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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2023 20:44:22 GMT
I like him ! I’m not a nasty person 🤔🤔🤔x💙utg Andrew Tate You like him? |
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Post by percy on Jul 15, 2023 20:53:04 GMT
Those on the Joey side of the debate seem to only ever take comfort in the “fact” it’s just a bunch of Joey haters making hay.
I don’t hate him. I think he has so much potential. I actually think he is a lovely guy (just watch him interact with young fans! )
Which is why I am so frustrated when he lets the worst of him be the loudest part.
Cheer up gasheads. Not long now. New season coming.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2023 21:02:12 GMT
I like him ! I’m not a nasty person 🤔🤔🤔x💙utg Andrew Tate You like him? 🤔actually oldie some of the things he says I agree with, not all by a long stretch, but some I do. make of that what you will 🤐🤣 💙utg |
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Post by Westy on Jul 15, 2023 22:08:07 GMT
🤔actually oldie some of the things he says I agree with, not all by a long stretch, but some I do. make of that what you will 🤐🤣 💙utg It's funny isn't it - the people who have actually listened to Tate, have a very different opinion of him than the people who haven't listened to him. Who'd have thunk it! |
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Post by gasheadontour on Jul 15, 2023 22:14:10 GMT
A woman told me she had made false allegations about her ex. She said she later felt guilty about doing so. I also met a social worker who told me she felt ashamed as so many people make false allegations. It made me realise there are some people who are willing to do and say anything. Therefore I try not to jump to conclusions.
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Post by wider on Jul 15, 2023 22:18:29 GMT
There seems to be an awful lot of opinions on here based on supposition and guesswork.
The trouble is that JB himself leaves a lot hanging at times and people have to ‘suppose’ or ‘guess’ what he means or even what he was thinking.
Having met him briefly I was surprised how pleasant and thoughtful he seemed. Offered to make me a cup of tea before remembering his position and delegating. Like most people he is probably complex and changes under different influences.
I felt he did an amazing job of keeping it all together to get us promotion from League 2 amidst two court cases and other controversy.
I’d prefer he didn’t say quite as much about non football things but it’s a free country. I grew up in a rough part of South Bristol and most of my schoolmates ended up in prison by the age of 21. Another mate and I got scholarships because of a fantastic teacher we had and escaped that life. JB did it via football.
It would possibly be better for us all, including JB, if he thought for a moment before saying or posting some/many things but that wouldn’t be him. His quick fire wit is important to who he is (I think). Hopefully he is still working on recruiting a couple more decent players and get us further up the league this coming season. UTG!
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2023 22:28:30 GMT
🤔actually oldie some of the things he says I agree with, not all by a long stretch, but some I do. make of that what you will 🤐🤣 💙utg It's funny isn't it - the people who have actually listened to Tate, have a very different opinion of him than the people who haven't listened to him. Who'd have thunk it! Definitely westy ! 👍 💙Utg |
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2023 23:32:53 GMT
It's funny isn't it - the people who have actually listened to Tate, have a very different opinion of him than the people who haven't listened to him. Who'd have thunk it! Definitely westy ! 👍 💙Utg Just, wow!, Purdown. Each to their own but I guess that explains your unwavering defence of Barton. |
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Barton
Jul 15, 2023 23:45:09 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2023 23:45:09 GMT
There seems to be an awful lot of opinions on here based on supposition and guesswork. The trouble is that JB himself leaves a lot hanging at times and people have to ‘suppose’ or ‘guess’ what he means or even what he was thinking. Having met him briefly I was surprised how pleasant and thoughtful he seemed. Offered to make me a cup of tea before remembering his position and delegating. Like most people he is probably complex and changes under different influences. I felt he did an amazing job of keeping it all together to get us promotion from League 2 amidst two court cases and other controversy. I’d prefer he didn’t say quite as much about non football things but it’s a free country. I grew up in a rough part of South Bristol and most of my schoolmates ended up in prison by the age of 21. Another mate and I got scholarships because of a fantastic teacher we had and escaped that life. JB did it via football. It would possibly be better for us all, including JB, if he thought for a moment before saying or posting some/many things but that wouldn’t be him. His quick fire wit is important to who he is (I think). Hopefully he is still working on recruiting a couple more decent players and get us further up the league this coming season. UTG! Which part? Of South Bristol? |
