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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 8:45:59 GMT
For what it’s worth, my wife is not a great football fan, but can’t stand the female football commentators/ pundits foisted on us by the media companies doing their best to satisfy the equality debate. What does that make her, a female hater? Yes, unfortunately. She should be cancelled for such views. |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 8:49:20 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website Why aren't Her Game Too partnered with the club? |
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2023 8:51:34 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website But if there are female fans who apparently don’t feel comfortable at football because “things like this” then why is that? The media knew exactly what they were doing with their provocative headlines yesterday - based solely on the headline I can see why some female football fans might be angry but if they read the full transcript of what Keegan said they’d very likely have taken it very differently. Same on social media and forums like this - all sorts of over the top inflammatory comments which if read without looking into the Keegan comments paint a picture of Keegan and then Barton having committed some form of heinous hate crime. |
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 6, 2023 8:52:44 GMT
So you don’t work in business, I respect that, you don’t get it. Sponsors and advertisers are nothing to do with fans and you and your Father. Just because you don’t take offence, it doesn’t mean Kelly doesn’t, or HGT pulling away from being a partner to the club. The new family relocated to Bristol from say Herts, Cumbria, who want to take their children to games locally. I know 5 Gasheads who don’t go because of him, that’s ok though, you have thick skin. "So you don’t work in business, I respect that, you don’t get it." A little patronizing there. Are you saying that if someone hasn't experience of something they don't have a valid opinion to share as they don't get it? hmmmm. interesting in the context of what we are discussing. You're comment is actually pretty much the same as Kevin Keegan's. So you don't mind offending me. You want to be careful of your brand awareness there. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 8:54:47 GMT
For what it’s worth, my wife is not a great football fan, but can’t stand the female football commentators/ pundits foisted on us by the media companies doing their best to satisfy the equality debate. What does that make her, a female hater? Yes, unfortunately. She should be cancelled for such views. Grounds for divorce? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 9:02:47 GMT
All these claims about I know people are not going because of JB.
The highest number of season tickets for many a year, crowds as good as they been for many years and because of capacity people on here complaining they can’t get tickets.
We would have crowds of 15k plus if JB got sacked by the sound of it, or so the haters would say.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 9:02:47 GMT
I have no brand awareness towards you, you don’t buy from me, you are not a customer or potential one so let’s clear that up! Sorry I assumed, I shouldn’t assume but I did because you said Rovers isn’t a brand, and surely if you are in business or not, you realise we have a brand identity? They mention the NBA in this article www.euronews.com/2023/06/01/meet-the-football-clubs-growing-their-brand-through-the-mediaI print programmes for 8 football clubs, I was with the Commercial Director Alex Harris Saturday as match ball sponsor against the Rovers, if you asked him if his club was brand and had brand awareness, I know what he would say! With your opinion he’d be out of work, he sells on the brand that is the Posh. I’m astonished by your ignorance to brand awareness in football and thinking it’s just a football club, Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands! |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 6, 2023 9:08:57 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website But if there are female fans who apparently don’t feel comfortable at football because “things like this” then why is that? The media knew exactly what they were doing with their provocative headlines yesterday - based solely on the headline I can see why some female football fans might be angry but if they read the full transcript of what Keegan said they’d very likely have taken it very differently. Same on social media and forums like this - all sorts of over the top inflammatory comments which if read without looking into the Keegan comments paint a picture of Keegan and then Barton having committed some form of heinous hate crime. I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 6, 2023 9:10:57 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website Why aren't Her Game Too partnered with the club? I don't know if they are or aren't anymore, but it was pointed out BRFC are not on the list of partnered clubs on their website www.hergametoo.co.uk/pro-partnerships |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 9:14:41 GMT
I have no brand awareness towards you, you don’t buy from me, you are not a customer or potential one so let’s clear that up! Sorry I assumed, I shouldn’t assume but I did because you said Rovers isn’t a brand, and surely if you are in business or not, you realise we have a brand identity? They mention the NBA in this article www.euronews.com/2023/06/01/meet-the-football-clubs-growing-their-brand-through-the-mediaI print programmes for 8 football clubs, I was with the Commercial Director Alex Harris Saturday as match ball sponsor against the Rovers, if you asked him if his club was brand and had brand awareness, I know what he would say! With your opinion he’d be out of work, he sells on the brand that is the Posh. I’m astonished by your ignorance to brand awareness in football and thinking it’s just a football club, Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands! in this climate emergency you boast of using printed matter as a business?these 8 clubs you supply to need to look at the carbon footprint they are destroying for our children's future. I hope their fanbase is aware what damage they are doing |
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Post by bidefordgas on Oct 6, 2023 9:15:08 GMT
But if there are female fans who apparently don’t feel comfortable at football because “things like this” then why is that? The media knew exactly what they were doing with their provocative headlines yesterday - based solely on the headline I can see why some female football fans might be angry but if they read the full transcript of what Keegan said they’d very likely have taken it very differently. Same on social media and forums like this - all sorts of over the top inflammatory comments which if read without looking into the Keegan comments paint a picture of Keegan and then Barton having committed some form of heinous hate crime. I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table Trouble is when the likes of Alex Scott on football focus regularly has two females to one male on football focus,it’s no wonder why the viewing figures have suddenly disappeared. From the outside it looks like a takeover and the total lack of Championship and lower league football, has been replaced with the men’s and women’s Premier leagues. |
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Post by perryfenwick on Oct 6, 2023 9:16:10 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website Not to mention the shocking state of female facilities at the Mem, which female fans point out to Tom every other week and he tweets out his promises to fix them, which never actually happens. |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 6, 2023 9:22:02 GMT
