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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 12:16:50 GMT
On and on and on and on with the same things ruining every topic.some are certainlty doing their best to drive away users of this forum who just want to talk about the football. Maybe mods needs to reign in some of the users who are almost bordering on blowing up. This is a bit snowflake isn’t it? I’ve apologised for my post, I was wrong and out of order. But……….you are setting guidelines we can only post on football? Our very own manager talks about so many things other than football, this Twitter pay wall was his view on the game and not just us but ultimately football. I said I would help others with their holidays?! koryogroup.com/tours/dprk-north-korea/group✌🏻 I have no dislike or like for Barton as I have never met him. my dealings with him are watching him manage the club I follow. The umberage I have is with the constant bullying of a individual that some on here know can not answer back. You talk about vulnerability of individuals yet the manager who has admitted to the public of dark thoughts and reaching a end has not stopped a certain group of pulling him to pieces on any subject non football related they can find on a public forum and thats not right for the majority of decent human beings.suppose that is being a snowflake. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 12:40:14 GMT
Barton chooses to defend himself on Twitter, he has 2.8 million followers. If he was worried about what people thought of him, he’d not leave himself this open and I can assure you he doesn’t care what 100 people on a forum say.
We never had discussions about Darrell Clarke like this, no other manager. DC had an issue with Ellis, he went on loan to Pools and with man management came back much stronger from it all, did DC go the Barton route?
If this is some form of defence of Barton again it’s incredible.
My snowflake comment was based on you basically calling out for the MODS or reprimand me.
You will be telling us next we meet to think about Donald Trump’s mental health! If Barton wants to tweet women should not be allowed to referee in the men’s game, shouldn’t we be allowed to reply, isn’t that the point of Twitter or am I missing something? And in turn we talk about it on this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 12:45:58 GMT
Barton chooses to defend himself on Twitter, he has 2.8 million followers. If he was worried about what people thought of him, he’d not leave himself this open and I can assure you he doesn’t care what 100 people on a forum say. We never had discussions about Darrell Clarke like this, no other manager. DC had an issue with Ellis, he went on loan to Pools and with man management came back much stronger from it all, did DC go the Barton route? If this is some form of defence of Barton again it’s incredible. My snowflake comment was based on you basically calling out for the MODS or reprimand me. You will be telling us next we meet to think about Donald Trump’s mental health! If Barton wants to tweet women should not be allowed to referee in the men’s game, shouldn’t we be allowed to reply, isn’t that the point of Twitter or am I missing something? And in turn we talk about it on this forum. you have lost the plot. Almost showing signs of a physical nature and that is worrying |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 12:48:28 GMT
Ironically I worry you have as well.
UTG
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Post by eric on Oct 3, 2023 12:52:54 GMT
At the same time, if JB stubbed a cigar out in Nicks face some people on here would excuse it Made me laugh out loud, take a bow, brilliant reply 😂👏🏻 They’d also defend a player suicide because of his bullying. Clarke Carlisle’s gambling was party to him trying to take his life several times, Stephen Caulker has said he contemplated suicide, Luke Thomas took extended time away from the game to get mentally well, if he’s feeling sh** this week, none of it would be Barton’s fault. What a vile creature you are. Weaponising male suicide to beef up your vendetta against JB is pretty sick. FWIW I didn’t really want JB when he was first touted as our Manager as never liked him as a player and because of some of the stuff he’d done when younger. That said I also try and understand his upbringing and the part that has played in his actions in his early life and wouldn’t want him “cancelled” from the football industry forever. Since he’s been here there have been ups and downs of course and he’s far from conventional but the way he’s led us to promotion, attracted some terrific players and now playing some of the best football I’ve seen for years, we’ll I’m pretty happy with where we are. He now needs to take this talented squad to promotion. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Oct 3, 2023 13:10:58 GMT
At the same time, if JB stubbed a cigar out in Nicks face some people on here would excuse it Made me laugh out loud, take a bow, brilliant reply 😂👏🏻 They’d also defend a player suicide because of his bullying. Clarke Carlisle’s gambling was party to him trying to take his life several times, Stephen Caulker has said he contemplated suicide, Luke Thomas took extended time away from the game to get mentally well, if he’s feeling sh** this week, none of it would be Barton’s fault. I think it's pretty bad form taking this down the suicide path. Let's wait and see how things pan out, once Luke is back from his 6 week injury lay-off. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 3, 2023 14:30:51 GMT
That is quite a link. Shows JB is involved in a tax avoidance scheme. It does nothing of the sort. Incidentally, tax avoidance is not illegal, per se, but you probably knew that already, right?Yes, of course I did. It links nicely with the Ethical vs Legal comment I made on the South Stand thread. I think is nice to see JB in the middle of a tax avoidance scheme and one the HMRC has already taken to the courts and won! It's a nice bit of Schadenfreude. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 3, 2023 14:40:27 GMT
It does nothing of the sort. Incidentally, tax avoidance is not illegal, per se, but you probably knew that already, right?Yes, of course I did. It links nicely with the Ethical vs Legal comment I made on the South Stand thread. I think is nice to see JB in the middle of a tax avoidance scheme and one the HMRC has already taken to the courts and won! It's a nice bit of Schadenfreude. Interesting, do you have a link to the case? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 14:50:23 GMT
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Post by DrFaustus on Oct 3, 2023 15:00:50 GMT