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2023 23:53:57 GMT
The racist comment wasn’t mentioned in court, but in your world you can slap a women if she calls you basically anything. Surely even if a women called you the most horrific thing in the world, you don’t raise your hands to a female? PLEASE ANSWER THIS If we all go around in this world calling people C U next Tuesday’s who get things wrong, society is going to break down. People make mistakes, so do referees. Social Media, I agree with you, it’s rubbish but in the past you’d maybe get drunk and shout your opinion in the pub, and in a lot of cases you’d be told to shut up. He is out of control on Twitter, he won’t get a job after us, he’s unemployable mentioning what he does, sponsors with the big teams won’t put up with it. If he’s such a good manager, why have the FGR and Exeter managers gone up levels since we all got promotion on lesser budgets? It’s because he’s a gob sh**e, terrible reputation and bang average manager. A bitch slap to someone acting like a bitch. That's the way I see it. There's a fine line when violence is involved, especially when emotions are high. It's not like he decked her and dragged her up and down the high street. Defending himself from having his hair pulled - even a push *could* have resulted in much worse physical injury, which at the same time I'm sure we could all agree it's ok to push a woman off of us if she is attacking us. On the balance of things, a slap, over a push, over a punch... Is probably the closest to that blurry line or acceptable. For the record, I've been in a physically abusive relationship with a woman. A lot of reflection goes on in my head that I wished I had sometimes at least tried to push her off of me but I didn't stand up for myself and have had to take multiple days off of work on multiple occasions whilst a black eye or cuts on my face have healed. Not many of us have actually been attacked by a woman. So it's easy for people to say "never hit a woman", and yes, that is my principles, and that has been my action (or lack of reaction) in such a circumstance. It's difficult to articulate such a complex issue, but ultimately, yes - I think a woman attacking a man can expect a slap. But I would feel different if it was a punch or full on attack. As for the referee moment. I say what's on my mind and call things how they are. In a competitive game with high passions and a load of testosterone floating around, some people might get called names. Suck it up buttercup or maybe that referee would be better off judging village flower competitions. I do agree that Barton should reign it in a bit, because as someone mentioned back in this thread, it seems every few months we have another Joey Moment™ to divide the fans and cause a tiny little wave of uproar. However... That really goes against my own principles of free speech and allowing people to be, say and do whatever the hell they like outside of work. Yes, I know, he's associated with us. But it's not as if he's parading around Berlin waving a swastika and geeing up the populous to have a crack at a fourth Reich is it? He posted a video of people who some people dislike. And yes, I know, Andrew Tate blah blah blah. Even I am self censoring here because I've heard and listened to A LOT of this guy, purely out of wondering what the hell the hubbub was about. I haven't heard anything that's particularly worrying. Even the things you think you've heard, "he's sexist because he said X, he's a chauvinistic pig becuyhe said Y". Well, I went and watched the whole episodes & podcasts of each particular mention he's had in the mainstream media, and seeing it first hand how his words have been taken wholly out of context and twisted against him to portray him as the person you think he is, is particularly worrying. This has only fueled my own mistrust of journalists and the media, which makes me laugh even more when people deride Tucker. Finally, re why have FGR gone up levels etc.. I'd say it's down to Bristol being the second most expensive city in the country, which footballers aren't going to want to triple their rent or mortgage payments moving here, coupled with having a falling down stadium (as much as I love the mem for all its faults and character), and from an outside perspective, a yo-yoing club who don't seem to ever spend any money on any players, probably doesn't seem like such an attractive place to be. I actually wasted a minute of my life reading this. But, at the end, it was worth it for the pure comedic value of this statement "This has only fueled my own mistrust of journalists and the media, which makes me laugh even more when people deride Tucker" You what😂😂😂 |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 1:08:53 GMT
