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Post by yattongas on Aug 9, 2023 16:33:09 GMT
He’s obviously skint , no helicopter 🙄
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Post by baggins on Aug 9, 2023 16:36:07 GMT
He’s obviously skint , no helicopter 🙄 Unless he means we're on our way to my private jet?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 9, 2023 19:12:28 GMT
Blackpool, garner , anyone ? What does that even mean? Like it or not, we were not in the relegation places under Garner. Ultimately he was (rightly) sacked but we will never know if he'd have kept us up. If the best you have to throw at WAQ in terms of things he's got wrong is Garner then I'll take that as confirmation you are agreeing with me. Why would you think i was throwing anything at Wael ? I was just pointing out that he had made some mistakes is all and that this is only human. Ok, to clarify, by Blackpool, i meant he made the first statement about the fruit market and that started of a thread that, i think, is still going and by Garner, i meant that he changed tack completely and we were supposed to then be a club that was going to concentrate on bringing in young players, getting them to a decent level and to sell them on. The only point i was trying to make was that some mistakes were made and one of them ended up with us being relegated. Everyone makes mistakes and Wael is no exception Hugo, that is all i was trying to say. The only malice is in the mind of the reader. I hope that clarifies this for you.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 9, 2023 19:15:54 GMT
Typical bloody remainer, they give it the big un on trade when it’s always having to get a visa and their loss of kudos when chomping on onions smoking thin cigarettes at cafes with their amis! You forgot clandestine night time interactions with slender Men in White tops with Navy Blue stripes. Ohh La La! A la YSL
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 9, 2023 20:31:14 GMT
Typical bloody remainer, they give it the big un on trade when it’s always having to get a visa and their loss of kudos when chomping on onions smoking thin cigarettes at cafes with their amis! Just here on a mission to show the French we’re not all knuckle dragging Gammons who were stupid enough to vote to make ourselves poorer 🙄🇬🇧 Francophilia has long been accepted as signifier of higher social status since the Normans became the rulers of the Anglo Saxons a millennia ago and these cultural relics die hard. French was spoken in the homes of our better fed, better educated and more powerful rules and these remain to this day as a strong signifier of social class, much as the Germanic pleasure of beer remains as a signifier of the conquered. You will still find cultural ties to the continent, the veneration of French cultural practices and even the ability to speak French as very highly valued within the homes and communities of the wealthy of today. Or adopted as a surrogate for those wishing to ape it. Nothing changes much it seems.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 9, 2023 20:49:32 GMT
Just here on a mission to show the French we’re not all knuckle dragging Gammons who were stupid enough to vote to make ourselves poorer 🙄🇬🇧 Francophilia has long been accepted as signifier of higher social status since the Normans became the rulers of the Anglo Saxons a millennia ago and these cultural relics die hard. French was spoken in the homes of our better fed, better educated and more powerful rules and these remain to this day as a strong signifier of social class, much as the Germanic pleasure of beer remains as a signifier of the conquered. You will still find cultural ties to the continent, the veneration of French cultural practices and even the ability to speak French as very highly valued within the homes and communities of the wealthy of today. Or adopted as a surrogate for those wishing to ape it. Nothing changes much it seems. That may well be so but you’re still a knob for voting for Brexit .
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 0:12:14 GMT
Just here on a mission to show the French we’re not all knuckle dragging Gammons who were stupid enough to vote to make ourselves poorer 🙄🇬🇧 Francophilia has long been accepted as signifier of higher social status since the Normans became the rulers of the Anglo Saxons a millennia ago and these cultural relics die hard. French was spoken in the homes of our better fed, better educated and more powerful rules and these remain to this day as a strong signifier of social class, much as the Germanic pleasure of beer remains as a signifier of the conquered. You will still find cultural ties to the continent, the veneration of French cultural practices and even the ability to speak French as very highly valued within the homes and communities of the wealthy of today. Or adopted as a surrogate for those wishing to ape it. Nothing changes much it seems. It is still, very much, used by the most well off and better educated Poles. I remember my father speaking it , fluently. I was always stunned when he would just start speaking French whenever we would visit Normandy for the yearly commemoration of the Normandy landings and it was probably why i then took an interest in it although i would be nowhere near the fluency level of my father, may his soul rest in peace. If you know your history, as you obviously do, then many blamed the Polish government and it’s more important politicians for not keeping their eye on what the Germans were doing as they were too busy and more interested in having a good time in France
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 0:18:25 GMT
Was hoping the Post would do a follow-up story and flesh out more details. What is the background of the investors, their net worth, what level of investment are they prepared to put in and their ambitions? I wonder what assurances have been given considering "there have also been offers from America and a consortium containing local businessmen but Wael Al-Qadi’s desire to retain a position of influence and control, coupled with his own scepticism of what’s being offered, has caused talks to break down"? I wonder if this family were one of the "offers from America"? 'The logistics firm's gross revenue last year was listed by the Transport Topics website in December 2022 as $414m, with net revenue $85m.' It was mentioned that the American consortium went onto buy CUFC so i think, yes it is
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 10, 2023 4:42:06 GMT
