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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 9:45:59 GMT
Not to mention the shocking state of female facilities at the Mem, which female fans point out to Tom every other week and he tweets out his promises to fix them, which never actually happens. The facilities at the Mem are appalling for everyone. By the time we get a new stadium it will probably be law that toilets should be gender neutral - we’ve already got that in my workplace after a relocation to new premises. The ladies were rightly very annoyed by this “progressive” measure !!! Wonder what JB thinks of gender neutral toilets. If he'd said what you just did, he'd bet bashed for sure. We've won a few games lately so that's dried up the complaints for a while 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 10:00:22 GMT
I mean there are other 'issues' with Barton that some female fans are uncomfortable with (and we don't need to go into those) I agree the headlines obviously go for the shock value. I read the transcript and in no way do I feel KK was trying to completely rubbish women, but at the same time as I say I do feel like it highlights how some people can't comprehend that others may have something to add, because they haven't played X. I mean take the mens game and male players and forget women a second. We have seen and heard that the top players, don't always make the best managers or pundits. We hear how much faster the games has gotten, so what does a player from the 70's or 80's know about football in 2023. If people want to pick holes in women pundits/commentators, you can easily pick holes just looking at male players themselves personally I think it's great to have different voices and different viewpoints for all sports, rather than the same tired old boys club you often get/used to get when they got their feet under the pundit table I'm all for female commentators and pundits, a breath of fresh air tbh , although the worst ive heard of late have been female. It's like every media outlet has to fill their quota for fear of being labelled sexist, regardless of their actual quality doing the job - Very rare you get one that isn't easy on the eye too.....(where is the female pundit equivalent of Gary Neville?) I have friends who just don't like the (in the main) higher pitch of their voices while watching games. Understandable to a point as it's a big change given women have never been anywhere near commentary positions until fairly recently. That takes time to get used to especially for the oldies. As I said im all for it as long as they are there on merit rather than looks or to fill quotas. Even women footballers are starting to use their looks on and off the pitch. Alisha Lehmann for example...model or footballer?..who knows Male footballers have been doing your last sentence for decades. Why does it matter that women are as well?
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Post by oldie on Oct 6, 2023 10:08:06 GMT
"You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯" Other myths are available 🫢😂 Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 6, 2023 10:15:46 GMT
I'm all for female commentators and pundits, a breath of fresh air tbh , although the worst ive heard of late have been female. It's like every media outlet has to fill their quota for fear of being labelled sexist, regardless of their actual quality doing the job - Very rare you get one that isn't easy on the eye too.....(where is the female pundit equivalent of Gary Neville?) I have friends who just don't like the (in the main) higher pitch of their voices while watching games. Understandable to a point as it's a big change given women have never been anywhere near commentary positions until fairly recently. That takes time to get used to especially for the oldies. As I said im all for it as long as they are there on merit rather than looks or to fill quotas. Even women footballers are starting to use their looks on and off the pitch. Alisha Lehmann for example...model or footballer?..who knows Male footballers have been doing your last sentence for decades. Why does it matter that women are as well? Doesnt bother me, just seems there is more focus on that than the actual football
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 10:18:27 GMT
Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Were you calling me a liar?
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Post by eric on Oct 6, 2023 10:20:31 GMT
"You can compliment a colleague and get sacked for serial harassment these days. 🤯" Other myths are available 🫢😂 Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Anything is possible these days. I saw earlier this week that a court ordered an employer to pay an employee absent on long term sick leave £130k because he was upset at being left out of a WhatsApp group 🙄
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Post by perryfenwick on Oct 6, 2023 10:24:56 GMT
The facilities at the Mem are appalling for everyone. By the time we get a new stadium it will probably be law that toilets should be gender neutral - we’ve already got that in my workplace after a relocation to new premises. The ladies were rightly very annoyed by this “progressive” measure !!! Wonder what JB thinks of gender neutral toilets. If he'd said what you just did, he'd bet bashed for sure. We've won a few games lately so that's dried up the complaints for a while 🤣 Well he usually comes out with idiotic stuff for one of three reasons: after a few wins, because he feels untouchable, after a few losses, as a distraction, or just because nobody's given him any attention for five minutes. The two constants are criticism of him as a person - which doesn't dry up based on results - and the same people every time lining up to kiss his feet and defend him.
