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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 13:14:25 GMT
Why should people not support Rovers if they don't support the manager. Many did not support Coughlan yet still went to games. Not saying the fans shouldnt support the team, but having Barton as manager hardly seems to our detriment like many on here would like to think Would say not many went when coughlan was in charge. The football was shocking and can't believe we would be building a new stand under his tenure
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Post by yattongas on Jul 14, 2023 13:20:32 GMT
For the few very vocal voices on here wanting him out we’re probably going to have record season ticket sales this season. Context. I am a ST holder, dont vocally support him but still support the team and club. Would celebrate as hard as anyone if we go up this year. Just wish he'd concentrate on that, not exactly got a stunning L1 record with us. Even the biggest Barton fans must know it will end in tears, sooner rather than later. I’m similar, don’t really support him and don’t particularly like him. As long as he’s moving us forward as a club and he’s not causing too much grief with his off field antics and social media postings . Think he’s done an ok job so far as I think we’re better now than when he came in , but we should be as he’s been here 2 yrs. Gotta move us forward again this season which is at least challenging for the playoffs. Most managerial appointments end in tears by either getting sacked or ditching you to move up the greasy pole.
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Post by onefindunford on Jul 14, 2023 13:35:37 GMT
I am a ST holder, dont vocally support him but still support the team and club. Would celebrate as hard as anyone if we go up this year. Just wish he'd concentrate on that, not exactly got a stunning L1 record with us. Even the biggest Barton fans must know it will end in tears, sooner rather than later. I’m similar, don’t really support him and don’t particularly like him. As long as he’s moving us forward as a club and he’s not causing too much grief with his off field antics and social media postings . Think he’s done an ok job so far as I think we’re better now than when he came in , but we should be as he’s been here 2 yrs. Gotta move us forward again this season which is at least challenging for the playoffs. Most managerial appointments end in tears by either getting sacked or ditching you to move up the greasy pole. This is exactly how I feel. UTG
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Jul 14, 2023 13:43:03 GMT
It will end in tears sooner or later as you say, because that is the nature of football. He will either get sacked or leave for a bigger club, either way it will end in tears. However, I can't help but feel as though it will likely end sooner rather than later and in probably in a unsavoury manor. Hope I am proved wrong, but just have a feeling something has changed over the last few weeks.. Almost feels as though he is pushing himself towards the exit door with his ramblings on twitter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 14:09:17 GMT
It will end in tears sooner or later as you say, because that is the nature of football. He will either get sacked or leave for a bigger club, either way it will end in tears. However, I can't help but feel as though it will likely end sooner rather than later and in probably in a unsavoury manor. Hope I am proved wrong, but just have a feeling something has changed over the last few weeks.. Almost feels as though he is pushing himself towards the exit door with his ramblings on twitter. Absolutely agree with this. Don't know what is going on but something is off. Almost as if he is trying to slowly twist the screw until he gets sacked. I mean what is this new money making twitter nonsense all about? Hardly a good look when he is supposed to be this focused footie manager with his eyes on the prize. Odd. Note that even earlier in the summer there was more from him in terms of local media. Very quiet now and doesn't seem to have been doing the press stuff after the pre season games either. Absolutely not in the know but something feels strange.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 14, 2023 14:11:55 GMT
It will end in tears sooner or later as you say, because that is the nature of football. He will either get sacked or leave for a bigger club, either way it will end in tears. However, I can't help but feel as though it will likely end sooner rather than later and in probably in a unsavoury manor. Hope I am proved wrong, but just have a feeling something has changed over the last few weeks.. Almost feels as though he is pushing himself towards the exit door with his ramblings on twitter. Absolutely agree with this. Don't know what is going on but something is off. Almost as if he is trying to slowly twist the screw until he gets sacked. I mean what is this new money making twitter nonsense all about? Hardly a good look when he is supposed to be this focused footie manager with his eyes on the prize. Odd. Note that even earlier in the summer there was more from him in terms of local media. Very quiet now and doesn't seem to have been doing the press stuff after the pre season games either. Absolutely not in the know but something feels strange. I saw a post match interview after Melksham but he wasnt at the Eastleigh game
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 14:22:53 GMT
Absolutely agree with this. Don't know what is going on but something is off. Almost as if he is trying to slowly twist the screw until he gets sacked. I mean what is this new money making twitter nonsense all about? Hardly a good look when he is supposed to be this focused footie manager with his eyes on the prize. Odd. Note that even earlier in the summer there was more from him in terms of local media. Very quiet now and doesn't seem to have been doing the press stuff after the pre season games either. Absolutely not in the know but something feels strange. I saw a post match interview after Melksham but he wasnt at the Eastleigh game And correct me if I am wrong no words after the Cardiff game either? Like I said, I don't know anything and I could very well be totally wrong. But something does seem a bit odd.... And now this bizarre subscription twitter service.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 14, 2023 15:10:17 GMT