The racist comment wasn’t mentioned in court, but in your world you can slap a women if she calls you basically anything. Surely even if a women called you the most horrific thing in the world, you don’t raise your hands to a female? PLEASE ANSWER THIS If we all go around in this world calling people C U next Tuesday’s who get things wrong, society is going to break down. People make mistakes, so do referees. Social Media, I agree with you, it’s rubbish but in the past you’d maybe get drunk and shout your opinion in the pub, and in a lot of cases you’d be told to shut up. He is out of control on Twitter, he won’t get a job after us, he’s unemployable mentioning what he does, sponsors with the big teams won’t put up with it. If he’s such a good manager, why have the FGR and Exeter managers gone up levels since we all got promotion on lesser budgets? It’s because he’s a gob sh**e, terrible reputation and bang average manager. A bitch slap to someone acting like a bitch. That's the way I see it. There's a fine line when violence is involved, especially when emotions are high. It's not like he decked her and dragged her up and down the high street. Defending himself from having his hair pulled - even a push *could* have resulted in much worse physical injury, which at the same time I'm sure we could all agree it's ok to push a woman off of us if she is attacking us. On the balance of things, a slap, over a push, over a punch... Is probably the closest to that blurry line or acceptable. For the record, I've been in a physically abusive relationship with a woman. A lot of reflection goes on in my head that I wished I had sometimes at least tried to push her off of me but I didn't stand up for myself and have had to take multiple days off of work on multiple occasions whilst a black eye or cuts on my face have healed. Not many of us have actually been attacked by a woman. So it's easy for people to say "never hit a woman", and yes, that is my principles, and that has been my action (or lack of reaction) in such a circumstance. It's difficult to articulate such a complex issue, but ultimately, yes - I think a woman attacking a man can expect a slap. But I would feel different if it was a punch or full on attack. As for the referee moment. I say what's on my mind and call things how they are. In a competitive game with high passions and a load of testosterone floating around, some people might get called names. Suck it up buttercup or maybe that referee would be better off judging village flower competitions. I do agree that Barton should reign it in a bit, because as someone mentioned back in this thread, it seems every few months we have another Joey Moment™ to divide the fans and cause a tiny little wave of uproar. However... That really goes against my own principles of free speech and allowing people to be, say and do whatever the hell they like outside of work. Yes, I know, he's associated with us. But it's not as if he's parading around Berlin waving a swastika and geeing up the populous to have a crack at a fourth Reich is it? He posted a video of people who some people dislike. And yes, I know, Andrew Tate blah blah blah. Even I am self censoring here because I've heard and listened to A LOT of this guy, purely out of wondering what the hell the hubbub was about. I haven't heard anything that's particularly worrying. Even the things you think you've heard, "he's sexist because he said X, he's a chauvinistic pig becuyhe said Y". Well, I went and watched the whole episodes & podcasts of each particular mention he's had in the mainstream media, and seeing it first hand how his words have been taken wholly out of context and twisted against him to portray him as the person you think he is, is particularly worrying. This has only fueled my own mistrust of journalists and the media, which makes me laugh even more when people deride Tucker. Finally, re why have FGR gone up levels etc.. I'd say it's down to Bristol being the second most expensive city in the country, which footballers aren't going to want to triple their rent or mortgage payments moving here, coupled with having a falling down stadium (as much as I love the mem for all its faults and character), and from an outside perspective, a yo-yoing club who don't seem to ever spend any money on any players, probably doesn't seem like such an attractive place to be. If you had a sister and someone slapped her then I think you would react. As for the rest ? Maybe I will come back to it. It’s early morning and I can’t sleep so putting this down, for now |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 16, 2023 7:15:28 GMT