Francophilia has long been accepted as signifier of higher social status since the Normans became the rulers of the Anglo Saxons a millennia ago and these cultural relics die hard. French was spoken in the homes of our better fed, better educated and more powerful rules and these remain to this day as a strong signifier of social class, much as the Germanic pleasure of beer remains as a signifier of the conquered. You will still find cultural ties to the continent, the veneration of French cultural practices and even the ability to speak French as very highly valued within the homes and communities of the wealthy of today. Or adopted as a surrogate for those wishing to ape it. Nothing changes much it seems. It is still, very much, used by the most well off and better educated Poles. I remember my father speaking it , fluently.  I was always stunned when he would just start speaking French whenever we would visit Normandy for the yearly commemoration of the Normandy landings and it was probably why i then took an interest in it although i would be nowhere near the fluency level of my father, may his soul rest in peace. If you know your history, as you obviously do, then many blamed the Polish government and it’s more important politicians for not keeping their eye on what the Germans were doing as they were too busy and more interested in having a good time in France So it’s a component of bourgeois culture even in Poland! Paris was very much the Dubai of post renaissance Europe so it’s no surprise leaderships of European countries wanted to live it up in Paris. Personally I’ve always preferred southern European cuisine and culture. Given the class associations I’ve always been thoroughly turned off by France in general as I associate it with pretentious middle class people waffling on about grape varieties. Although France has provided the world some pretty incredible things and people, the modern republic, Voltaire etc…
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 10, 2023 6:43:56 GMT
What does that even mean? Like it or not, we were not in the relegation places under Garner. Ultimately he was (rightly) sacked but we will never know if he'd have kept us up. If the best you have to throw at WAQ in terms of things he's got wrong is Garner then I'll take that as confirmation you are agreeing with me. Why would you think i was throwing anything at Wael ? I was just pointing out that he had made some mistakes is all and that this is only human. Ok, to clarify, by Blackpool, i meant he made the first statement about the fruit market and that started of a thread that, i think, is still going and by Garner, i meant that he changed tack completely and we were supposed to then be a club that was going to concentrate on bringing in young players, getting them to a decent level and to sell them on. The only point i was trying to make was that some mistakes were made and one of them ended up with us being relegated. Everyone makes mistakes and Wael is no exception Hugo, that is all i was trying to say. The only malice is in the mind of the reader. I hope that clarifies this for you. No malice in the mind of this reader, thanks for the clarification. I'm sure you could understand my initial doubt since you have often seemed at odds with the current owner and the things he has tried to achieve, perhaps influenced by others with a far more negative view of him than your own. Regardless, my point stands that by and large WAQ has steadied the ship, propped the club up and in The Quarters has made the most considerable contribution to Rovers since our return to the Mem. I stand corrected if my post inferred that he has not made any mistakes along the way, but to me they are minor when weighed against the positives.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 8:44:05 GMT
Why would you think i was throwing anything at Wael ? I was just pointing out that he had made some mistakes is all and that this is only human. Ok, to clarify, by Blackpool, i meant he made the first statement about the fruit market and that started of a thread that, i think, is still going and by Garner, i meant that he changed tack completely and we were supposed to then be a club that was going to concentrate on bringing in young players, getting them to a decent level and to sell them on. The only point i was trying to make was that some mistakes were made and one of them ended up with us being relegated. Everyone makes mistakes and Wael is no exception Hugo, that is all i was trying to say. The only malice is in the mind of the reader. I hope that clarifies this for you. No malice in the mind of this reader, thanks for the clarification. I'm sure you could understand my initial doubt since you have often seemed at odds with the current owner and the things he has tried to achieve, perhaps influenced by others with a far more negative view of him than your own. Regardless, my point stands that by and large WAQ has steadied the ship, propped the club up and in The Quarters has made the most considerable contribution to Rovers since our return to the Mem. I stand corrected if my post inferred that he has not made any mistakes along the way, but to me they are minor when weighed against the positives. Fair enough Hugo, probably six of one and half and half a dozen of the other, no harm done.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 8:49:58 GMT
It is still, very much, used by the most well off and better educated Poles. I remember my father speaking it , fluently. I was always stunned when he would just start speaking French whenever we would visit Normandy for the yearly commemoration of the Normandy landings and it was probably why i then took an interest in it although i would be nowhere near the fluency level of my father, may his soul rest in peace. If you know your history, as you obviously do, then many blamed the Polish government and it’s more important politicians for not keeping their eye on what the Germans were doing as they were too busy and more interested in having a good time in France So it’s a component of bourgeois culture even in Poland! Paris was very much the Dubai of post renaissance Europe so it’s no surprise leaderships of European countries wanted to live it up in Paris. Personally I’ve always preferred southern European cuisine and culture. Given the class associations I’ve always been thoroughly turned off by France in general as I associate it with pretentious middle class people waffling on about grape varieties. Although France has provided the world some pretty incredible things and people, the modern republic, Voltaire etc… I can’t say that i know enough of France to pass any judgment or comment. I have only ever been to see Pink Floyd in Paris and my abiding memory was that Parisians were a miserable lot and it was very expensive plus i found it extremely difficult to engage anyone in conversation but, on the flip side of that, i used to go to Normandy with my father, to the yearly commemoration of the D day landings and it was the polar opposite and we could hardly ever pay for a drink or a meal. It is not somewhere that i would consider moving to but, as i say, i have limited experience of the country.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 10, 2023 9:07:39 GMT
