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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 12, 2023 11:06:14 GMT
So he does win the argument then. Cheers for confirming. Just to make your point even weaker, during the Boston Marathon bombings, Boston was put under military control and made a police state for several days. This was done easily and accepted by people. There were police tanks patrolling the streets and the people of Boston complied with the draconian curfew measures without a whimper. This was under the watch of a very left wing Omama regime. But, you know, feel free to keep attacking GOA. We don't agree on much politically, but I'm always much more aware of an issue when I agree with someone so ideologically different to me. Your argument dies when you call any government of the USA (or Uk) very left wing. Hasn’t been one in decades. The Overton window has shifted so far right since the 80s. I agree with this in economic terms. Fewer nationalised industries for a start. The reason being that the economic argument got defeated in 1989 with the collapse of the SU. What we have now is the worst of all worlds. A lot of private monopolies, under close government regulation. We are FAR more regulated now than we were in the 80s, you can’t fart in business without filling in a form. So it’s complicated. Anyway, despite having a dig at the poster above I do think we’ve derailed it a bit so while it gets my goat when people beg moderators to start banning people, I do get that it’s our own little vendettas so I think a bit of self moderation is in order. COYB. We are all on the same side really |
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Post by holmesgas1 on Aug 12, 2023 11:32:44 GMT
Loss trade often cited, but lets say cashless works 95% of the time, the transaction is at least 5 times quicker than cash/change so where there are lots of queues and a short time to serve cashless will ensure more trade overall. There is a reason more and more businesses are doing this. Imagine waiting for change..... apart from rovers where else is cashless in Bristol? I assume you don’t get out much |
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Post by wertongas on Aug 12, 2023 11:59:46 GMT
What do I do with all the loose change in my handbag and drawers? Ask a stripper they are used to having cash put in their Draws/ knickers |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 12, 2023 12:33:26 GMT
Another thread goes down the sh**ter Yep, tiring isn't it? I think it's about time moderators did a bit more moderating. Posters should be advised to keep the discussion on track and then given a warning if they persist, then posts deleted. This is how it generally works on other forums I'm a member of. Otherwise you end up with what we have now - a forum full of WUMs personal attacks and bizarre tangents. It's hardly worth creating threads with a subject as any new posts could literally be about anything. To be honest, I'm starting to think I can't be bothered with it, which is a shame as I'm an exiled Gas so this place is my main way of keeping up with fans views on what's going on with my beloved club. You can always scroll by and just read the parts that are relevant, no need to delete your account. It really is that easy OR you can block those that you feel are not giving you the information that you want to have. Just a couple of options open to you |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 12, 2023 12:39:10 GMT
So he does win the argument then. Cheers for confirming. Just to make your point even weaker, during the Boston Marathon bombings, Boston was put under military control and made a police state for several days. This was done easily and accepted by people. There were police tanks patrolling the streets and the people of Boston complied with the draconian curfew measures without a whimper. This was under the watch of a very left wing Omama regime. But, you know, feel free to keep attacking GOA. We don't agree on much politically, but I'm always much more aware of an issue when I agree with someone so ideologically different to me. Your argument dies when you call any government of the USA (or Uk) very left wing. Hasn’t been one in decades. The Overton window has shifted so far right since the 80s. But Hugo does not actually say that, if you read it, properly, it says the Boston affair was overseen by a democrat president who is know to be liberal/left in his thoughts and not that the government is left leaning |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 12, 2023 12:47:23 GMT
Your argument dies when you call any government of the USA (or Uk) very left wing. Hasn’t been one in decades. The Overton window has shifted so far right since the 80s. But Hugo does not actually say that, if you read it, properly, it says the Boston affair was overseen by a democrat president who is know to be liberal/left in his thoughts and not that the government is left leaning That was my intention but in fairness, not what I actually said. |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2023 12:57:06 GMT
Your argument dies when you call any government of the USA (or Uk) very left wing. Hasn’t been one in decades. The Overton window has shifted so far right since the 80s. But Hugo does not actually say that, if you read it, properly, it says the Boston affair was overseen by a democrat president who is know to be liberal/left in his thoughts and not that the government is left leaning The democrats are about the equivalent of the old Tory party ( yet they still get labelled as communists by the loons ) , the current Tory party are much further to the right since the ukip takeover. Percy is bang on the money when he says the Overton window has shifted ever further right in the last 15 yrs . Here & in the USA . |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 12, 2023 13:07:12 GMT
Can we take the political philosophy to general chat now?
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 12, 2023 13:27:19 GMT
Not surprised, an overpriced burger van for us in the west terrace and can’t even get a tea or coffee let alone a pasty!
