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Post by farmerofsheep on Aug 7, 2023 12:00:44 GMT
I have just done my comment, it is easy to do please share with your friends, there are a lot of " Objects " comments on there
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Post by islandgas on Aug 7, 2023 12:13:09 GMT
Rovers must have spoken to the Council before they put in the application and must have been assured that planning permission will be forthcoming. I can't think of any other explanation. Well maybe….but not sure how the Council can give that concrete (excuse the pun🤭) assurance upfront prior to any objections/due process and, even if they did, the bit that’s missing from that conversation is ….when?. Given PP once granted is valid for 3 years (I think) what was the rush to put ourselves in this position? I should have thought that the planners are well aware of the type and quantity of objections (there won't be anything new) that will be made and have considered the merits of the proposal and feel that it should be granted. What other explanation can there be? As regards to timelines, I can only assume that Rovers have been given assurances that it will be determined very soon after the consultation period ends. Additionally, taking the existing stands down will help expedite the matter because it will put pressure on the council to make a decision. If it doesn't and planning permission isn't given this will prove to be a huge mistake. |
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 7, 2023 12:40:29 GMT
Well maybe….but not sure how the Council can give that concrete (excuse the pun🤭) assurance upfront prior to any objections/due process and, even if they did, the bit that’s missing from that conversation is ….when?. Given PP once granted is valid for 3 years (I think) what was the rush to put ourselves in this position? I should have thought that the planners are well aware of the type and quantity of objections (there won't be anything new) that will be made and have considered the merits of the proposal and feel that it should be granted. What other explanation can there be? As regards to timelines, I can only assume that Rovers have been given assurances that it will be determined very soon after the consultation period ends. Additionally, taking the existing stands down will help expedite the matter because it will put pressure on the council to make a decision. If it doesn't and planning permission isn't given this will prove to be a huge mistake. Really not sure that us taking down the existing stand will push the Council into doing anything faster. Why would they give a stuff about that? Nowt to do with them if we have voluntarily cut off a source of income and given ourselves a headache in that process. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 7, 2023 12:41:59 GMT
Objections alone cannot be the ground for refusal, but valid and material concerns with in them can. From what I've seen, a lot of the objections are vacuous, and not relevant to planning laws.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 7, 2023 12:46:55 GMT
Objections alone cannot be the ground for refusal, but valid and material concerns with in them can. From what I've seen, a lot of the objections are vacuous, and not relevant to planning laws. Concur with that Tilly…..but it’s still a planning process that has to be followed and has been said on here from various posters the whole process for this within BCC is flaky (regarding timelines). So why was this not thought through before the demolition……? |
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Post by islandgas on Aug 7, 2023 13:20:10 GMT
I should have thought that the planners are well aware of the type and quantity of objections (there won't be anything new) that will be made and have considered the merits of the proposal and feel that it should be granted. What other explanation can there be? As regards to timelines, I can only assume that Rovers have been given assurances that it will be determined very soon after the consultation period ends. Additionally, taking the existing stands down will help expedite the matter because it will put pressure on the council to make a decision. If it doesn't and planning permission isn't given this will prove to be a huge mistake. Really not sure that us taking down the existing stand will push the Council into doing anything faster. Why would they give a stuff about that? Nowt to do with them if we have voluntarily cut off a source of income and given ourselves a headache in that process. I suppose we'll have to wait and see but I'm sure Rovers can bring more pressure to bear through the media and it's fans etc. I should also hope that the Council does care about Rovers and would want to do their best for us. Time will undoubtedly tell! |
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Post by oddball on Aug 7, 2023 18:12:05 GMT
Do you think the council reads every submission, or just tally’s up the objections vs support? Surly its just a power of numbers thing? I dont know how it works
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Post by singupgas on Aug 7, 2023 18:35:30 GMT
Just reading the objects. Some very obviously written by Teds, lots of people claiming to be neighbours, which is obviously bollocks.
What I don't get is sure anything required for the build is just turn into main entrance and driving down behind the West Stand?
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 7, 2023 19:14:17 GMT
Do you think the council reads every submission, or just tally’s up the objections vs support? Surly its just a power of numbers thing? I dont know how it works It doesn't work, if BCC just decided on public opinion they'd leave themselves wide open to lose the case at any appeal hearing. The decision will be purely based on planning rules not a popularity competition. Surely if it was down to public opinion alone Sainsbury's would have never got pp for a superstore at the Mem. |
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Post by hippo on Aug 7, 2023 21:28:28 GMT
Out of interest, can anyone just lodge support / object?