So it’s a component of bourgeois culture even in Poland! Paris was very much the Dubai of post renaissance Europe so it’s no surprise leaderships of European countries wanted to live it up in Paris. Personally I’ve always preferred southern European cuisine and culture. Given the class associations I’ve always been thoroughly turned off by France in general as I associate it with pretentious middle class people waffling on about grape varieties. Although France has provided the world some pretty incredible things and people, the modern republic, Voltaire etc… I can’t say that i know enough of France to pass any judgment or comment. I habve only ever been to see Pink Floyd in Paris and my abiding memory was that Parisians were a miserable lot and it was very expensive plus i found it extremely difficult to engage anyone in conversation but, on the flip side of that, i used to go to Normandy with my father, to the yearly commemoration of the D day landings and it was the polar opposite and we could hardly ever pay for a drink or a meal. It is not somewhere that i woulkd consider moving to but, as i say, i habve limited experience of the country. Similar with my experience, I would differentiate between Paris and France. I suspect this is something associated with large capital cities and countries as a whole and probably not specific to Paris. Normandy is a lovely area.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 9:26:17 GMT
I can’t say that i know enough of France to pass any judgment or comment. I habve only ever been to see Pink Floyd in Paris and my abiding memory was that Parisians were a miserable lot and it was very expensive plus i found it extremely difficult to engage anyone in conversation but, on the flip side of that, i used to go to Normandy with my father, to the yearly commemoration of the D day landings and it was the polar opposite and we could hardly ever pay for a drink or a meal. It is not somewhere that i woulkd consider moving to but, as i say, i habve limited experience of the country. Similar with my experience, I would differentiate between Paris and France. I suspect this is something associated with large capital cities and countries as a whole and probably not specific to Paris. Normandy is a lovely area. It is Stuart and i am off there, on the 26th until the 30th. It will be the first time i have gone , without dad so i expect it to be an emotional experience. I honestly think that it should be part of every school curriculum to visit the battle sites and war graves and i am getting more and more concerned that each new generation are not only forgetting but do not wish to know of that history. I think it would be very educational and also give some perspective to many
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 10, 2023 9:34:52 GMT
Similar with my experience, I would differentiate between Paris and France. I suspect this is something associated with large capital cities and countries as a whole and probably not specific to Paris. Normandy is a lovely area. It is Stuart and i am off there, on the 26th until the 30th. It will be the first time i have gone , without dad so i expect it to be an emotional experience. I honestly think that it should be part of every school curriculum to visit the battle sites and war graves and i am getting more and more concerned that each new generation are not only forgetting but do not wish to know of that history. I think it would be very educational and also give some perspective to many Was hoping to go myself that week, unfortunately things proved impractical so will miss it this year. Definitely hope to take my daughter at some point.
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Post by percy on Aug 10, 2023 9:37:45 GMT
possibly the most random off topic yet! Well done all.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 10, 2023 9:42:46 GMT
Similar with my experience, I would differentiate between Paris and France. I suspect this is something associated with large capital cities and countries as a whole and probably not specific to Paris. Normandy is a lovely area. It is Stuart and i am off there, on the 26th until the 30th. It will be the first time i have gone , without dad so i expect it to be an emotional experience. I honestly think that it should be part of every school curriculum to visit the battle sites and war graves and i am getting more and more concerned that each new generation are not only forgetting but do not wish to know of that history. I think it would be very educational and also give some perspective to many All it takes for a war is for everyone who’s been in one to die off. You only need to take one look at social media to see the flag waving and celebration of dead Russian soldiers to see we’ve already forgotten. I’m sure as a pole you’re not rushing to their defence but they are someone’s son. Some poor mother somewhere is clutching a photograph, and that’s all she will ever have left of the son she spent her life raising and caring for. It’s a horrible business but while we have televisions and governments then you will never find a shortage of people eager to stoke the flames. All the focus is on winning, when the focus should be on peace, and an immediate end to bloodshed.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 9:43:13 GMT
possibly the most random off topic yet! Well done all. Does it offend you ? If you look at most of the threads then you will find they go off of topic. No one else has complained but i was done in any case.
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Post by percy on Aug 10, 2023 9:48:20 GMT
possibly the most random off topic yet! Well done all. Does it offend you ? If you look at most of the threads then you will find they go off of topic. No one else has complained but i was done in any case. Did I say it did?! Just commenting, as is all our rights. Not complaining. Chill, if it was a complaint, it would have been worded as one.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 10, 2023 9:53:42 GMT
Does it offend you ? If you look at most of the threads then you will find they go off of topic. No one else has complained but i was done in any case. Did I say it did?! Just commenting, as is all our rights. Not complaining. Chill, if it was a complaint, it would have been worded as one. Fair enough, i can only speak for myself in that it’s an emotional time of year four me. Sometimes it helps if I ask able to share a few of my thoughts.
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