I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table Trouble is when the likes of Alex Scott on football focus regularly has two females to one male on football focus,it’s no wonder why the viewing figures have suddenly disappeared. From the outside it looks like a takeover and the total lack of Championship and lower league football, has been replaced with the men’s and women’s Premier leagues. I think their needs to be better balance in some areas, and perhaps there are time where female voices are over pushed, but that is another issue |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 9:25:00 GMT
I have no brand awareness towards you, you don’t buy from me, you are not a customer or potential one so let’s clear that up! Sorry I assumed, I shouldn’t assume but I did because you said Rovers isn’t a brand, and surely if you are in business or not, you realise we have a brand identity? They mention the NBA in this article www.euronews.com/2023/06/01/meet-the-football-clubs-growing-their-brand-through-the-mediaI print programmes for 8 football clubs, I was with the Commercial Director Alex Harris Saturday as match ball sponsor against the Rovers, if you asked him if his club was brand and had brand awareness, I know what he would say! With your opinion he’d be out of work, he sells on the brand that is the Posh. I’m astonished by your ignorance to brand awareness in football and thinking it’s just a football club, Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands! in this climate emergency you boast of using printed matter as a business?these 8 clubs you supply to need to look at the carbon footprint they are destroying for our children's future. I hope their fanbase is aware what damage they are doing We have 192 people at our factory and we have been trading for over 50 years. We pride ourselves on being a major local employer, paper is recyclable, carbon offset our paper, vegetable based inks, 18% of our power comes from solar energy. Our paper sourced is FSC or PEFC accredited, we take and consider the environment very much and we have been recognised for this by Suffolk County Council. We are recognising the younger generations as well, we have a fantastic cadet and apprenticeship offering in employment. I am proud of the business I represent, print isn’t dead and long may it continue as an industry, certainly the 192 people employ hope this. |
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2023 9:25:30 GMT
It's Joey, Kevin and others opinion. I don't happen to agree and I think it just shows up the macho BS and fragile ego's that proliferate the men's games from the pitch to the terraces among certain people The saddest thing is there are female fans that don't feel comfortable for their own reasons when males at the top say things like this, because it filters down. Football has progressed in may areas in terms on inclusivity over the years, but in recent years I actually feel it has gone backwards, whether it's racism, sexism, homophobia etc Her Game Too were mocked when they were set up. Mocked because people didn't think it was needed, which in it's self just highlighted why they became into existence and now (perhaps someone can clarify) Her Game Too aren't even partnered with the club 2 of the founder members support judging by their website Not to mention the shocking state of female facilities at the Mem, which female fans point out to Tom every other week and he tweets out his promises to fix them, which never actually happens. The facilities at the Mem are appalling for everyone. By the time we get a new stadium it will probably be law that toilets should be gender neutral - we’ve already got that in my workplace after a relocation to new premises. The ladies were rightly very annoyed by this “progressive” measure !!! |
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2023 9:29:49 GMT
But if there are female fans who apparently don’t feel comfortable at football because “things like this” then why is that? The media knew exactly what they were doing with their provocative headlines yesterday - based solely on the headline I can see why some female football fans might be angry but if they read the full transcript of what Keegan said they’d very likely have taken it very differently. Same on social media and forums like this - all sorts of over the top inflammatory comments which if read without looking into the Keegan comments paint a picture of Keegan and then Barton having committed some form of heinous hate crime. I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table Personally I like an expert pundit for half-time and full time analysis and there is little point in having these if they haven’t played at the same level as the game which is being shown - same for all sports. If we do away with the expert pundit what do we replace it with? Fans - god not the mouthy YouTube influencers or patronising journalists for that matter! |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 6, 2023 9:31:46 GMT
But if there are female fans who apparently don’t feel comfortable at football because “things like this” then why is that? The media knew exactly what they were doing with their provocative headlines yesterday - based solely on the headline I can see why some female football fans might be angry but if they read the full transcript of what Keegan said they’d very likely have taken it very differently. Same on social media and forums like this - all sorts of over the top inflammatory comments which if read without looking into the Keegan comments paint a picture of Keegan and then Barton having committed some form of heinous hate crime. I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table I'm all for female commentators and pundits, a breath of fresh air tbh , although the worst ive heard of late have been female. It's like every media outlet has to fill their quota for fear of being labelled sexist, regardless of their actual quality doing the job - Very rare you get one that isn't easy on the eye too.....(where is the female pundit equivalent of Gary Neville?) I have friends who just don't like the (in the main) higher pitch of their voices while watching games. Understandable to a point as it's a big change given women have never been anywhere near commentary positions until fairly recently. That takes time to get used to especially for the oldies. As I said im all for it as long as they are there on merit rather than looks or to fill quotas. Even women footballers are starting to use their looks on and off the pitch. Alisha Lehmann for example...model or footballer?..who knows |
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 9:38:58 GMT
"You can please some of the people all of the time and you can please all of the people some of the time." If you spend your whole life trying not to offend anyone then you're going to be pretty exhausted and also not ever say anything of any interest. You will always offend someone at some point. Yes, plus eventually trip over your own hypocrisy or fall behind changing times. Some older people are very confused these days because what what right and proper 40 years ago is offensive today. You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯 "You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯" Other myths are available 🫢😂 |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 9:43:34 GMT
Yes, plus eventually trip over your own hypocrisy or fall behind changing times. Some older people are very confused these days because what what right and proper 40 years ago is offensive today. You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯 "You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯" Other myths are available 🫢😂 Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. |
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