It does nothing of the sort. Incidentally, tax avoidance is not illegal, per se, but you probably knew that already, right?Yes, of course I did. It links nicely with the Ethical vs Legal comment I made on the South Stand thread. I think is nice to see JB in the middle of a tax avoidance scheme and one the HMRC has already taken to the courts and won! It's a nice bit of Schadenfreude. Interesting then that you refer to a very well known scheme that "caught" hundreds of badly advised wealthy individuals, yet somehow Joe's directorship of an unrelated company is mentioned, below. This thread is getting desperate. Anyway, I'm away for some pre match sustenance. Enjoy yourself. UTFG 🏴☠️ |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2023 15:18:03 GMT
Zero proof of anything from that article, definitely no evidence that he did anything illegal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 15:21:11 GMT
Zero proof of anything from that article, definitely no evidence that he did anything illegal. Agreed, was just pointing out why he probably said it. Hey, at least you managed to read this article properly. Found a Bristol live one mentioning Goldman sachs yet ? |
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Post by gasify on Oct 3, 2023 15:22:33 GMT
Yes, of course I did. It links nicely with the Ethical vs Legal comment I made on the South Stand thread. I think is nice to see JB in the middle of a tax avoidance scheme and one the HMRC has already taken to the courts and won! It's a nice bit of Schadenfreude. Interesting then that you refer to a very well known scheme that "caught" hundreds of badly advised wealthy individuals, yet somehow Joe's directorship of an unrelated company is mentioned, below. This thread is getting desperate. Anyway, I'm away for some pre match sustenance. Enjoy yourself. UTFG 🏴☠️ I'm not really too sure of the point you are making. Here's one that he is actively part of: find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/OC339129Another LLP, set up by ingenious to avoid tax. As already pointed out. Tax avoidance is not illegal. Tax evasion is. These are tax avoidance schemes. Some have been litigated by HMRC and HMRC have won, some are in the process of litigation. FT has a pretty good article on the very scheme that JB is still in: www.ftadviser.com/2014/10/02/ifa-industry/your-business/tax-schemes-can-hurt-ifas-reputations-skZTT5wyaHGLXUQPGtcRmM/article.html |
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Post by gasify on Oct 3, 2023 15:23:50 GMT
Zero proof of anything from that article, definitely no evidence that he did anything illegal. I don't think anyone has accused him of doing something illegal. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 15:25:53 GMT
Zero proof of anything from that article, definitely no evidence that he did anything illegal. I don't think anyone has accused him of doing something illegal. Topper has this strange habit where he reads things and then his brain changes the actual words to different ones that he wants it to say. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 3, 2023 15:36:57 GMT
I don't think anyone has accused him of doing something illegal. Topper has this strange habit where he reads things and then his brain changes the actual words to different ones that he wants it to say. He has definitely responded with something that wasn't said. I do understand though. That's why I tried to make it clear in my posts that Avoidence wasn't illegal but evasion was. That these schemes are not illegal schemes but some would say, ethically and morally wrong. The relevance to this thread is that again, it shows the character of JB. Whilst some are having to depend on food banks, JB is spending thousands on tax avoidance schemes. I cannot prove that he has spent thousands, but I do know that this kind of scheme normally starts at around £20k and its not guaranteed to work... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 16:07:48 GMT
Gasify it also proves he has plenty of people able to fill out a Strip Bank account, by the look of it he has a very good financial expert working for him.
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Post by oldie on Oct 3, 2023 16:17:11 GMT
Topper has this strange habit where he reads things and then his brain changes the actual words to different ones that he wants it to say. He has definitely responded with something that wasn't said. I do understand though. That's why I tried to make it clear in my posts that Avoidence wasn't illegal but evasion was. That these schemes are not illegal schemes but some would say, ethically and morally wrong. The relevance to this thread is that again, it shows the character of JB. Whilst some are having to depend on food banks, JB is spending thousands on tax avoidance schemes. I cannot prove that he has spent thousands, but I do know that this kind of scheme normally starts at around £20k and its not guaranteed to work... No supporter of Barton I. But I do not buy into moralising over how people utilise their assets, as long as it is legal. Hypocrisy, yes. I don't see in this example that Barton has done anything wrong, morally nor legally. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2023 16:26:21 GMT
Topper has this strange habit where he reads things and then his brain changes the actual words to different ones that he wants it to say. He has definitely responded with something that wasn't said. I do understand though. That's why I tried to make it clear in my posts that Avoidence wasn't illegal but evasion was. That these schemes are not illegal schemes but some would say, ethically and morally wrong. The relevance to this thread is that again, it shows the character of JB. Whilst some are having to depend on food banks, JB is spending thousands on tax avoidance schemes. I cannot prove that he has spent thousands, but I do know that this kind of scheme normally starts at around £20k and its not guaranteed to work... JB's never denied he's not a wealthy individual, which employee has loaned Rovers £100K's if it's not JB?, but what's this really got to do with his subscription channel/NA surely you're not suggesting he should be making donations to a former player out of his own money, what other manager has ever done that? Where do you draw the line, what if Rossiter can never play again, does he also have to pay for his early retirement? Personally I thought that the head shave and running the marathon were marvellous gestures, they are more than I can recall any other Rovers manager doing for a player forced to retire early. |
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Post by gassince1957 on Oct 3, 2023 16:42:19 GMT
Am I missing the point? This thread was supposed to be about JB charging to view his Twitter/X posts. When it transpired this was to raise funds for Nick Anderton, the criticisms about him daring to charge suddenly turned into moans about everything else he has said/done/not done. His private life is just that - private - and if I had his wealth, you can be certain I would also find the best tax avoidance schemes available. And if any of you says you wouldn't do the same I'd suggest you are either liars or deluded!
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