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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 10:35:16 GMT
So it seems as though JBs days may be numbered at Rovers. I wanted to take a moment to thank him for his service. He was a steal from Harrogate and played a huge part in our promotion season. Yes he had a whoopsy in him, what lg2 keeper doesn’t? He is a character and no doubt had an influence on that squad. Thank you “Belly” good luck in your next team. I rate him, but no manager can put up with any player who throws their toys out of the pram whenever they're dropped. He made a few mistakes last season which cost us, so a few games out of the team were needed to get him to refocus. I personally think he had to deal with more than his fair share of deflected goals and being unsighted last season, but that's no excuse for petulance. Disagree with this to a certain extent. I want to see a squad full of players who are openly unhappy at being dropped. The opposite type of player doesn't have the desire or hunger and ambition to do the very best. This all hinges on what he has (if anything) said to Barton or coaching staff, but on the whole yeah love players who are not happy with being dropped, plenty more of that desire to play week in week out thanks. |
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Post by titchthephot on Aug 14, 2023 10:36:15 GMT
Like the manager getting banned for 3 games for verbally attacking the referee? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you mean Barton's ban, then I suppose that's similar, although more serious, and he's received a suitable punishment and we can all move on. 'No manager can put up with a player who throws his toys out of the pram' but we have to put up with a manager who does worse? Maybe slightly double standards here but whoa betide me for daring to criticize the god Joey....well, not on this Forum anyway. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Aug 14, 2023 11:57:02 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you mean Barton's ban, then I suppose that's similar, although more serious, and he's received a suitable punishment and we can all move on. 'No manager can put up with a player who throws his toys out of the pram' but we have to put up with a manager who does worse? Maybe slightly double standards here but whoa betide me for daring to criticize the god Joey....well, not on this Forum anyway. A player throwing their toys out of the pram can be disruptive to the squad, and have an effect in training, particularly a specialised position like a goalkeeper. I love Belly, however, he went down this route last time, and was taken back into the squad again, not sure that it is wise to repeat it several months later. I think there was probably a bit of justification for it previously, but this time, I think he just needs to fight for his place. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 14, 2023 12:48:48 GMT
"Player of the year", gives a 100%, unhappy when dropped, top-man wants to play bang on, played well behind a average defence last season, makes big saves, brave as a lion, will need to fight for the jersey "again" definitely need to keep the Bellster
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2023 12:56:20 GMT
One of the worst performing GK's last season and now reportledy throws a strop AGAIN. Thanks for his efforts and memories in League Two and wish him well in the future, but time to move him on.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 14, 2023 13:15:37 GMT
'No manager can put up with a player who throws his toys out of the pram' but we have to put up with a manager who does worse? Maybe slightly double standards here but whoa betide me for daring to criticize the god Joey....well, not on this Forum anyway. A player throwing their toys out of the pram can be disruptive to the squad, and have an effect in training, particularly a specialised position like a goalkeeper. I love Belly, however, he went down this route last time, and was taken back into the squad again, not sure that it is wise to repeat it several months later. I think there was probably a bit of justification for it previously, but this time, I think he just needs to fight for his place. Only one winner here TT he will be gone soon, or playing 1v 1 against Trevor Clarke 😂 |
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Post by westfieldgas on Aug 14, 2023 13:16:52 GMT
One of the worst performing GK's last season and now reportledy throws a strop AGAIN. Thanks for his efforts and memories in League Two and wish him well in the future, but time to move him on. Spot on! |
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Post by yattongas on Aug 14, 2023 13:20:20 GMT
One of the worst performing GK's last season and now reportledy throws a strop AGAIN. Thanks for his efforts and memories in League Two and wish him well in the future, but time to move him on. Not sure what football some people watch if they think Belly was up to standard last season. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 14, 2023 15:44:40 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you mean Barton's ban, then I suppose that's similar, although more serious, and he's received a suitable punishment and we can all move on. 'No manager can put up with a player who throws his toys out of the pram' but we have to put up with a manager who does worse? Maybe slightly double standards here but whoa betide me for daring to criticize the god Joey....well, not on this Forum anyway. Why do some people on here need to turn any thread into a spot of Joey bashing? It's been said and repeated a thousand times. You don't like the bloke, I get it, and respect your reasons. However he's moving our club in the right direction, which is more than can be said for nearly every manager we've ever had. So let's start talking about football a little more on here and stop getting personal all of the time. I retract any criticism of Mr Belshaw for starters. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Aug 14, 2023 16:53:06 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. If you mean Barton's ban, then I suppose that's similar, although more serious, and he's received a suitable punishment and we can all move on. 'No manager can put up with a player who throws his toys out of the pram' but we have to put up with a manager who does worse? Maybe slightly double standards here but whoa betide me for daring to criticize the god Joey....well, not on this Forum anyway. You can have an opinion as much as anyone else but we all know what yours is of JB. When he does good stuff you are nowhere to be seen but pipe up on here when there's chance to have a dig. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2023 19:08:06 GMT
One of the worst performing GK's last season and now reportledy throws a strop AGAIN. Thanks for his efforts and memories in League Two and wish him well in the future, but time to move him on. Not sure what football some people watch if they think Belly was up to standard last season. The whole defence from the midfield backwards wasn't up to scratch once Rossiter and Thomas departed, up to that point it wasn't too bad. Whilst Cox has done nothing wrong he's hardly been spectacular since he joined, having all conceded 4 goals in 3 games. Assuming Belshaw does leave it'll be interesting to see who he joins and what levels he's playing at in a couple of years time. |
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Post by bridgwatergas on Aug 14, 2023 19:26:44 GMT
Not sure what football some people watch if they think Belly was up to standard last season. The whole defence from the midfield backwards wasn't up to scratch once Rossiter and Thomas departed, up to that point it wasn't too bad. Whilst Cox has done nothing wrong he's hardly been spectacular since he joined, having all conceded 4 goals in 3 games. Assuming Belshaw does leave it'll be interesting to see who he joins and what levels he's playing at in a couple of years time. I would be amazed if he played league 1 football again. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 14, 2023 19:28:41 GMT
Howlers both home and away to Exeter certainly didn’t help Belly’s cause, then came that one in pre season just gone over in Portugal. Not great.