The racist comment wasn’t mentioned in court, but in your world you can slap a women if she calls you basically anything. Surely even if a women called you the most horrific thing in the world, you don’t raise your hands to a female? PLEASE ANSWER THIS If we all go around in this world calling people C U next Tuesday’s who get things wrong, society is going to break down. People make mistakes, so do referees. Social Media, I agree with you, it’s rubbish but in the past you’d maybe get drunk and shout your opinion in the pub, and in a lot of cases you’d be told to shut up. He is out of control on Twitter, he won’t get a job after us, he’s unemployable mentioning what he does, sponsors with the big teams won’t put up with it. If he’s such a good manager, why have the FGR and Exeter managers gone up levels since we all got promotion on lesser budgets? It’s because he’s a gob sh**e, terrible reputation and bang average manager. A bitch slap to someone acting like a bitch. That's the way I see it. There's a fine line when violence is involved, especially when emotions are high. It's not like he decked her and dragged her up and down the high street. Defending himself from having his hair pulled - even a push *could* have resulted in much worse physical injury, which at the same time I'm sure we could all agree it's ok to push a woman off of us if she is attacking us. On the balance of things, a slap, over a push, over a punch... Is probably the closest to that blurry line or acceptable. For the record, I've been in a physically abusive relationship with a woman. A lot of reflection goes on in my head that I wished I had sometimes at least tried to push her off of me but I didn't stand up for myself and have had to take multiple days off of work on multiple occasions whilst a black eye or cuts on my face have healed. Not many of us have actually been attacked by a woman. So it's easy for people to say "never hit a woman", and yes, that is my principles, and that has been my action (or lack of reaction) in such a circumstance. It's difficult to articulate such a complex issue, but ultimately, yes - I think a woman attacking a man can expect a slap. But I would feel different if it was a punch or full on attack. As for the referee moment. I say what's on my mind and call things how they are. In a competitive game with high passions and a load of testosterone floating around, some people might get called names. Suck it up buttercup or maybe that referee would be better off judging village flower competitions. I do agree that Barton should reign it in a bit, because as someone mentioned back in this thread, it seems every few months we have another Joey Moment™ to divide the fans and cause a tiny little wave of uproar. However... That really goes against my own principles of free speech and allowing people to be, say and do whatever the hell they like outside of work. Yes, I know, he's associated with us. But it's not as if he's parading around Berlin waving a swastika and geeing up the populous to have a crack at a fourth Reich is it? He posted a video of people who some people dislike. And yes, I know, Andrew Tate blah blah blah. Even I am self censoring here because I've heard and listened to A LOT of this guy, purely out of wondering what the hell the hubbub was about. I haven't heard anything that's particularly worrying. Even the things you think you've heard, "he's sexist because he said X, he's a chauvinistic pig becuyhe said Y". Well, I went and watched the whole episodes & podcasts of each particular mention he's had in the mainstream media, and seeing it first hand how his words have been taken wholly out of context and twisted against him to portray him as the person you think he is, is particularly worrying. This has only fueled my own mistrust of journalists and the media, which makes me laugh even more when people deride Tucker. Finally, re why have FGR gone up levels etc.. I'd say it's down to Bristol being the second most expensive city in the country, which footballers aren't going to want to triple their rent or mortgage payments moving here, coupled with having a falling down stadium (as much as I love the mem for all its faults and character), and from an outside perspective, a yo-yoing club who don't seem to ever spend any money on any players, probably doesn't seem like such an attractive place to be. I too was once engaged to a girl who used to fly into a rage and hit, punch and kick out, sometimes from the blind side and I’ll admit, some of it hurt. I understand your feelings of how it makes you feel too because it does make you feel weak, a pushover as well as a dented ego because as blokes we are brought up not to instigate or retaliate violence on a woman. I can honestly say I never raised my hands back, I never needed to. The one and only time I was physical back was in complete self preservation of her coming at me with a kitchen knife, of which I still bear the scar on my hand for today, but I was able to easily overpower her because I’m simply stronger and I didn’t need to throw hands to do so. So I just don’t buy it when blokes use the line of some minor nature of any kind as an excuse for lashing out at a woman, especially when being drunk. There’s nothing worse than that. On your point of free speech, of course we have it, but again there are lines that you don’t cross with speech simply because you can bring a club/organisation/business into disrepute