Surely you have to be a local resident who is actually affected by the construction work for BCC to really give a monkeys about your opinion?
Will go on regardless and enter my 2p worth but wondered how much use it will be
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Post by gasonthemount on Aug 7, 2023 22:03:50 GMT
Out of interest, can anyone just lodge support / object? Surely you have to be a local resident who is actually affected by the construction work for BCC to really give a monkeys about your opinion? Will go on regardless and enter my 2p worth but wondered how much use it will be The quick answer is yes. As supporters of BRFC who attend the Mem to watch matches then we are definitely entitled to show our support for the application and the benefits it will bring to fans both home and away. Likewise someone who lives in Alton Road is entitled to object. However if someone objects but lives no where near the ground then BCC will virtually ignore. Support or objections have to be relevant to the planning application and how it could impact you for better or worse. However if someone states that they will be overlooked, the fact is that they will not be. In addition no one other than local residents can park in Alton Road, so parking can not get worse. The planning officer will understand all these points. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Aug 8, 2023 7:55:43 GMT
Daft question maybe, but our personal details we need to disclose to make a comment - do they remain anonymous to all other than the Council?
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 8, 2023 8:40:29 GMT
Daft question maybe, but our personal details we need to disclose to make a comment - do they remain anonymous to all other than the Council? Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 |
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Post by kruger on Aug 8, 2023 8:46:05 GMT
Daft question maybe, but our personal details we need to disclose to make a comment - do they remain anonymous to all other than the Council? Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 does anyone know the answer, I haven't commented yet? |
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Post by Westy on Aug 8, 2023 8:49:44 GMT
Daft question maybe, but our personal details we need to disclose to make a comment - do they remain anonymous to all other than the Council? Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 They do yeah, you can see the other local comments in support/object have personal details redacted at the top of each form  |
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Post by DrFaustus on Aug 8, 2023 9:35:22 GMT
Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 They do yeah, you can see the other local comments in support/object have personal details redacted at the top of each form Thanks Westy (and Matealot...I think 😁). Comments added. UTG. 🏴☠️ |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 8, 2023 11:09:05 GMT
Daft question maybe, but our personal details we need to disclose to make a comment - do they remain anonymous to all other than the Council? Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 I’d be interested in who M.Lawysz is as that is a Polish name and says is from Staple hill. Would the council take any objections from someone living so far away from the area in question ? |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 8, 2023 11:10:37 GMT
Nope - We’ve got to know where to put the horses head…..🤪 does anyone know the answer, I haven't commented yet? I went on there last night and could see names and areas but no addresses. I very much doubt they would publish addresses and especially on a topic as emotive as this |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 8, 2023 11:18:49 GMT
Out of interest, can anyone just lodge support / object? Surely you have to be a local resident who is actually affected by the construction work for BCC to really give a monkeys about your opinion? Will go on regardless and enter my 2p worth but wondered how much use it will be The quick answer is yes. As supporters of BRFC who attend the Mem to watch matches then we are definitely entitled to show our support for the application and the benefits it will bring to fans both home and away. Likewise someone who lives in Alton Road is entitled to object. However if someone objects but lives no where near the ground then BCC will virtually ignore. Support or objections have to be relevant to the planning application and how it could impact you for better or worse. However if someone states that they will be overlooked, the fact is that they will not be. In addition no one other than local residents can park in Alton Road, so parking can not get worse. The planning officer will understand all these points. Thanks for clarifying this. I was going ahead with my support but then thought they would not take it into consideration but will now carry on. After all a football club is a community thing and surely the council would have to take into account how not being able to engage with something that maybe is your only social outlet, could be damaging. I just immediately thought that they would not even look at it, once they saw the address |
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Post by Gasshole on Aug 8, 2023 11:21:38 GMT
Whilst reading the comments….The amount of people who have checked the object box , but clearly support the application is actually frightening.
Sort yourselves out ppl….. you had one job to do.
I’m fairly sure it’s a head to head tally that will be important…..not sure anyone will read the comments….. shear volume.
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