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Post by phillistine on Aug 14, 2023 19:57:51 GMT
Howlers both home and away to Exeter certainly didn’t help Belly’s cause, then came that one in pre season just gone over in Portugal. Not great. i think that people forget that we played such a high line that we were always getting caught out by a ball over the top and Belly had to be on his toes as a keeper sweeper. Inevitably he is going to get caught out occasionally. As for the match in Portugal - the guy has played for us for 2 years and i cannot believe that his future is determined by a single misunderstanding between himself and Hoole in a match of no significance. i do believe that Cox will be a good signing but dislike how the knives are out for Belly. He will be a great signing for someone |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2023 19:58:32 GMT
The whole defence from the midfield backwards wasn't up to scratch once Rossiter and Thomas departed, up to that point it wasn't too bad. Whilst Cox has done nothing wrong he's hardly been spectacular since he joined, having all conceded 4 goals in 3 games. Assuming Belshaw does leave it'll be interesting to see who he joins and what levels he's playing at in a couple of years time. I would be amazed if he played league 1 football again. A bit of an overreaction he may have his faults but L1 is hardly totally beyond him. |
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Post by fanboy on Aug 14, 2023 20:01:57 GMT
Regardless of who is right or wrong, the fact is it’s fantastic for us as a club that we have a manager who actually calls those out that aren’t right for the project anymore and deals with it.
In years gone by, managers frankly didn’t have the balls for it.
JB makes mistakes but he tends to remove them from the club as quickly as possible. Under John Ward or Paul Trollope, even DC tbh, we’d be forced to watch those mistakes play out for multiple years.
I don’t really care who’s right or wrong, at the end of the day Joey’s job is to build a squad that competes at the top end of the table. I think he’s nailing that atm.
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Post by willytopp84 on Aug 14, 2023 20:11:42 GMT
He will be one of the best keepers in League Two if he drops down!
If Wrexham didn't have Ben Foster they coulda nabbed him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2023 20:18:43 GMT
Regardless of who is right or wrong, the fact is it’s fantastic for us as a club that we have a manager who actually calls those out that aren’t right for the project anymore and deals with it. In years gone by, managers frankly didn’t have the balls for it. JB makes mistakes but he tends to remove them from the club as quickly as possible. Under John Ward or Paul Trollope, even DC tbh, we’d be forced to watch those mistakes play out for multiple years. I don’t really care who’s right or wrong, at the end of the day Joey’s job is to build a squad that competes at the top end of the table. I think he’s nailing that atm. At the moment JB is doing no better in L1 than either PT or DC, the signs are promising but we're still only 15th in the league and already knocked out of the league cup. We also still seem to lack a goal scorer like JCH or Lambert who can turn draws into victories. |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Aug 14, 2023 20:33:32 GMT
Howlers both home and away to Exeter certainly didn’t help Belly’s cause, then came that one in pre season just gone over in Portugal. Not great. i think that people forget that we played such a high line that we were always getting caught out by a ball over the top and Belly had to be on his toes as a keeper sweeper. Inevitably he is going to get caught out occasionally. As for the match in Portugal - the guy has played for us for 2 years and i cannot believe that his future is determined by a single misunderstanding between himself and Hoole in a match of no significance. i do believe that Cox will be a good signing but dislike how the knives are out for Belly. He will be a great signing for someone This is a valid point but we are definitely playing a deeper defensive line this season so sweeperkeeper not required now? |
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Post by fanboy on Aug 14, 2023 20:47:02 GMT
Regardless of who is right or wrong, the fact is it’s fantastic for us as a club that we have a manager who actually calls those out that aren’t right for the project anymore and deals with it. In years gone by, managers frankly didn’t have the balls for it. JB makes mistakes but he tends to remove them from the club as quickly as possible. Under John Ward or Paul Trollope, even DC tbh, we’d be forced to watch those mistakes play out for multiple years. I don’t really care who’s right or wrong, at the end of the day Joey’s job is to build a squad that competes at the top end of the table. I think he’s nailing that atm. At the moment JB is doing no better in L1 than either PT or DC, the signs are promising but we're still only 15th in the league and already knocked out of the league cup. We also still seem to lack a goal scorer like JCH or Lambert who can turn draws into victories. I see far, far more quality in this side than any side assembled by PT or DC. The potential of this side is scary. |
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