy the best players, similar the L1 where the top 10 are in a different league financially although Plymouth crash their stronghold with a much smaller playing budget. Really annoys me when fans say things like “ City are light years ahead of us “ . We could use Brentford as another example, they’re in the premier league with a half decent stadium but I remember playing them quite recently….. not light years ago! 😀 |
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Post by bidefordgas on May 16, 2023 19:46:04 GMT
Tom at it again, another brilliant header to put Luton two up and 3-2 on aggregate.
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Post by mariobalotelli on May 16, 2023 19:46:44 GMT
Get in locksss
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Post by yattongas on May 16, 2023 19:51:41 GMT
Tom at it again, another brilliant header to put Luton two up and 3-2 on aggregate. He’s scored a few goals lately hasn’t he . Was never that prolific at the Gas 😂 |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 16, 2023 19:51:54 GMT
Not sure Brentford are light years ahead of the bottom ten, likewise Brighton have only turned the corner this season. The top six plus usually Chelsea are in a different league financially so can buy the best players, similar the L1 where the top 10 are in a different league financially although Plymouth crash their stronghold with a much smaller playing budget. Really annoys me when fans say things like “ City are light years ahead of us “ . We could use Brentford as another example, they’re in the premier league with a half decent stadium but I remember playing them quite recently….. not light years ago! 😀 Definitely not light years, given a plan and money we'd catch up in 3-5 years and it only takes a season to get to the Championship. |
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Post by pirate on May 16, 2023 19:52:41 GMT
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Post by yattongas on May 16, 2023 19:53:50 GMT
Really annoys me when fans say things like “ City are light years ahead of us “ . We could use Brentford as another example, they’re in the premier league with a half decent stadium but I remember playing them quite recently….. not light years ago! 😀 Definitely not light years, given a plan and money we'd catch up in 3-5 years and it only takes a season to get to the Championship. Exactly Stu , and in 5-7 yrs time we’ll be light years ahead of the sh1t ! 😂 |
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