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Post by percy on Aug 12, 2023 13:58:19 GMT
Your argument dies when you call any government of the USA (or Uk) very left wing. Hasn’t been one in decades. The Overton window has shifted so far right since the 80s. But Hugo does not actually say that, if you read it, properly, it says the Boston affair was overseen by a democrat president who is know to be liberal/left in his thoughts and not that the government is left leaning no. He literally said “ a very left wing Omama regime.” Any UTG |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2023 13:59:53 GMT
But Hugo does not actually say that, if you read it, properly, it says the Boston affair was overseen by a democrat president who is know to be liberal/left in his thoughts and not that the government is left leaning no. He literally said “ a very left wing Omama regime.” Any UTG Still laughing at that now 😂 Anyway , back to the footy ! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Aug 12, 2023 14:37:32 GMT
no. He literally said “ a very left wing Omama regime.” Any UTG Still laughing at that now 😂 Anyway , back to the footy ! House a representatives was a bit different though. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2023 14:56:15 GMT
Not surprised, an overpriced burger van for us in the west terrace and can’t even get a tea or coffee let alone a pasty! The cleaners note in the portable loos states they were last cleaned/check in Oct 2022, unfortunately, they look like that was probably the case!! |
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Post by eric on Aug 12, 2023 16:55:22 GMT
Not surprised, an overpriced burger van for us in the west terrace and can’t even get a tea or coffee let alone a pasty! I didn’t enjoy the £6.50 burger much. I wouldn’t have minded paying the advertised £2.50 for a cup of tea but the staff then told me they don’t do hot drinks ! The club should also provide a complimentary shoe wash after you’ve had to stand in the mud to get served. Anyway, I’m sure it will all be fixed by the next home game when the South Stand is in place !! The good news is the football was great - a bit more clinical in the final third and we’d have had a handsome win. UTG. |
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Post by wertongas on Aug 12, 2023 22:02:38 GMT
Going back to not so Bright, he can't be blamed for the stand fiasco, his remit was ticketing. I can remeber Wael saying back in May that he had left the work for sorting the new South Stand to TG.
So any club responsability for the mess lies on TG's shoulders.
Still going to write to the planning inspectorate or Ombudsmon and send a copy of my letter to leaders at the council, expressing my concerns over the mess the planning dept seems to be in and how it has impacted the football club.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 13, 2023 6:30:34 GMT
Going back to not so Bright, he can't be blamed for the stand fiasco, his remit was ticketing. I can remeber Wael saying back in May that he had left the work for sorting the new South Stand to TG. So any club responsability for the mess lies on TG's shoulders. Still going to write to the planning inspectorate or Ombudsmon and send a copy of my letter to leaders at the council, expressing my concerns over the mess the planning dept seems to be in and how it has impacted the football club. They'll blame their backlog on Brexit and or COVID like everyone else. DB had little to do with ticketing, imo. As I understand it, that befalls to Pete Weymouth. DB might have to collaborate though when it comes to duties such as hospitality. I see the Stand fiasco buck stops with TG. As he's got rid of anyone that would have done the job properly by his go to policy of outsourcing.. |
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Post by peterparker on Aug 13, 2023 6:55:52 GMT
Going back to not so Bright, he can't be blamed for the stand fiasco, his remit was ticketing. I can remeber Wael saying back in May that he had left the work for sorting the new South Stand to TG. So any club responsability for the mess lies on TG's shoulders. Still going to write to the planning inspectorate or Ombudsmon and send a copy of my letter to leaders at the council, expressing my concerns over the mess the planning dept seems to be in and how it has impacted the football club. They'll blame their backlog on Brexit and or COVID like everyone else. DB had little to do with ticketing, imo. As I understand it, that befalls to Pete Weymouth. DB might have to collaborate though when it comes to duties such as hospitality. I see the Stand fiasco buck stops with TG. As he's got rid of anyone that would have done the job properly by his go to policy of outsourcing.. Pete is an admin guy is he not. Dont think he makes the decision to change the ticketing/entry system for a 3rd season in a row requiring new cards etc. In theory if we now keep this new system no new cards will be required |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 13, 2023 6:57:06 GMT
Didn't we actually needed to outsource the stand build from day 1 to architects to deal with design to build? If you look at the application form completed by TG there are loads of errors i.e. no trees affected, the building can't be seen from the road etc.
Perhaps if we'd outsourced the project we'd still have the tents instead of netting?
If we'd met the Green party and offered them a nice little donation then planning may have also not been called in!
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 13, 2023 7:09:15 GMT
They'll blame their backlog on Brexit and or COVID like everyone else. DB had little to do with ticketing, imo. As I understand it, that befalls to Pete Weymouth. DB might have to collaborate though when it comes to duties such as hospitality. I see the Stand fiasco buck stops with TG. As he's got rid of anyone that would have done the job properly by his go to policy of outsourcing.. Pete is an admin guy is he not. Dont think he makes the decision to change the ticketing/entry system for a 3rd season in a row requiring new cards etc. In theory if we now keep this new system no new cards will be required Ah I see, yes PW ticketing admin and that decision has to be made higher up. On the entry system, I have to say everyone who had a new ticket around me appeared to have no problems yesterday for our first home match. Probably because of a qr code instead of barcode. If your new season ticket didn't arrive in time I would strongly suggest this is partly down to TG. As he was directly involved with trying to get the match rescheduled or reversed, banked on EFL/Barnsley agreeing to it, then running out of time. Either way, the stand project and the new season ticket project should have been completed close season which I think we can all agree on..? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 13, 2023 7:11:48 GMT
Didn't we actually needed to outsource the stand build from day 1 to architects to deal with design to build? If you look at the application form completed by TG there are loads of errors i.e. no trees affected, the building can't be seen from the road etc. Perhaps if we'd outsourced the project we'd still have the tents instead of netting? If we'd met the Green party and offered them a nice little donation then planning may have also not been called in! We could've offered the Green party some green, but we're cashless these days! |
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