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 6, 2023 10:28:15 GMT
Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Anything is possible these days. I saw earlier this week that a court ordered an employer to pay an employee absent on long term sick leave £130k because he was upset at being left out of a WhatsApp group 🙄 That's not the story though, it was awarded for the employers mishandling of his health. The WhatsApp element was just an additional piece of evidence.
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 6, 2023 10:29:05 GMT
Wonder what JB thinks of gender neutral toilets. If he'd said what you just did, he'd bet bashed for sure. We've won a few games lately so that's dried up the complaints for a while 🤣 Well he usually comes out with idiotic stuff for one of three reasons: after a few wins, because he feels untouchable, after a few losses, as a distraction, or just because nobody's given him any attention for five minutes. The two constants are criticism of him as a person - which doesn't dry up based on results - and the same people every time lining up to kiss his feet and defend him. Ok, so what about his tweet on Keegans opinion? Is that worthy of all this?
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Post by yattongas on Oct 6, 2023 10:38:51 GMT
Assuming you acknowledge the typo..what are you saying? I'm a liar? Or, are you looking for the daily trolldie fix? Yeah, probably that. Carry on. Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Brand damage ? This could be what for the club ….. crowds going down? No evidence Failure to attract decent players to the club ? No evidence Sponsors pulling out from the club ? No evidence Explain to me what this brand damage is and point it out to me , because I can’t see any.
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 6, 2023 10:51:52 GMT
Anything is possible these days. I saw earlier this week that a court ordered an employer to pay an employee absent on long term sick leave £130k because he was upset at being left out of a WhatsApp group 🙄 That's not the story though, it was awarded for the employers mishandling of his health. The WhatsApp element was just an additional piece of evidence. World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 10:56:42 GMT
Male footballers have been doing your last sentence for decades. Why does it matter that women are as well? Doesnt bother me, just seems there is more focus on that than the actual football More focus from you? I’d never noticed her as anything other than a footballer.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 6, 2023 11:04:35 GMT
Doesnt bother me, just seems there is more focus on that than the actual football More focus from you? I’d never noticed her as anything other than a footballer. Nope, just what comes up on my social media timeline. Maybe that's more the media outlets sexualising it, but I hardly ever see any football clips. It feels like ive seen her arse 500 times yet dont even know if she is a decent footballer or not
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 6, 2023 11:16:19 GMT
That's not the story though, it was awarded for the employers mishandling of his health. The WhatsApp element was just an additional piece of evidence. World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition. "Male menopause, or andropause as it's also known, occurs when a man’s testosterone levels fall, resulting in symptoms such as fatigue, weight gain, depression, sexual health problems and mood changes. According to Dr Alexis Missick, a GP working with the online pharmaceutical company UK Meds, the majority of men who are experiencing male menopause will also experience low libido and may not be able to maintain a strong erection." Sounds like marriage, then. 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2023 11:17:34 GMT
Your line of defense is tedious. In general though my personal opinion is that we can all get dragged down into argument about a single, relatively inconsequential, incident. The story is the build up of evidence over a timeline. Who gives a toss about Barton's opinion of the "man boy" Keegan's opinions? But, as the main public representative of our club, he has a responsibility. This responsibility he fails dramatically on the PR front. So far over the last week we have had the public dressing down of one of our top players and now agreeing in public with a view on women in the media which was almost certain to draw negative comments. All totally unnecessary and puts the club in a bad light. Potential brand damage as Roadman points out. The truth is, I believe, that damage has already occurred given the events of the last couple of years. The truth is the club has hired a narcissist whose opinions of his own intelligence bear no relationship to his actual intelligence. So the club have employed this person on the gamble he will get us into the championship. We shall see whether that gamble plays out. Certainly the squad he has put together makes it a distinct possibility IMO, ironically it may well be his own stupid actions and idiosyncratic tactics and team set up that may derail that, not the quality of the players. Brand damage ? This could be what for the club ….. cr7owds going down? No evidence Failure to attract decent players to the club ? No evidence Sponsors pulling out from the club ? No evidence Explain to me what this brand damage is and point it out to me , because I can’t see any. even the majority of the tiny group that have nothing but hate in their blood still roll up through the turnstile in case they miss out.think our brand is anything but damaged.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 6, 2023 11:17:53 GMT
World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition. "Male menopause, or andropause as it's also known, occurs when a man’s testosterone levels fall, resulting in symptoms such as fatigue, weight gain, depression, sexual health problems and mood changes. According to Dr Alexis Missick, a GP working with the online pharmaceutical company UK Meds, the majority of men who are experiencing male menopause will also experience low libido and may not be able to maintain a strong erection." Sounds like marriage, then. 🤔 Yep all the above happens when that ring is on the finger, from both sides!