With Tucker - he's a journalist. Do you think any other media personality is different? I'll tell you what the difference is - Tucker admitted it, whilst the rest of the world seems to believe journalists have our best interests at hand 😅 Good points raised about the media establishment , being fed the party line. The parables of the Matrix aren't Tate's. Neither are they exclusive to the film. The philosopher Jean Baudrillard wrote Simulacra and Simulation in 1981. Another good point in that interview is about Weak Men. What happened to Philip Schofield? He went into hiding. Huw Edwards? He tried to top himself and has been sectioned. Weak men... Tate... Does a public interview and talks for 2.5 hours about his side. Even a judge and a jury have to listen to the accused despite their reservations. And I guess ultimately this will all come out in the wash. It could be argued that Tate and Carlson aren't an insight into their own psyches, but raise concerns over the psyche of society and the direction of morals, principles and sociological developments. Which, in of itself, are quite interesting even if the content is contrasting enough to make you think about it. Come on Westy. Tucker Carlson was integral in spreading a false narrative on the last Presidential election. A narrative that led to violence on Capital Hill and people died. You cannot condone that surely, you cannot find that "interesting" without being repulsed, can you? Tbf Oldie The BBC have a statue depicting a naked child created by a known paedophile outside it's HQ while also covering up historic sexual abuse by monsters on the pay role like Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall etc. Doesn't seem to stop people viewing or posting BBC content does it? How far do we go? As I've said previously, it does seem like a witch hunt from the people who dislike Joey Barton.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 14, 2023 17:05:21 GMT
I don't blame Barton for not doing all the media stuff. Why should he really. Everything the bloke says gets twisted and turned into something negative.
Nothing to suggest he is off anywhere either.
Only thing I'm concerned about is that we probably need to make a few more signings before the start of the season.
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Post by perryfenwick on Jul 14, 2023 17:11:10 GMT
Come on Westy. Tucker Carlson was integral in spreading a false narrative on the last Presidential election. A narrative that led to violence on Capital Hill and people died. You cannot condone that surely, you cannot find that "interesting" without being repulsed, can you? Tbf Oldie The BBC have a statue depicting a naked child created by a known paedophile outside it's HQ while also covering up historic sexual abuse by monsters on the pay role like Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall etc. Doesn't seem to stop people viewing or posting BBC content does it? How far do we go? As I've said previously, it does seem like a witch hunt from the people who dislike Joey Barton. To be fair to the BBC, I think they've been told that the building is listed and they can't take it down. Any organisation with tens of thousands of employees over a 100 year period will have some scumbags, but the key question is what do they do with them? At least they suspended a bloke this week at the very allegation of criminality - they didn't hire him while he awaited trial and I'm sure they won't put out a mealy mouthed statement if said bloke does get convicted. As for the Witch Hunt - that's just funny. If this geezer wasn't our manager you wouldn't like him. Plus for a Witch hunt to be a thing you need a chance of the Witch being hunted - Wael wouldn't sack Barton for anything so maybe, just maybe, people don't like Joseph because he's a dreadful person?
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Post by perryfenwick on Jul 14, 2023 17:18:50 GMT
Hate it when the media put a negative spin on such normal behaviour as: my abuse of refs, random obsession with coaches from when I was a kid, unprofessional drivel about other teams, and holocaust references.
Bloody snowflakes. Obviously the true Rovers fans will pay me a fiver a month for my wisdom.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 14, 2023 17:25:57 GMT
Tbf Oldie The BBC have a statue depicting a naked child created by a known paedophile outside it's HQ while also covering up historic sexual abuse by monsters on the pay role like Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall etc. Doesn't seem to stop people viewing or posting BBC content does it? How far do we go? As I've said previously, it does seem like a witch hunt from the people who dislike Joey Barton. To be fair to the BBC, I think they've been told that the building is listed and they can't take it down. Any organisation with tens of thousands of employees over a 100 year period will have some scumbags, but the key question is what do they do with them? At least they suspended a bloke this week at the very allegation of criminality - they didn't hire him while he awaited trial and I'm sure they won't put out a mealy mouthed statement if said bloke does get convicted. As for the Witch Hunt - that's just funny. If this geezer wasn't our manager you wouldn't like him. Plus for a Witch hunt to be a thing you need a chance of the Witch being hunted - Wael wouldn't sack Barton for anything so maybe, just maybe, people don't like Joseph because he's a dreadful person? I haven't said whether I like, or dislike Joey Barton. I just don't feel the need to vilify him at every opportunity, especially over such trivial and tenuous Twitter posts.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2023 17:38:05 GMT
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 14, 2023 17:40:44 GMT
To be fair to the BBC, I think they've been told that the building is listed and they can't take it down. Any organisation with tens of thousands of employees over a 100 year period will have some scumbags, but the key question is what do they do with them? At least they suspended a bloke this week at the very allegation of criminality - they didn't hire him while he awaited trial and I'm sure they won't put out a mealy mouthed statement if said bloke does get convicted. As for the Witch Hunt - that's just funny. If this geezer wasn't our manager you wouldn't like him. Plus for a Witch hunt to be a thing you need a chance of the Witch being hunted - Wael wouldn't sack Barton for anything so maybe, just maybe, people don't like Joseph because he's a dreadful person? I haven't said whether I like, or dislike Joey Barton. I just don't feel the need to vilify him at every opportunity , especially over such trivial and tenuous Twitter posts.I guess that depends on whether encouraging his followers to read the nonsense that Carlsoon and Tate come out with is seen as trivial or not?
