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Post by peterparker on Jul 5, 2023 14:39:04 GMT
hopefully this works
info on charges and ban
"Mr Barton had referred to the Match Referee, before the red card, as a “*ing little Special lady garden”. In his first statement Mr Barton’s stated that he had not sworn. This was a statement which was effectively withdrawn his late admissions of the 2nd and 3rd Charges"
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 5, 2023 15:31:18 GMT
No worse or better than we thought it would be, it seems JB basically lost his head over a dodgy offside decision in a fairly meaningless end of season game.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 5, 2023 15:37:27 GMT
Not sure why the ref got the brunt of it and not the lino though?
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 5, 2023 15:43:18 GMT
Is that all?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 5, 2023 16:12:57 GMT
Prepare the gallows on Horfield Common. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 5, 2023 16:19:45 GMT
Not sure why the ref got the brunt of it and not the lino though? Past history with the ref seems likely? |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 5, 2023 16:27:07 GMT
officials too soft these days... they need to man the F##k up
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 5, 2023 17:00:02 GMT
officials too soft these days... they need to man the Cheese up They should try working for Local Government - "I pay your wages, you effing lazy slag, etc, etc, etc"  They don't even get a red card for that! |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 5, 2023 17:09:33 GMT
Seems a bit pathetic to me. Hardly the crime of the century being sworn at a bit.
I'm all for protecting officials but a stadium ban for calling someone a lady garden? Seems a bit much.
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Post by clockendgas on Jul 5, 2023 17:12:40 GMT
Prepare the gallows on Horfield Common. Is that what you call gallows humour tilly? |
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Post by peterparker on Jul 5, 2023 17:25:19 GMT
Seems a bit pathetic to me. Hardly the crime of the century being sworn at a bit. I'm all for protecting officials but a stadium ban for calling someone a lady garden? Seems a bit much. reading the report, the punishment is a result of previous charges over a collection of years and no improvement in Joey's attitude/manner etc on the touchline, not just this specific incident |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 5, 2023 17:31:24 GMT
Seems a bit pathetic to me. Hardly the crime of the century being sworn at a bit. I'm all for protecting officials but a stadium ban for calling someone a lady garden? Seems a bit much. reading the report, the punishment is a result of previous charges over a collection of years and no improvement in Joey's attitude/manner etc on the touchline, not just this specific incident Is there some sort of punishment for referees who don't show no improvement over a number of years?  Only joking - I wouldn't do their job. |
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 5, 2023 17:32:18 GMT
Seems a bit pathetic to me. Hardly the crime of the century being sworn at a bit. I'm all for protecting officials but a stadium ban for calling someone a lady garden? Seems a bit much. reading the report, the punishment is a result of previous charges over a collection of years and no improvement in Joey's attitude/manner etc on the touchline, not just this specific incident Joey is no saint of course. However I do think his reputation precedes him and imo it is a bit of a witch hunt. At the top of the game you see the likes of Jurgen Klopp do far worse. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 5, 2023 17:34:38 GMT
reading the report, the punishment is a result of previous charges over a collection of years and no improvement in Joey's attitude/manner etc on the touchline, not just this specific incident Is there some sort of punishment for referees who don't show no improvement over a number of years? Only joking - I wouldn't do their job. Lifetime membership of Gaschat. 😃 |
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Post by kruger on Jul 5, 2023 18:09:35 GMT
F.....g w.....s all of them, Twats Numptys dick heads, am I going to get a 3 match stadium ban now aswell
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Post by phillistine on Jul 5, 2023 18:18:34 GMT
No worse or better than we thought it would be, it seems JB basically lost his head over a dodgy offside decision in a fairly meaningless end of season game. The problem with charges like this is that they are taken and analysed out of context when we have all calmed down and can agree what would have been the correct thing to do . Football is an emotional game though and i remember this. It wasnt an offside decision. i was right behind the incident and the referee had been ok generally but suddenly had a couple of minutes where he made a couple of mistakes and lost control. He booked a few players and then made a string of questionable decisions - which each were greeted with protests by players who were crowding him to the point that he lost his head . it all culminated in a very obvious foul on Coburn- I may be wrong with the player there - which he gave a ridiculous decision the wrong way. I know that we can all be biast but if i had been in JB's shoes then i would too have let off a few expletives as it was so obviously wrong and the players were affecting . JB was not running up and down the line or harranging the fourth official and from the rear he seemed to be quite calm. He hadnt had a warning that i was aware of so i was surprised when he was sent off . to me it was a referee trying to prove that he was in charge |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jul 5, 2023 18:52:39 GMT