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 6, 2023 11:23:59 GMT
I have no brand awareness towards you, you don’t buy from me, you are not a customer or potential one so let’s clear that up! Sorry I assumed, I shouldn’t assume but I did because you said Rovers isn’t a brand, and surely if you are in business or not, you realise we have a brand identity? They mention the NBA in this article www.euronews.com/2023/06/01/meet-the-football-clubs-growing-their-brand-through-the-mediaI print programmes for 8 football clubs, I was with the Commercial Director Alex Harris Saturday as match ball sponsor against the Rovers, if you asked him if his club was brand and had brand awareness, I know what he would say! With your opinion he’d be out of work, he sells on the brand that is the Posh. I’m astonished by your ignorance to brand awareness in football and thinking it’s just a football club, Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands! I just noticed your username. As someone who seems so aware of brand, why call yourself 'Roadman'. You've got to be on a wind up. "Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands!" That says it all there. Even if I wasn't a rovers fan I would hate to support a club that had become that. A corporate entity. Are you sure you're a Gashead?
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Post by gulfofaden on Oct 6, 2023 11:30:00 GMT
That's not the story though, it was awarded for the employers mishandling of his health. The WhatsApp element was just an additional piece of evidence. World's gone mad ,saw this week that an NHS Trust is giving men 12 months paid leave if they complain of Andropause( male menopause ffs),it's not even a recognised medical condition. Yet you can’t get an appointment with a GP, but of course it’s “the Tories” at fault apparently.
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Post by RD on Oct 6, 2023 11:30:36 GMT
I have no brand awareness towards you, you don’t buy from me, you are not a customer or potential one so let’s clear that up! Sorry I assumed, I shouldn’t assume but I did because you said Rovers isn’t a brand, and surely if you are in business or not, you realise we have a brand identity? They mention the NBA in this article www.euronews.com/2023/06/01/meet-the-football-clubs-growing-their-brand-through-the-mediaI print programmes for 8 football clubs, I was with the Commercial Director Alex Harris Saturday as match ball sponsor against the Rovers, if you asked him if his club was brand and had brand awareness, I know what he would say! With your opinion he’d be out of work, he sells on the brand that is the Posh. I’m astonished by your ignorance to brand awareness in football and thinking it’s just a football club, Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands! I just noticed your username. As someone who seems so aware of brand, why call yourself 'Roadman'. You've got to be on a wind up. "Bristol Sport is a brand above all brands!" That says it all there. Even if I wasn't a rovers fan I would hate to support a club that had become that. A corporate entity. Are you sure you're a Gashead? His username used to be a series of road names - people therefore referred to him as "road man" for simplicity, hence the new username was born. I can assure you, he is a massive Rovers fan.
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 6, 2023 11:32:54 GMT
in this climate emergency you boast of using printed matter as a business?these 8 clubs you supply to need to look at the carbon footprint they are destroying for our children's future. I hope their fanbase is aware what damage they are doing We have 192 people at our factory and we have been trading for over 50 years. We pride ourselves on being a major local employer, paper is recyclable, carbon offset our paper, vegetable based inks, 18% of our power comes from solar energy. Our paper sourced is FSC or PEFC accredited, we take and consider the environment very much and we have been recognised for this by Suffolk County Council. We are recognising the younger generations as well, we have a fantastic cadet and apprenticeship offering in employment. I am proud of the business I represent, print isn’t dead and long may it continue as an industry, certainly the 192 people employ hope this. Are you writing out your CV or something. You seem very full of yourself and how great you are.
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