with free speech which might cause serious harm going forward. Just ask Glenn Hoddle. Andrew Tate isn’t hated because the matrix he speaks of doesn’t like him. It’s because he promotes a line of behaviour that isn’t acceptable. I’ve been in the car for over 13 hours this week travelling for work this week and I listened to the interview earlier as well as some of his other videos whilst driving. The interview is the calmest and most rational he’s ever sounded, so he’s creating his own PR spin there as a form of defence, and yes, one or two things he said sounded sensible. But some of the content he’s produced over the years is the polar opposite of that and I wouldn’t want my own son listening to as a guide for his life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 7:42:33 GMT
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consequence
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 16, 2023 9:04:42 GMT
There seems to be an awful lot of opinions on here based on supposition and guesswork. The trouble is that JB himself leaves a lot hanging at times and people have to ‘suppose’ or ‘guess’ what he means or even what he was thinking. Having met him briefly I was surprised how pleasant and thoughtful he seemed. Offered to make me a cup of tea before remembering his position and delegating. Like most people he is probably complex and changes under different influences. I felt he did an amazing job of keeping it all together to get us promotion from League 2 amidst two court cases and other controversy. I’d prefer he didn’t say quite as much about non football things but it’s a free country. I grew up in a rough part of South Bristol and most of my schoolmates ended up in prison by the age of 21. Another mate and I got scholarships because of a fantastic teacher we had and escaped that life. JB did it via football. It would possibly be better for us all, including JB, if he thought for a moment before saying or posting some/many things but that wouldn’t be him. His quick fire wit is important to who he is (I think). Hopefully he is still working on recruiting a couple more decent players and get us further up the league this coming season. UTG! Good post. Very true. People’s behaviours are influenced heavily by the environment they are in and most people learn how to differ their behaviour accordingly. UTG! |
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Post by Westy on Jul 16, 2023 9:41:22 GMT
A bitch slap to someone acting like a bitch. That's the way I see it. There's a fine line when violence is involved, especially when emotions are high. It's not like he decked her and dragged her up and down the high street. Defending himself from having his hair pulled - even a push *could* have resulted in much worse physical injury, which at the same time I'm sure we could all agree it's ok to push a woman off of us if she is attacking us. On the balance of things, a slap, over a push, over a punch... Is probably the closest to that blurry line or acceptable. For the record, I've been in a physically abusive relationship with a woman. A lot of reflection goes on in my head that I wished I had sometimes at least tried to push her off of me but I didn't stand up for myself and have had to take multiple days off of work on multiple occasions whilst a black eye or cuts on my face have healed. Not many of us have actually been attacked by a woman. So it's easy for people to say "never hit a woman", and yes, that is my principles, and that has been my action (or lack of reaction) in such a circumstance. It's difficult to articulate such a complex issue, but ultimately, yes - I think a woman attacking a man can expect a slap. But I would feel different if it was a punch or full on attack. As for the referee moment. I say what's on my mind and call things how they are. In a competitive game with high passions and a load of testosterone floating around, some people might get called names. Suck it up buttercup or maybe that referee would be better off judging village flower competitions. I do agree that Barton should reign it in a bit, because as someone mentioned back in this thread, it seems every few months we have another Joey Moment™ to divide the fans and cause a tiny little wave of uproar. However... That really goes against my own principles of free speech and allowing people to be, say and do whatever the hell they like outside of work. Yes, I know, he's associated with us. But it's not as if he's parading around Berlin waving a swastika and geeing up the populous to have a crack at a fourth Reich is it? He posted a video of people who some people dislike. And yes, I know, Andrew Tate blah blah blah. Even I am self censoring here because I've heard and listened to A LOT of this guy, purely out of wondering what the hell the hubbub was about. I haven't heard anything that's particularly worrying. Even the things you think you've heard, "he's sexist because he said X, he's a chauvinistic pig becuyhe said Y". Well, I went and watched the whole episodes & podcasts of each