reading the report, the punishment is a result of previous charges over a collection of years and no improvement in Joey's attitude/manner etc on the touchline, not just this specific incident Joey is no saint of course. However I do think his reputation precedes him and imo it is a bit of a witch hunt. At the top of the game you see the likes of Jurgen Klopp do far worse. Unlike Gurnam Singh who was legendary for being incompetent but was equally so for both sides, referees who ramp up their incompetence when Joey is in the dugout because his reputation precedes him are less likely to do so equally. Macron have supplied JB with a “why always me ?” Gaffer’s tracksuit and a “sorry ref” baseball cap for the coming season. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 5, 2023 19:02:49 GMT
No worse or better than we thought it would be, it seems JB basically lost his head over a dodgy offside decision in a fairly meaningless end of season game. The problem with charges like this is that they are taken and analysed out of context when we have all calmed down and can agree what would have been the correct thing to do . Football is an emotional game though and i remember this. It wasnt an offside decision. i was right behind the incident and the referee had been ok generally but suddenly had a couple of minutes where he made a couple of mistakes and lost control. He booked a few players and then made a string of questionable decisions - which each were greeted with protests by players who were crowding him to the point that he lost his head . it all culminated in a very obvious foul on Coburn- I may be wrong with the player there - which he gave a ridiculous decision the wrong way. I know that we can all be biast but if i had been in JB's shoes then i would too have let off a few expletives as it was so obviously wrong and the players were affecting . JB was not running up and down the line or harranging the fourth official and from the rear he seemed to be quite calm. He hadnt had a warning that i was aware of so i was surprised when he was sent off . to me it was a referee trying to prove that he was in charge I thought refs were in charge? Surprised anybody is defending JB after reading the report, as it seems he swore at the ref at the end of the game for which he got a red card, having already got a yellow during the game, then had to be restrained by members of the Rovers staff from having another go at the ref, then 8(?) minutes after the game had finished decided to have another go at the ref. If JB had just calmed down and left it after picking up the red he would have probably escaped with a touchline ban. |
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 5, 2023 21:46:06 GMT
The problem with charges like this is that they are taken and analysed out of context when we have all calmed down and can agree what would have been the correct thing to do . Football is an emotional game though and i remember this. It wasnt an offside decision. i was right behind the incident and the referee had been ok generally but suddenly had a couple of minutes where he made a couple of mistakes and lost control. He booked a few players and then made a string of questionable decisions - which each were greeted with protests by players who were crowding him to the point that he lost his head . it all culminated in a very obvious foul on Coburn- I may be wrong with the player there - which he gave a ridiculous decision the wrong way. I know that we can all be biast but if i had been in JB's shoes then i would too have let off a few expletives as it was so obviously wrong and the players were affecting . JB was not running up and down the line or harranging the fourth official and from the rear he seemed to be quite calm. He hadnt had a warning that i was aware of so i was surprised when he was sent off . to me it was a referee trying to prove that he was in charge I thought refs were in charge? Surprised anybody is defending JB after reading the report, as it seems he swore at the ref at the end of the game for which he got a red card, having already got a yellow during the game, then had to be restrained by members of the Rovers staff from having another go at the ref, then 8(?) minutes after the game had finished decided to have another go at the ref. If JB had just calmed down and left it after picking up the red he would have probably escaped with a touchline ban. This is where the problem lies I think. To a certain extent they are in charge to enforce the laws of the game, however, Joey has made this point several times himself, why are referee's who aren't professional, officiating professional sports games? The players, managers, coaches, physios, scouts, Groundsmen etc are all full time generally, yet the referee's who turn up to make the in game decisions aren't? How many other industries or sectors does that happen? Officials decisions ultimately have a bearing on not just managers and players livelihoods, but also finances of the entire club. I've never got the saying 'Decisions even themselves up over the course of the season'. For me it's absolute nonsense. Nothing is worse than losing because a referee has failed to award you a stonewall penalty. I get just like the players the standard will filter down,so the best referee's will generally officiate in the Premier League, then the Championship and so on, but Leagues 1 and 2 are still professional Footballers, surely it's not to much to ask to finally get professional referees at those levels too? Being a professional would surely boost their fitness, as most lower league referee's can barely keep up with play, their fitness levels are definitely lacking and it's the biggest thing I've noticed actually. The linesmans and 4th officials are pretty much pointless in Leagues 1 and 2, they don't seem to have any backbones at all. I'm not surprised managers get frustrated and lash out at them, just as we do on the terraces. We all make mistakes of course, and human error is understandable, but surely having professional officials will eradicate a lot of the errors they make and will improve the standard significantly just like everything else? |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 5, 2023 21:49:31 GMT
officials too soft these days... they need to man the Cheese up They should try working for Local Government - "I pay your wages, you effing lazy slag, etc, etc, etc" They don't even get a red card for that! Never ever work for local gov ! 👎 |
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They don't even get a red card for that! 