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Post by perryfenwick on Jul 14, 2023 17:47:38 GMT
To be fair to the BBC, I think they've been told that the building is listed and they can't take it down. Any organisation with tens of thousands of employees over a 100 year period will have some scumbags, but the key question is what do they do with them? At least they suspended a bloke this week at the very allegation of criminality - they didn't hire him while he awaited trial and I'm sure they won't put out a mealy mouthed statement if said bloke does get convicted. As for the Witch Hunt - that's just funny. If this geezer wasn't our manager you wouldn't like him. Plus for a Witch hunt to be a thing you need a chance of the Witch being hunted - Wael wouldn't sack Barton for anything so maybe, just maybe, people don't like Joseph because he's a dreadful person? I haven't said whether I like, or dislike Joey Barton. I just don't feel the need to vilify him at every opportunity, especially over such trivial and tenuous Twitter posts. If he wasn't our manager then you definitely wouldn't - nobody else does, same for all the clubs he's been at. I don't think a manager of a football club, who young men look up to, referring to a woman beating rapist as 'interesting' is trivial tbh. The generation of lads that are into this Tate bloke are the exact generation who, at BRFC, love Barton most (second place is the 50+ ex GHS blokes who read those cringe hooligan books).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2023 17:50:03 GMT
Seeming the owner has pretty much allowed the bloke to do anything he likes when he likes since he’s walked through the door, why would you think that he’s going to draw the line at a subscription service on Twitter ? 😂
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 14, 2023 17:50:25 GMT
I haven't said whether I like, or dislike Joey Barton. I just don't feel the need to vilify him at every opportunity, especially over such trivial and tenuous Twitter posts. If he wasn't our manager then you definitely wouldn't - nobody else does, same for all the clubs he's been at. I don't think a manager of a football club, who young men look up to, referring to a woman beating rapist as 'interesting' is trivial tbh. The generation of lads that are into this Tate bloke are the exact generation who, at BRFC, love Barton most (second place is the 50+ ex GHS blokes who read those cringe hooligan books). It's very much trivial and indeed tenuous. Very much like posters making sweeping generalisations on Football forums.
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Post by orgasmic on Jul 14, 2023 17:52:49 GMT
I haven't said whether I like, or dislike Joey Barton. I just don't feel the need to vilify him at every opportunity, especially over such trivial and tenuous Twitter posts. If he wasn't our manager then you definitely wouldn't - nobody else does, same for all the clubs he's been at. I don't think a manager of a football club, who young men look up to, referring to a woman beating rapist as 'interesting' is trivial tbh. The generation of lads that are into this Tate bloke are the exact generation who, at BRFC, love Barton most (second place is the 50+ ex GHS blokes who read those cringe hooligan books). You should probably insert the word alleged in your claims. Particularly as Tate has denied all allegations, plans to continue to deny them and is therefore an innocent man.
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Post by perryfenwick on Jul 14, 2023 17:59:53 GMT
If he wasn't our manager then you definitely wouldn't - nobody else does, same for all the clubs he's been at. I don't think a manager of a football club, who young men look up to, referring to a woman beating rapist as 'interesting' is trivial tbh. The generation of lads that are into this Tate bloke are the exact generation who, at BRFC, love Barton most (second place is the 50+ ex GHS blokes who read those cringe hooligan books). You should probably insert the word alleged in your claims. Particularly as Tate has denied all allegations, plans to continue to deny them and is therefore an innocent man. I'll take my chances on the bloke getting off, then encountering Gaschat, to be honest. And even if he did, there's video footage of him smacking a woman (something he covered up with a statement from her saying it was consensual) and who is directly quoted as saying he's moved to Romania because its harder to get convicted of rape over there, so I don't think my post defamed his character in any way really. Mind you. There's every chance he'll read this one day because the manager will probably sign him to play right wing at some point.
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Post by perryfenwick on Jul 14, 2023 18:01:05 GMT
If he wasn't our manager then you definitely wouldn't - nobody else does, same for all the clubs he's been at. I don't think a manager of a football club, who young men look up to, referring to a woman beating rapist as 'interesting' is trivial tbh. The generation of lads that are into this Tate bloke are the exact generation who, at BRFC, love Barton most (second place is the 50+ ex GHS blokes who read those cringe hooligan books). It's very much trivial and indeed tenuous. Very much like posters making sweeping generalisations on Football forums. In your view. Not in others. And you don't need to be conducting a witch hunt to look at a spade and see a shovel.
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