particular mention he's had in the mainstream media, and seeing it first hand how his words have been taken wholly out of context and twisted against him to portray him as the person you think he is, is particularly worrying. This has only fueled my own mistrust of journalists and the media, which makes me laugh even more when people deride Tucker. Finally, re why have FGR gone up levels etc.. I'd say it's down to Bristol being the second most expensive city in the country, which footballers aren't going to want to triple their rent or mortgage payments moving here, coupled with having a falling down stadium (as much as I love the mem for all its faults and character), and from an outside perspective, a yo-yoing club who don't seem to ever spend any money on any players, probably doesn't seem like such an attractive place to be. I too was once engaged to a girl who used to fly into a rage and hit, punch and kick out, sometimes from the blind side and I’ll admit, some of it hurt. I understand your feelings of how it makes you feel too because it does make you feel weak, a pushover as well as a dented ego because as blokes we are brought up not to instigate or retaliate violence on a woman. I can honestly say I never raised my hands back, I never needed to. The one and only time I was physical back was in complete self preservation of her coming at me with a kitchen knife, of which I still bear the scar on my hand for today, but I was able to easily overpower her because I’m simply stronger and I didn’t need to throw hands to do so. So I just don’t buy it when blokes use the line of some minor nature of any kind as an excuse for lashing out at a woman, especially when being drunk. There’s nothing worse than that. On your point of free speech, of course we have it, but again there are lines that you don’t cross with speech simply because you can bring a club/organisation/business into disrepute with free speech which might cause serious harm going forward. Just ask Glenn Hoddle. Andrew Tate isn’t hated because the matrix he speaks of doesn’t like him. It’s because he promotes a line of behaviour that isn’t acceptable. I’ve been in the car for over 13 hours this week travelling for work this week and I listened to the interview earlier as well as some of his other videos whilst driving. The interview is the calmest and most rational he’s ever sounded, so he’s creating his own PR spin there as a form of defence, and yes, one or two things he said sounded sensible. But some of the content he’s produced over the years is the polar opposite of that and I wouldn’t want my own son listening to as a guide for his life. Great points, and agree on very much what you say - and a lot of what people are saying counter to what I'm saying! For me, wisdom comes from many places and people, and I'm always happy to glean something for myself wherever I may find it. But I think I've said enough on this topic tbh. I wanna get back to the football and not be debating on here (cos I love a debate but hate doing it through words on a screen lol!!) |
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Post by gasify on Jul 16, 2023 9:50:00 GMT
Got to agree there - it’s gone beyond the mere clutching of pearls and is rapidly approaching hysteria. It’s not as though Barton is preaching “Andrew Tate is the Messiah!” from the rooftops, is it? As far as I can see, he just commented that he watched the interview with Carlson and found some of it “thought-provoking”. That could mean absolutely f* cking anything! I’ve watched documentaries about Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, John Wayne Gacy and Lee Harvey Oswald and found them interesting, thought-provoking and containing plenty of food for thought; that doesn’t make me a raving neo-Nazi, neo-Bolshevik, potential serial killer or would-be Presidential assassin . . . At no point have I seen that Barton has endorsed Tate’s behaviour, opinions or alleged crimes, or recorded a video saying “Andrew Tate’s great, mate. Be sure to do what he says, kids.” Or words to that effect. And while we’re here, why can’t he have other businesses running alongside being our manager? Most players do, especially the ones further up the pyramid. I don’t care how many pies he’s got his fingers in, as long as he manages the club and coaches the team effectively. And as for people getting the arses out because of the “down to my last £20 million” remark, all I can say is . . . Really? Your lives must so grim and humourless if that pushes your buttons. Last week JB tweeted Carlson's "was a breath of fresh air, now this week he's tweeting "interesting" etc about the Tate interview, it's not just one off the cuff tweet, he's clearly trying to encourage his Twitter followers, and therefore Rovers fans, to also follow Carlson on Twitter. The funny thing about Tucker Carlson is that he will say anything for a price. That's why he got sacked from Fox. He was being paid by Fox for the Pro Trump channel (and saying very pro Trump stuff) but then was recored saying that he hated Trump. So, any interview that he does now. You have to ask the question, "How much did the interviewee pay" That is what is interesting about the Andrew Tait interview. How much did Andrew Tait pay Tucker Carlson? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 9:53:50 GMT
There seems to be an awful lot of opinions on here based on supposition and guesswork. The trouble is that JB himself leaves a lot hanging at times and people have to ‘suppose’ or ‘guess’ what he means or even what he was thinking. Having met him briefly I was surprised how pleasant and thoughtful he seemed. Offered to make me a cup of tea before remembering his position and delegating. Like most people he is probably complex and changes under different influences. I felt he did an amazing job of keeping it all together to get us promotion from League 2 amidst two court cases and other controversy. I’d prefer he didn’t say quite as much about non football things but it’s a free country. I grew up in a rough part of South Bristol and most of my schoolmates ended up in prison by the age of 21. Another mate and I got scholarships because of a fantastic teacher we had and escaped that life. JB did it via football. It would possibly be better for us all, including JB, if he thought for a moment before saying or posting some/many things but that wouldn’t be him. His quick fire wit is important to who he is (I think). Hopefully he is still working on recruiting a couple more decent players and get us further up the league this coming season. UTG! Good post. Very true. People’s behaviours are influenced heavily by the environment they are in and most people learn how to differ their behaviour accordingly. UTG! He is a human Chamelion and , with consummate ease, adapts to his surrounding and people around him. Personally i do not enjoy this type of personality and i have met a few, you just cannot rely upon them to be stable or keep their word or, at least, that has been my experience |
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Post by phillistine on Jul 16, 2023 10:59:32 GMT
Good post. Very true. People’s behaviours are influenced heavily by the environment they are in and most people learn how to differ their behaviour accordingly. UTG! He is a human Chamelion and , with consummate ease, adapts to his surrounding and people around him. Personally i do not enjoy this type of personality and i have met a few, you just cannot rely upon them to be stable or keep their word or, at least, that has been my experience Barton has been used to being in football changing rooms ever since school and they seem full of laddish behaviour - you only have to look at someone like Grealish to see that in full flow. The fact that Barton is able to adapt according to his situation is good in that it makes others who meet him feel more comfortable if they can relate to him. The lad who mentioned the cup of tea above shows that in action. You cant criticise someone for that - its a skill that some people simply dont have . actually - sorry you can criticise him for that - as you obviously have |
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Jul 16, 2023 12:27:14 GMT
Post by warehamgas on Jul 16, 2023 12:27:14 GMT
Good post. Very true. People’s behaviours are influenced heavily by the environment they are in and most people learn how to differ their behaviour accordingly. UTG! He is a human Chamelion and , with consummate ease, adapts to his surrounding and people around him. Personally i do not enjoy this type of personality and i have met a few, you just cannot rely upon them to be stable or keep their word or, at least, that has been my experience Perhaps KP but my point was we are all able to differ our behaviours depending upon the environment we are in. And we all do. And most of us adapt to the norms expected in different situations. I’m sure JB does as well. Most do it and are able to maintain a level of stability. UTG! |
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Barton
Jul 16, 2023 14:46:51 GMT
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 14:46:51 GMT
He is a human Chamelion and , with consummate ease, adapts to his surrounding and people around him. Personally i do not enjoy this type of personality and i have met a few, you just cannot rely upon them to be stable or keep their word or, at least, that has been my experience Barton has been used to being in football changing rooms ever since school and they seem full of laddish behaviour - you only have to look at someone like Grealish to see that in full flow. The fact that Barton is able to adapt according to his situation is good in that it makes others who meet him feel more comfortable if they can relate to him. The lad who mentioned the cup of tea above shows that in action. You cant criticise someone for that - its a skill that some people simply dont have . actually - sorry you can criticise him for that - as you obviously have I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend |
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